EPTCore stability is definitely important as is correct posture. Hopefully, maybe it is just an instability issue and everything will go away as you get stronger.
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Core stability is definitely important as is correct posture. Hopefully, maybe it is just an instability issue and everything will go away as you get stronger. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On September 08 2012 15:47 Froadac wrote: Here are my starting pictures from a couple weeks ago. Shoulderblades look messed up. Scar isn't healing well on back. So be it. Any advice on that? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4b89S.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7G47d.jpg) You know you're a fucking boss. right?. You can always get huge, and when someone asks "what is this, what is this scar of?". You can come up with shit like "Yueah, I was so strong and my back was so insane that I teared my skin apart and they had to glue it together all again so my body wouldn't fall apart. Fucking boss status right there. Panties dropped. EPIC. On September 09 2012 02:05 AoN.DimSum wrote: Here's a great video, reminds me of funkie haha. That guy just pretty much summed up my thoughts on life and lifting. Pain? Listening to your body? of fucking course I listen to my body, EVERYFUCKING DAY. It tells me, on a regular basis, that I'm a strong motherfucker, that when people tell me "sup, what you doing?", I tell them "nothing, just doing my normal 170kg Squat session, what's up with you?". When people come and stare at me, doing my own thing on the gym, looking like dorks, starting in awe, as I unrack 170kg, go down, stop, and back up again like it's cake, they do know shit's serious, and they do know what the fuck is going on. I really don't like people who bitch, I myself, punish myself when I do. Skipping gym sessions, no worries, tomorrow we gonna double the work load, so I feel like a shit motherfucker by the end of my workout. It's awesome having people around that know what you're talking about, and when I say that, I mean this exact place. People here are insightful, people here are mannered (except for the trolls. Fuck you trolls, fuck you). We always give each other mad props and well, this is the most awesome place in the world. Everytime I hit the gym, I have two reasons not to fail and to always push for more, 1.- To always be true to myself, and to never ever ever, feel like shit again. 2.- So I don't fail my bro's on the TL&HF initiative. Lift big, eat big, and fucking own life. VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS. | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
as for me, i'm starting to experience the limits of dumbbells. my gym doesn't have a bar, and i've worked my way up to squatting with two 45lb dumbbells on my shoulder, and deadlifting two 50lb dumbbells. the problem is: 1. holding two 45lb dumbbells on my shoulder is really difficult for my wrists and hands. after i finish my 5x6 set of squats, my hands and wrists are really really tired, but my legs are fine. ill have to move up in weight to keep gaining strength in my legs, but my hands/wrists can't handle it. 2. the dumbbells only go up to 50lbs. im supposed to be moving past 100lbs for deadlifts, but tomorrow, i'll just have to settle for more reps.... On September 10 2012 02:19 funkie wrote: You know you're a fucking boss. right?. You can always get huge, and when someone asks "what is this, what is this scar of?". You can come up with shit like "Yueah, I was so strong and my back was so insane that I teared my skin apart and they had to glue it together all again so my body wouldn't fall apart. Fucking boss status right there. Panties dropped. EPIC. That guy just pretty much summed up my thoughts on life and lifting. Pain? Listening to your body? of fucking course I listen to my body, EVERYFUCKING DAY. It tells me, on a regular basis, that I'm a strong motherfucker, that when people tell me "sup, what you doing?", I tell them "nothing, just doing my normal 170kg Squat session, what's up with you?". When people come and stare at me, doing my own thing on the gym, looking like dorks, starting in awe, as I unrack 170kg, go down, stop, and back up again like it's cake, they do know shit's serious, and they do know what the fuck is going on. I really don't like people who bitch, I myself, punish myself when I do. Skipping gym sessions, no worries, tomorrow we gonna double the work load, so I feel like a shit motherfucker by the end of my workout. It's awesome having people around that know what you're talking about, and when I say that, I mean this exact place. People here are insightful, people here are mannered (except for the trolls. Fuck you trolls, fuck you). We always give each other mad props and well, this is the most awesome place in the world. Everytime I hit the gym, I have two reasons not to fail and to always push for more, 1.- To always be true to myself, and to never ever ever, feel like shit again. 2.- So I don't fail my bro's on the TL&HF initiative. Lift big, eat big, and fucking own life. VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS. great motivation right here. lifting has made me so much more confident and positive in general. | ||
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4thHatchery
Finland125 Posts
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On September 10 2012 19:56 4thHatchery wrote: Freaking firecracker funkie. I'm getting depressed reading this forum with funkie, gotunk and decaf with their miracle recovery abilities while I'm not satisfied with my progress at all. Once I get over this cold I'll try a different approach and keep way far away from training to failure. Still good for you guys. Keep being awesome! You just gotta channel your inner decaf. It always works!  | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
I ran with four other guys the entire time and felt like a boss. Finished in about 2.5 hours but it's not really about the time. Could have shaved off 30 minutes by cutting to the front of lines at obstacles and not helping others through. Just a ton of fun and I recommend it. Also really stoked I completed every obstacle successfully :D | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 11 2012 03:03 Sneakyz wrote: This vid from Layne Norton just popped up on my facebook, it's pretty much about close-mindedness in diet/training. Considering all the shit that's been going on in this sub forum lately, I think you guys should watch this video. If feel like there's been a lot of the "this is good, everything else is shit" kind of attitude, which is something that really bothers me. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOUW2ruT8wA&feature=plcp I really don't get the impression that attitude exists here like so many people seem to believe. If people express general goals, they receive general advice that people here find to be effective. Go fucking figure. That's what you can expect. If people have specific goals that don't align with what the majority here prefer to do, people will still try to help. Nobody here has been condescending or rude to me for asking questions about how to not eat paleo, since my body disagrees with certain foods. Nobody insults me for starting martial arts without spending hours a week in the gym lifting first. Nobody has a problem with me not being particularly concerned with getting huge. The people I tend to see who refuse to consider alternatives, who make personal attacks on that basis, are people who show up here, pushing weird agendas that aren't in line with the majority of people's goals. Now if you're suggesting that TLHF largely includes like-minded individuals, sure, shocking. So does every other sub-board here. Most forums are like that. And if you look, while most people here suggest weight training as a "general" thing, there's a running thread. There's a body weight thread. And I bet if someone made a vegan thread with a good OP, on diet stuff and whanot, while people might engage in some debate (don't act like that never happens in the paleo thread), there wouldn't be personal attacks and insults. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
But my close-mindedness (and by association my hatred) comes from the fact that I was that client years ago and if it weren't for fuckarounds like that PT I might have discovered deadlifts and squats before I became a fatass. My wasted youth! Basically what I'm doing yields results, and it has been yielding results since the days of Arnold. The rampant bullshit that I see every day at the gym does not. edit: oh yeah, and you have to believe in what you're doing, especially when it's as much work as deadlifts and squats, or you'd just drown in doubt and quit. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20166 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On September 11 2012 03:03 Sneakyz wrote: This vid from Layne Norton just popped up on my facebook, it's pretty much about close-mindedness in diet/training. Considering all the shit that's been going on in this sub forum lately, I think you guys should watch this video. If feel like there's been a lot of the "this is good, everything else is shit" kind of attitude, which is something that really bothers me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOUW2ruT8wA&feature=plcp I agree with most people here who say they don't see it that way. What Norton is saying is that you need to consider other opinions objectively and keep an open mind, not that all other opinions are equal. In fact, he specifically mentions, as an example, how crossfit would be inappropriate for powerlifters or bodybuilders. That's what we do here. When someone comes in with a different opinion we say why we disagree in reasonable terms. However, if they provide solid evidence to back up their opinions, I don't think anyone here will give them shit. It's only when they fail to support their opinions with any evidence (which is usually the case) that we shoot them down, which is completely in line with keeping an open mind and the scientific method. I also don't think we give anyone shit for doing what they want to do. Someone a while back decided to do some german volume training thing and everyone said they'd be very interested in seeing how it turns out. Generally, we let people do whatever they feel like. When people do get shot down is when they try to advise others to do something which is not supported by science. You're free to experiment on yourself, but when new members come here looking for guidance, we can't just let people post unsupported bullshit. If you have some specific situations in which the TLHF forums were close-minded when presented with strong evidence I'd be interested in seeing it, because that's the opposite of my experience so far. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On September 11 2012 04:58 Daigomi wrote: I agree with most people here who say they don't see it that way. What Norton is saying is that you need to consider other opinions objectively and keep an open mind, not that all other opinions are equal. In fact, he specifically mentions, as an example, how crossfit would be inappropriate for powerlifters or bodybuilders. That's what we do here. When someone comes in with a different opinion we say why we disagree in reasonable terms. However, if they provide solid evidence to back up their opinions, I don't think anyone here will give them shit. It's only when they fail to support their opinions with any evidence (which is usually the case) that we shoot them down, which is completely in line with keeping an open mind and the scientific method. I also don't think we give anyone shit for doing what they want to do. Someone a while back decided to do some german volume training thing and everyone said they'd be very interested in seeing how it turns out. Generally, we let people do whatever they feel like. When people do get shot down is when they try to advise others to do something which is not supported by science. You're free to experiment on yourself, but when new members come here looking for guidance, we can't just let people post unsupported bullshit. If you have some specific situations in which the TLHF forums were close-minded when presented with strong evidence I'd be interested in seeing it, because that's the opposite of my experience so far. I won't mention names or anything like that but I responded to the GVT thing specifically because the first few posts were saying it was shit/bad idea. Another thing that come to mind are the "pussy pad" discussion some time ago, and more recently of course the stuff in the nutrition thread and cardio>all thing. I don't wan't to single out people or anything like that, I just want people to keep an open mind, as long as there is a good reason/study/personal success behind whatever you should atleast consider it. But in general this forum is indeed pretty open minded. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
I mean heck, I spent 2.5 hours yesterday running around and doing obstacles. I gave regular updates on my cardio progress leading up to Tough Mudder. No one gave me crap for it. I also followed the advice to do SS last February and I put on 10+ pounds of muscle for the first time in years. I mean maybe it looks like its lift or die here but honestly almost eveyone asking for help is wanting the results lifting will give them... if that's not the case it becomes clear and no one keeps shoving it down their throat. I like to think I'm open-minded and think critically. I do a lot of research on stuff talked about here. On top of that I see people like myself, shawster, mcmartini, who had no real weightlifting experience but progressed and got results. We became informed individuals and I thank TLH&F for that. I'm kinda rambling here but I'm just tired of the paleo/nutrition/q&a threads getting mucked when its obvious some people are there to help and listen, and some are there to push an agenda. Edit: Proofreading typos | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On September 11 2012 05:20 Sneakyz wrote: I won't mention names or anything like that but I responded to the GVT thing specifically because the first few posts were saying it was shit/bad idea. Another thing that come to mind are the "pussy pad" discussion some time ago, and more recently of course the stuff in the nutrition thread and cardio>all thing. I don't wan't to single out people or anything like that, I just want people to keep an open mind, as long as there is a good reason/study/personal success behind whatever you should atleast consider it. But in general this forum is indeed pretty open minded. I agree, I find this a valid concern for this subforum. I don't think we have a severe problem here ("all the shit that has been going on here"), but simply put, more open mindedness from everyone would really only be a good thing. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
Right now it feels like the perfect sport for me, so happy. Also if you finally finish a route best feeling ever. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 11 2012 07:06 Keniji wrote: I just got into climbing (only indoor atm, not that many places to climb outdoor where I live, well, indoor is just convenient right now) but holy shit it's so much fun, and you notice like every single muscle in your body (even those you didn't knew existed) after it. Considering I was never much into going in fitness studios and lifting weights (just felt more like work to me, dunno) it's a nice way to build up some strenghts too I guess. Right now it feels like the perfect sport for me, so happy. Also if you finally finish a route best feeling ever. Climbing is excellent. There's another advantage to indoor, that you may not have considered. Shoes and harness can be rented some places, and even if you buy them, that's nothing compared to cams, quickdraws, rope, and so forth. Fuck that's an expensive hobby, but yeah, it's a blast. I assume for liability reasons, you have to sign a waiver at minimum, and possibly sit through some safety type shit? If not, you should seriously look into learning that shit for yourself. My friend's wife broke her legs due to a minor fuckup in the remembering to tie in department. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On September 11 2012 07:10 JingleHell wrote: Climbing is excellent. There's another advantage to indoor, that you may not have considered. Shoes and harness can be rented some places, and even if you buy them, that's nothing compared to cams, quickdraws, rope, and so forth. Fuck that's an expensive hobby, but yeah, it's a blast. I assume for liability reasons, you have to sign a waiver at minimum, and possibly sit through some safety type shit? If not, you should seriously look into learning that shit for yourself. My friend's wife broke her legs due to a minor fuckup in the remembering to tie in department. oh yea, true. Only thing I really need are shoes, a belt and an atc (or somethig similiar) so it's some investment, but reasonable. All the shit you need for outdoor is probably a whole other level. Right now I have borrowed the old stuff from a friend but I eventually have to buy my own. I mean the safety stuff isn't really hard to do, I obv. got an explanation the first time I did it (luckily one of my friends is climbing for a while now and got it for free), and as long as your double check with your partner (like the only real danger is that you have it down as an automatism and somehow fuck it up) it should be fine. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 11 2012 07:37 Keniji wrote: oh yea, true. Only thing I really need are shoes, a belt and an atc (or somethig similiar) so it's some investment, but reasonable. All the shit you need for outdoor is probably a whole other level. Right now I have borrowed the old stuff from a friend but I eventually have to buy my own. I mean the safety stuff isn't really hard to do, I obv. got an explanation the first time I did it (luckily one of my friends is climbing for a while now and got it for free), and as long as your double check with your partner (like the only real danger is that you have it down as an automatism and somehow fuck it up) it should be fine. Pretty much. And yeah. You definitely don't want to ever treat any of it as automatic. Just because you have the skillset down doesn't mean you should not think about it, screwing up is kinda dangerous. I personally would never use second hand stuff outside of a close friend (sounds like the case with you) just due to the dangers of not knowing how well it's been treated. I actually had it decent in Colorado when I first took it up, all the places I was climbing at had some bolted routes with anchor points at the top, so I didn't have to invest in the worst of it, but I still needed the draws and rope, which isn't cheap. Start getting nuts and cams and the price skyrockets. Allowed to use chalk at the place you go? Really handy. If you ever get the chance for outdoor, though, you definitely need to try it. Especially if you can do sandstone. Climbing a mostly smooth sandstone route with an ascent that's mostly smearing and friction with tiny cracks is insane. When I get back from TKD I'll try and find some of my old pics. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On September 11 2012 07:44 JingleHell wrote: Pretty much. And yeah. You definitely don't want to ever treat any of it as automatic. Just because you have the skillset down doesn't mean you should not think about it, screwing up is kinda dangerous. I personally would never use second hand stuff outside of a close friend (sounds like the case with you) just due to the dangers of not knowing how well it's been treated. I actually had it decent in Colorado when I first took it up, all the places I was climbing at had some bolted routes with anchor points at the top, so I didn't have to invest in the worst of it, but I still needed the draws and rope, which isn't cheap. Start getting nuts and cams and the price skyrockets. Allowed to use chalk at the place you go? Really handy. If you ever get the chance for outdoor, though, you definitely need to try it. Especially if you can do sandstone. Climbing a mostly smooth sandstone route with an ascent that's mostly smearing and friction with tiny cracks is insane. When I get back from TKD I'll try and find some of my old pics. The stuff I have isn't even that old and he's still using it himself sometimes, so I totally trust him with that. chalk is allowed, I can't even imagine doing it without, so slippery. If I ever get the chance doing it outdoor I'll definitely try it. Must be amazing. | ||
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