Went to the "bro gym" down near frat row today, fprgotthey only have a smith machine, no rack. did cleans instead of squats for giggles. lots of staring.
Set a pr, 165 lbs. Didnt get my shoulders out/elbows up in time, and dropped 175 on ky knee. kept working out. so many people staring.
On September 11 2012 07:06 Keniji wrote: I just got into climbing (only indoor atm, not that many places to climb outdoor where I live, well, indoor is just convenient right now) but holy shit it's so much fun, and you notice like every single muscle in your body (even those you didn't knew existed) after it. Considering I was never much into going in fitness studios and lifting weights (just felt more like work to me, dunno) it's a nice way to build up some strenghts too I guess.
Right now it feels like the perfect sport for me, so happy. Also if you finally finish a route best feeling ever.
Climbing is excellent. There's another advantage to indoor, that you may not have considered. Shoes and harness can be rented some places, and even if you buy them, that's nothing compared to cams, quickdraws, rope, and so forth.
Fuck that's an expensive hobby, but yeah, it's a blast.
I assume for liability reasons, you have to sign a waiver at minimum, and possibly sit through some safety type shit? If not, you should seriously look into learning that shit for yourself. My friend's wife broke her legs due to a minor fuckup in the remembering to tie in department.
oh yea, true. Only thing I really need are shoes, a belt and an atc (or somethig similiar) so it's some investment, but reasonable. All the shit you need for outdoor is probably a whole other level. Right now I have borrowed the old stuff from a friend but I eventually have to buy my own.
I mean the safety stuff isn't really hard to do, I obv. got an explanation the first time I did it (luckily one of my friends is climbing for a while now and got it for free), and as long as your double check with your partner (like the only real danger is that you have it down as an automatism and somehow fuck it up) it should be fine.
Pretty much. And yeah. You definitely don't want to ever treat any of it as automatic. Just because you have the skillset down doesn't mean you should not think about it, screwing up is kinda dangerous.
I personally would never use second hand stuff outside of a close friend (sounds like the case with you) just due to the dangers of not knowing how well it's been treated.
I actually had it decent in Colorado when I first took it up, all the places I was climbing at had some bolted routes with anchor points at the top, so I didn't have to invest in the worst of it, but I still needed the draws and rope, which isn't cheap.
Start getting nuts and cams and the price skyrockets.
Allowed to use chalk at the place you go? Really handy.
If you ever get the chance for outdoor, though, you definitely need to try it. Especially if you can do sandstone. Climbing a mostly smooth sandstone route with an ascent that's mostly smearing and friction with tiny cracks is insane. When I get back from TKD I'll try and find some of my old pics.
The stuff I have isn't even that old and he's still using it himself sometimes, so I totally trust him with that.
chalk is allowed, I can't even imagine doing it without, so slippery.
If I ever get the chance doing it outdoor I'll definitely try it. Must be amazing.
You can also look for bouldering: No equipment at all needed! It's becoming somewhat of a trend in Germany I think so there might be a place in your area.
On September 11 2012 07:06 Keniji wrote: I just got into climbing (only indoor atm, not that many places to climb outdoor where I live, well, indoor is just convenient right now) but holy shit it's so much fun, and you notice like every single muscle in your body (even those you didn't knew existed) after it. Considering I was never much into going in fitness studios and lifting weights (just felt more like work to me, dunno) it's a nice way to build up some strenghts too I guess.
Right now it feels like the perfect sport for me, so happy. Also if you finally finish a route best feeling ever.
Climbing is excellent. There's another advantage to indoor, that you may not have considered. Shoes and harness can be rented some places, and even if you buy them, that's nothing compared to cams, quickdraws, rope, and so forth.
Fuck that's an expensive hobby, but yeah, it's a blast.
I assume for liability reasons, you have to sign a waiver at minimum, and possibly sit through some safety type shit? If not, you should seriously look into learning that shit for yourself. My friend's wife broke her legs due to a minor fuckup in the remembering to tie in department.
oh yea, true. Only thing I really need are shoes, a belt and an atc (or somethig similiar) so it's some investment, but reasonable. All the shit you need for outdoor is probably a whole other level. Right now I have borrowed the old stuff from a friend but I eventually have to buy my own.
I mean the safety stuff isn't really hard to do, I obv. got an explanation the first time I did it (luckily one of my friends is climbing for a while now and got it for free), and as long as your double check with your partner (like the only real danger is that you have it down as an automatism and somehow fuck it up) it should be fine.
Pretty much. And yeah. You definitely don't want to ever treat any of it as automatic. Just because you have the skillset down doesn't mean you should not think about it, screwing up is kinda dangerous.
I personally would never use second hand stuff outside of a close friend (sounds like the case with you) just due to the dangers of not knowing how well it's been treated.
I actually had it decent in Colorado when I first took it up, all the places I was climbing at had some bolted routes with anchor points at the top, so I didn't have to invest in the worst of it, but I still needed the draws and rope, which isn't cheap.
Start getting nuts and cams and the price skyrockets.
Allowed to use chalk at the place you go? Really handy.
If you ever get the chance for outdoor, though, you definitely need to try it. Especially if you can do sandstone. Climbing a mostly smooth sandstone route with an ascent that's mostly smearing and friction with tiny cracks is insane. When I get back from TKD I'll try and find some of my old pics.
The stuff I have isn't even that old and he's still using it himself sometimes, so I totally trust him with that.
chalk is allowed, I can't even imagine doing it without, so slippery.
If I ever get the chance doing it outdoor I'll definitely try it. Must be amazing.
You can also look for bouldering: No equipment at all needed! It's becoming somewhat of a trend in Germany I think so there might be a place in your area.
Well, shoes and chalk still help, and some people use a pad to land on for trickier bouldering stuff.
Some stuff of me climbing with my friend at Red Rock Canyon near Colorado Springs. + Show Spoiler +
On September 11 2012 07:06 Keniji wrote: I just got into climbing (only indoor atm, not that many places to climb outdoor where I live, well, indoor is just convenient right now) but holy shit it's so much fun, and you notice like every single muscle in your body (even those you didn't knew existed) after it. Considering I was never much into going in fitness studios and lifting weights (just felt more like work to me, dunno) it's a nice way to build up some strenghts too I guess.
Right now it feels like the perfect sport for me, so happy. Also if you finally finish a route best feeling ever.
Climbing is excellent. There's another advantage to indoor, that you may not have considered. Shoes and harness can be rented some places, and even if you buy them, that's nothing compared to cams, quickdraws, rope, and so forth.
Fuck that's an expensive hobby, but yeah, it's a blast.
I assume for liability reasons, you have to sign a waiver at minimum, and possibly sit through some safety type shit? If not, you should seriously look into learning that shit for yourself. My friend's wife broke her legs due to a minor fuckup in the remembering to tie in department.
oh yea, true. Only thing I really need are shoes, a belt and an atc (or somethig similiar) so it's some investment, but reasonable. All the shit you need for outdoor is probably a whole other level. Right now I have borrowed the old stuff from a friend but I eventually have to buy my own.
I mean the safety stuff isn't really hard to do, I obv. got an explanation the first time I did it (luckily one of my friends is climbing for a while now and got it for free), and as long as your double check with your partner (like the only real danger is that you have it down as an automatism and somehow fuck it up) it should be fine.
Pretty much. And yeah. You definitely don't want to ever treat any of it as automatic. Just because you have the skillset down doesn't mean you should not think about it, screwing up is kinda dangerous.
I personally would never use second hand stuff outside of a close friend (sounds like the case with you) just due to the dangers of not knowing how well it's been treated.
I actually had it decent in Colorado when I first took it up, all the places I was climbing at had some bolted routes with anchor points at the top, so I didn't have to invest in the worst of it, but I still needed the draws and rope, which isn't cheap.
Start getting nuts and cams and the price skyrockets.
Allowed to use chalk at the place you go? Really handy.
If you ever get the chance for outdoor, though, you definitely need to try it. Especially if you can do sandstone. Climbing a mostly smooth sandstone route with an ascent that's mostly smearing and friction with tiny cracks is insane. When I get back from TKD I'll try and find some of my old pics.
The stuff I have isn't even that old and he's still using it himself sometimes, so I totally trust him with that.
chalk is allowed, I can't even imagine doing it without, so slippery.
If I ever get the chance doing it outdoor I'll definitely try it. Must be amazing.
You can also look for bouldering: No equipment at all needed! It's becoming somewhat of a trend in Germany I think so there might be a place in your area.
I've tried bouldering a couple times before with friends (who are more serious climbers) and DAMN is that some hard stuff. Seriously respect to anyone who can do that on a regular basis. Plus if you think deadlifts give you a firm handshake and calloused hands, try any sort of climbing and you'll be made aware of what those thigns really are.
On September 11 2012 03:03 Sneakyz wrote: This vid from Layne Norton just popped up on my facebook, it's pretty much about close-mindedness in diet/training. Considering all the shit that's been going on in this sub forum lately, I think you guys should watch this video. If feel like there's been a lot of the "this is good, everything else is shit" kind of attitude, which is something that really bothers me.
I agree with most people here who say they don't see it that way. What Norton is saying is that you need to consider other opinions objectively and keep an open mind, not that all other opinions are equal. In fact, he specifically mentions, as an example, how crossfit would be inappropriate for powerlifters or bodybuilders. That's what we do here. When someone comes in with a different opinion we say why we disagree in reasonable terms. However, if they provide solid evidence to back up their opinions, I don't think anyone here will give them shit. It's only when they fail to support their opinions with any evidence (which is usually the case) that we shoot them down, which is completely in line with keeping an open mind and the scientific method.
I also don't think we give anyone shit for doing what they want to do. Someone a while back decided to do some german volume training thing and everyone said they'd be very interested in seeing how it turns out. Generally, we let people do whatever they feel like. When people do get shot down is when they try to advise others to do something which is not supported by science. You're free to experiment on yourself, but when new members come here looking for guidance, we can't just let people post unsupported bullshit.
If you have some specific situations in which the TLHF forums were close-minded when presented with strong evidence I'd be interested in seeing it, because that's the opposite of my experience so far.
I won't mention names or anything like that but I responded to the GVT thing specifically because the first few posts were saying it was shit/bad idea. Another thing that come to mind are the "pussy pad" discussion some time ago, and more recently of course the stuff in the nutrition thread and cardio>all thing.
I don't wan't to single out people or anything like that, I just want people to keep an open mind, as long as there is a good reason/study/personal success behind whatever you should atleast consider it. But in general this forum is indeed pretty open minded.
While more openmindedness is never a bad thing, I don't really feel the same way. I personally responded in support of the GVT guy - I thought it was interesting to try an alternative training style, and I wondered how it would work out for him. There were a few more users who thought the same as I did, and a few more who figured that the whole point of SS/SL is to teach new liters form, so why not use that? (because that was his goal, and it's easier to progress on 45 or 75 reps over three days than 100 reps on a single day) which is still fine - discussions do not mean closeminedness, they mean that people have opinions and they want to share them.
The pussy pad, unless someone has a severe problem with their spine is a good way to get injured. Me saying that is me understanding (and taking classes on) biomechanics, not me being close minded. I'm not going to say you can't use it - but I am going to say that it's a bad idea, because that is a fact.
Basically, disagreements and discussions don't equate to close-mindedness. being open minded is considering something before you dismiss it, not agreeing with it just because i's new and different, and I think that our forum (or at least the "regulars") is pretty good about doing that.
On September 11 2012 16:17 Froadac wrote: SS is helping postu
sorry about double post. I'm on mobile app. SS has helped with posture more than a lot of the pt. I do know I need to strengthen upper traps and a corresponding muscle group which doesn't come to mind
Climbing is alot of fun, but unfortunately I have a fear of heights -_- It used to be just slight discomfort but the older I get I feel like the worse it gets, I can't even go on a skilift without getting angsty.
Climbing walls still OK though
Want?
On another note, the chest pains I've mentioned before are back. Twice in a row now I've woken up in the middle of the night having to stretch my chest, really screwing up my sleeping schedule. Gonna focus extra hard on posture for a while, and if that doesn't work I'm taking it to a chiropractor or something, it fucking sucks.
On September 11 2012 16:22 Osmoses wrote: Climbing is alot of fun, but unfortunately I have a fear of heights -_- It used to be just slight discomfort but the older I get I feel like the worse it gets, I can't even go on a skilift without getting angsty.
On another note, the chest pains I've mentioned before are back. Twice in a row now I've woken up in the middle of the night having to stretch my chest, really screwing up my sleeping schedule. Gonna focus extra hard on posture for a while, and if that doesn't work I'm taking it to a chiropractor or something, it fucking sucks.
That's pretty sexy. I'd love to have that.
It's weird, I'm like the opposite. I used to be completely terrified of heights, now it's mild. In my case, though, I think I get vertigo, and that's why the older and more confident I've gotten, the milder it is.
lucky me i don't have much problems with heights. The place i'm climbing at has a boulder wall aswell. Looks really sick what some of the people there can do. Right now I like "normal" climbing better but I will probably look into boulder again at some point.
On September 11 2012 03:03 Sneakyz wrote: This vid from Layne Norton just popped up on my facebook, it's pretty much about close-mindedness in diet/training. Considering all the shit that's been going on in this sub forum lately, I think you guys should watch this video. If feel like there's been a lot of the "this is good, everything else is shit" kind of attitude, which is something that really bothers me.
I agree with most people here who say they don't see it that way. What Norton is saying is that you need to consider other opinions objectively and keep an open mind, not that all other opinions are equal. In fact, he specifically mentions, as an example, how crossfit would be inappropriate for powerlifters or bodybuilders. That's what we do here. When someone comes in with a different opinion we say why we disagree in reasonable terms. However, if they provide solid evidence to back up their opinions, I don't think anyone here will give them shit. It's only when they fail to support their opinions with any evidence (which is usually the case) that we shoot them down, which is completely in line with keeping an open mind and the scientific method.
I also don't think we give anyone shit for doing what they want to do. Someone a while back decided to do some german volume training thing and everyone said they'd be very interested in seeing how it turns out. Generally, we let people do whatever they feel like. When people do get shot down is when they try to advise others to do something which is not supported by science. You're free to experiment on yourself, but when new members come here looking for guidance, we can't just let people post unsupported bullshit.
If you have some specific situations in which the TLHF forums were close-minded when presented with strong evidence I'd be interested in seeing it, because that's the opposite of my experience so far.
I won't mention names or anything like that but I responded to the GVT thing specifically because the first few posts were saying it was shit/bad idea. Another thing that come to mind are the "pussy pad" discussion some time ago, and more recently of course the stuff in the nutrition thread and cardio>all thing.
I don't wan't to single out people or anything like that, I just want people to keep an open mind, as long as there is a good reason/study/personal success behind whatever you should atleast consider it. But in general this forum is indeed pretty open minded.
While more openmindedness is never a bad thing, I don't really feel the same way. I personally responded in support of the GVT guy - I thought it was interesting to try an alternative training style, and I wondered how it would work out for him. There were a few more users who thought the same as I did, and a few more who figured that the whole point of SS/SL is to teach new liters form, so why not use that? (because that was his goal, and it's easier to progress on 45 or 75 reps over three days than 100 reps on a single day) which is still fine - discussions do not mean closeminedness, they mean that people have opinions and they want to share them.
The pussy pad, unless someone has a severe problem with their spine is a good way to get injured. Me saying that is me understanding (and taking classes on) biomechanics, not me being close minded. I'm not going to say you can't use it - but I am going to say that it's a bad idea, because that is a fact.
Basically, disagreements and discussions don't equate to close-mindedness. being open minded is considering something before you dismiss it, not agreeing with it just because i's new and different, and I think that our forum (or at least the "regulars") is pretty good about doing that.
Well said, that's pretty much exactly how I feel about it (including the comments on the pussy pad). I guess it depends on what you focus on. I'm sure there are some people who are closeminded and negative about everything, but I probably just ignore their posts (or at least don't remember them).
My steady tread towards the 160kg squat continues. Did 145kg 4RM last night with ease, so 150kg should happen on Sunday. Question is, how long will it take me to go from 150kg to 160kg.
On September 11 2012 03:03 Sneakyz wrote: This vid from Layne Norton just popped up on my facebook, it's pretty much about close-mindedness in diet/training. Considering all the shit that's been going on in this sub forum lately, I think you guys should watch this video. If feel like there's been a lot of the "this is good, everything else is shit" kind of attitude, which is something that really bothers me.
I agree with most people here who say they don't see it that way. What Norton is saying is that you need to consider other opinions objectively and keep an open mind, not that all other opinions are equal. In fact, he specifically mentions, as an example, how crossfit would be inappropriate for powerlifters or bodybuilders. That's what we do here. When someone comes in with a different opinion we say why we disagree in reasonable terms. However, if they provide solid evidence to back up their opinions, I don't think anyone here will give them shit. It's only when they fail to support their opinions with any evidence (which is usually the case) that we shoot them down, which is completely in line with keeping an open mind and the scientific method.
I also don't think we give anyone shit for doing what they want to do. Someone a while back decided to do some german volume training thing and everyone said they'd be very interested in seeing how it turns out. Generally, we let people do whatever they feel like. When people do get shot down is when they try to advise others to do something which is not supported by science. You're free to experiment on yourself, but when new members come here looking for guidance, we can't just let people post unsupported bullshit.
If you have some specific situations in which the TLHF forums were close-minded when presented with strong evidence I'd be interested in seeing it, because that's the opposite of my experience so far.
I won't mention names or anything like that but I responded to the GVT thing specifically because the first few posts were saying it was shit/bad idea. Another thing that come to mind are the "pussy pad" discussion some time ago, and more recently of course the stuff in the nutrition thread and cardio>all thing.
I don't wan't to single out people or anything like that, I just want people to keep an open mind, as long as there is a good reason/study/personal success behind whatever you should atleast consider it. But in general this forum is indeed pretty open minded.
While more openmindedness is never a bad thing, I don't really feel the same way. I personally responded in support of the GVT guy - I thought it was interesting to try an alternative training style, and I wondered how it would work out for him. There were a few more users who thought the same as I did, and a few more who figured that the whole point of SS/SL is to teach new liters form, so why not use that? (because that was his goal, and it's easier to progress on 45 or 75 reps over three days than 100 reps on a single day) which is still fine - discussions do not mean closeminedness, they mean that people have opinions and they want to share them.
The pussy pad, unless someone has a severe problem with their spine is a good way to get injured. Me saying that is me understanding (and taking classes on) biomechanics, not me being close minded. I'm not going to say you can't use it - but I am going to say that it's a bad idea, because that is a fact.
Basically, disagreements and discussions don't equate to close-mindedness. being open minded is considering something before you dismiss it, not agreeing with it just because i's new and different, and I think that our forum (or at least the "regulars") is pretty good about doing that.
Well said, that's pretty much exactly how I feel about it (including the comments on the pussy pad). I guess it depends on what you focus on. I'm sure there are some people who are closeminded and negative about everything, but I probably just ignore their posts (or at least don't remember them).
My steady tread towards the 160kg squat continues. Did 145kg 4RM last night with ease, so 150kg should happen on Sunday. Question is, how long will it take me to go from 150kg to 160kg.
Oh right, when the climbing thing came up I forgot this board was all "SS or GTFO and die..." should I go back and edit those posts out before someone firebombs my apartment?
Uhhh i just started a 365 day project trying to get into shape/lose weight :-), started it yesterday and will hopefully be able to see how far i can go within a year, hopefully i will be able to write a success story about it when the year has passed.
ill mostly be focusing on weight loss in the begining to make straining from exercise less excesive i will be updateing a spread sheet and twitter thoughout the project (the spreadsheets needs to be more organised though becouse right now they are a mess of my thoghts, and there fore not especially well organised.
the twitter is tryxtraining for anyone who might be intrested in following also it has nothing to do with cross training though in retrospective it might not have been the best name, but whatever :-)
On September 11 2012 03:03 Sneakyz wrote: This vid from Layne Norton just popped up on my facebook, it's pretty much about close-mindedness in diet/training. Considering all the shit that's been going on in this sub forum lately, I think you guys should watch this video. If feel like there's been a lot of the "this is good, everything else is shit" kind of attitude, which is something that really bothers me.
I agree with most people here who say they don't see it that way. What Norton is saying is that you need to consider other opinions objectively and keep an open mind, not that all other opinions are equal. In fact, he specifically mentions, as an example, how crossfit would be inappropriate for powerlifters or bodybuilders. That's what we do here. When someone comes in with a different opinion we say why we disagree in reasonable terms. However, if they provide solid evidence to back up their opinions, I don't think anyone here will give them shit. It's only when they fail to support their opinions with any evidence (which is usually the case) that we shoot them down, which is completely in line with keeping an open mind and the scientific method.
I also don't think we give anyone shit for doing what they want to do. Someone a while back decided to do some german volume training thing and everyone said they'd be very interested in seeing how it turns out. Generally, we let people do whatever they feel like. When people do get shot down is when they try to advise others to do something which is not supported by science. You're free to experiment on yourself, but when new members come here looking for guidance, we can't just let people post unsupported bullshit.
If you have some specific situations in which the TLHF forums were close-minded when presented with strong evidence I'd be interested in seeing it, because that's the opposite of my experience so far.
I won't mention names or anything like that but I responded to the GVT thing specifically because the first few posts were saying it was shit/bad idea. Another thing that come to mind are the "pussy pad" discussion some time ago, and more recently of course the stuff in the nutrition thread and cardio>all thing.
I don't wan't to single out people or anything like that, I just want people to keep an open mind, as long as there is a good reason/study/personal success behind whatever you should atleast consider it. But in general this forum is indeed pretty open minded.
The pussy pad, unless someone has a severe problem with their spine is a good way to get injured. Me saying that is me understanding (and taking classes on) biomechanics, not me being close minded. I'm not going to say you can't use it - but I am going to say that it's a bad idea, because that is a fact.
Basically, disagreements and discussions don't equate to close-mindedness. being open minded is considering something before you dismiss it, not agreeing with it just because i's new and different, and I think that our forum (or at least the "regulars") is pretty good about doing that.
Obviously I don't have a problem with people saying "this is not good, here is why blabla" because that's a proper discussion, but if you go back and read the posts there are several really dumb ones.
My post was intended as a reminder of open-mindedness for everyone posting and reading this forum, not just the regulars.
All right boys, all this talk and updates about the Tough Mudder are pretty meaningless without pictures Unfortunately the women couldn't keep up with our group (we had a running group and a jogging group) so I didn't pictures of a lot of the events but here's a taste!
Is anybody going to the Tampa Tough Mudder in December? I've got a team set up that you're welcome to join, just PM me for the team name and password and I'll hook you up.
I'm also getting a fund together to bring my USMC veteran friend to go. He was shitting himself in anticipation all through this year but just recently had to fork over 3 grand for his car so he can't go. I'm trying to surprise him by raising a couple bucks to bring his crazy ass along. I won't post the indiegogo link here but if you're interested just send me a PM and I'll send it.
Yeah I saw it right after I got to this page. Did Wisconsin have shocks on the rocks, by any chance? Low crawl in the barb wire but in ice and the wire is electrified..
EPT
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iAxTZ.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XgMju.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5k1KS.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/V7DAf.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PR7GW.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m6rUm.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MGTf5.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8cggT.jpg)
