EPTedit: dunno what the reviewers are talking about, I have the latest version and mine does not have ads, maybe it's a us only thing?
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
edit: dunno what the reviewers are talking about, I have the latest version and mine does not have ads, maybe it's a us only thing? | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On January 27 2012 17:59 Drowsy wrote: Any other oly lifters get some sick pain in their forearms from snatching? Holding the overhead position with a wide grip seems to have a strange effect on my forearms. For periods of 4-6 weeks they'll feel excruciating, then abruptly go away for 2 months and come back for another month. It doesn't happen at all cleaning or jerking. It's not wrist pain either, it's much lower on the forearm. NSAID+Ice doesn't have too much effectiveness either. could it be from hook gripping? try straps to see if the pain goes away. @ funkie my pull is terrible. its the weakest part of my lifting. also i was kidding about that ab video. i just like posting the random exercises that i can find the chinese national team doing. http://usoca.sportzcast.tv/(S(4ikfnzsdqspl23isi22r4sqh))/sportzcastplayer.aspx live webcast junior usa nationals! | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On January 27 2012 21:25 AoN.DimSum wrote: could it be from hook gripping? try straps to see if the pain goes away. @ funkie my pull is terrible. its the weakest part of my lifting. also i was kidding about that ab video. i just like posting the random exercises that i can find the chinese national team doing. http://usoca.sportzcast.tv/(S(4ikfnzsdqspl23isi22r4sqh))/sportzcastplayer.aspx live webcast junior usa nationals! No it's definitely not from the grip/pull part. Straps/no straps doesn't affect it at all. If I do drop snatches, for instance, it still hurts pretty badly, and I feel it most acutely in the actual catch and not the pull. Also 0 pain from clean, jerk, or CGOHS. | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On January 27 2012 21:25 AoN.DimSum wrote: could it be from hook gripping? try straps to see if the pain goes away. @ funkie my pull is terrible. its the weakest part of my lifting. also i was kidding about that ab video. i just like posting the random exercises that i can find the chinese national team doing. http://usoca.sportzcast.tv/(S(4ikfnzsdqspl23isi22r4sqh))/sportzcastplayer.aspx live webcast junior usa nationals! is that under 18? or 15? | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Lol there's no way those guys are under 15... Seems like U18-19 | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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rEiGN~
369 Posts
On January 28 2012 05:49 FiWiFaKi wrote: Yesterday I was doing Power cleans for the first time in my life... I feel so weak compared to these people. I did 95lbs, 115lbs... and barely managed to do 135lbs, and utterly failed at 155lbs, hard to keep your back straight when you do that fast jerking motion. I could only press 115lb though =/ I wouldn't fuck around with heavy weights if it's your first time power cleaning. Focus on learning the proper form. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:11 rEiGN~ wrote: I wouldn't fuck around with heavy weights if it's your first time power cleaning. Focus on learning the proper form. The form seemed pretty natural for me, I'm leaving for the Dominican today, but once I get back (they have a gym there ^^) I think I'll post in the oly thread for a form check. I'm still hesitant to squat down a lot to catch it, since my flexibility really lacks in my arms, so I have to keep my elbows low, and also my hamstrings are definitely not flexible enough to do a deep front squat either. I'm just hoping I can get that flexibility through doing it more. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On January 28 2012 07:16 FiWiFaKi wrote: The form seemed pretty natural for me, I'm leaving for the Dominican today, but once I get back (they have a gym there ^^) I think I'll post in the oly thread for a form check. I'm still hesitant to squat down a lot to catch it, since my flexibility really lacks in my arms, so I have to keep my elbows low, and also my hamstrings are definitely not flexible enough to do a deep front squat either. I'm just hoping I can get that flexibility through doing it more. The general form is quite a natural movement, as long as you remember not to pull with your arms, but rather from your shoulders. The specifics however, are impossibly hard to master and even olympic record holders can make improvements. That's what makes the oly lifts so much fun. week 1 day 3 of smolov today. First 7x5 workout - was pretty hard, but I finished it without any real complaints, went off and did a little bit of benching, and then left the gym. It was climbing the 16 flights of stairs (10 from gym to dorm, then my room is on the 6th floor) afterwards to get back that KILLED me, because it was just enough break for my glutes and quads to become sore/tender. At least I know I'm squatting with the right muscles though, not pulling it up with my lower back anymore! initiation party tonight, 10x3 tomorrow. Going to have to hold myself back if I want to finish these sets, but the weight goal is important enough to me that I think I can manage. | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:19 Zafrumi wrote: I dont follow; why wouldnt it be the right way? because it made you stronger in a few months than some guy in three years? I think he's questioning more if strength is really his goal. Deadlifts are hard, if you can get an excellent physique by never lifting more than 120kg, why bother with it? I think the answer is that it took that dude three years. There are faster ways - and lifting bigger weights is one of them. You don't have to stay on a strength routine forever, but it's certainly the right way to get down the fundamentals - compound lifts, listen to your body, diet and recovery, etc. etc. If your end goals aren't strength, switch later, but SS at the beginning (hence the "starting") will get you where your going easier than you would do otherwise. On a random note: Did blood testing in my physiology lab today. Turns out I have ~11% more red cell density in my blood than the top of the "average" range for males my age. (avg 40-54%, I have 64.8% red cells by volume) tested it twice because the measure seemed so off. Estimated to have just over 1 kg of red blood cells by weight in my body, and almost 1400mL of oxygen carrying capacity at any given time. BRB switching to endurance sports. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:11 Advocado wrote: A guy came up and gave me some critique on the fact that I was bending my back on the deadlift.He then proceeded to be amazed by the fact that my max was deadlift 120 kg. He said 120 kg was at his max deadlift and he'd been lifting three years. Excellent physique and now Im wondering if the Starting Strength is the correct way. Decide on your goals. I do think doing heavy compound lifts is really good up until a certain point. You need you muscles to work together nicely, and give you that structure, which SS and heavy compound lifts do. But if you're going for aesthetics, yes your core will start to get bigger, your legs will be pretty massive compared to the guys in the magazines, your neck will be wide, etc. That said, even if you're going after a "good physique" you want to do those lifts until (arbitrary numbers): 100kg bench, 120kg squat, 150kg dead-lift. And that's pretty close to what a SS program over 4 month achieves for someone in 4 months, generally their squat will be a higher because it's stressed there so much. + Show Spoiler [Extreme Powerlifter Bodies] + ![[image loading]](http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2008/08-122-training/image002.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding/1275d1272635780-matt-kroc-goes-bodybuilding-2mdkwi9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.wannabebig.com/wp-content/themes/mimboPro_single/images/article_images/training/marius.jpg) Some people want that, being able to lift crazy weights and like looking like that, but if you're going more after: + Show Spoiler [Bodybuilding Bodies] + ![[image loading]](http://www.vincesteven.com/IMG/jpg_Greg_Plitt_120.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.musclebuildingvault.com/wp-content/uploads/15_5_orig.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.fitnessihub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Workout-Rules-For-The-Skinny-Body.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cw3nwHF2m1g/SXsWOk1hMWI/AAAAAAAAL38/9ZC-RXbkJk8/s400/5584w.jpg) You need to reach a certain point in strength before you can reach any kind of physique, and once you become an intermediate, you can adjust your program towards building size, definition, specific muscles etc if that's what you're after. SS of course isn't the only way, but as much as I hate to say it, it is one of the best ways to give your body that structure. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
BP: Doesn't matter. I hate squats, didnt fail anything though. 1 more day of torture tomorrow. Fuck you Mr. Smolov. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
 .Video time! :D + Show Spoiler [Front Squat] + + Show Spoiler [Power Clean] + + Show Spoiler [Clean & Jerk] + evaluate form and yes form form form!, thanks beforehand | ||
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decafchicken
United States20108 Posts
Managed to snatch 110 and cj 135, i'm getting under the bar so much faster that i hardly need to pull the bar and its letting me get decent lifts on shitty days :D | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17733 Posts
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
Also, I peaked at 160lb bench on 5x5 so if I peak around the same weight on 3x5 does that mean I have muscle imbalances somewhere like shoulders or triceps for example? Are supplement exercises acceptable for the program or will it add too much stress to the muscles and not enough recovery? | ||
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