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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 30 2012 20:47 GMT
#6341
Holy shit his fucking chest :O It looks freaking unreal in slow motion.

I don't think a spotter would have mattered there, it happened so fast and the weight is so heavy. Open grip man... it's dangerous.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 30 2012 20:56 GMT
#6342
Seems like close grip to me, but he was resting the weight on his thumbs and they gave way. Pretty horrifying.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
ultrakiss
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
97 Posts
August 30 2012 21:01 GMT
#6343
Ultrakiss

Age:22 Height:5'7 Weight:145

Starting Date:8/29/12
Weight Goals: 155 pounds
Goals--
Deadlift: 330x5
Bench: 175x5
Squat: 230x5
Military Press:135x5

Current lifts--
Deadlift:250x5
Bench:155x5
Squat: 165x5
Military Press: 80x5
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 30 2012 21:36 GMT
#6344
On August 31 2012 05:47 Necosarius wrote:
I don't think a spotter would have mattered there, it happened so fast and the weight is so heavy. Open grip man... it's dangerous.


When I am spotting someone I am always waiting for that exact thing to happen so I can be ready in a deep squat to catch the bar, it will NOT get past my hands unless my back breaks. People at a competition should have that mentality or be even more alert. From the videos I have seen in most powerlifting meets (granted almost all American), the spotters squat with the bar and are ready to catch it almost immediately. I agree that it might have been impossible to stop, but the spotter didn't try one tiny bit. Quite appalling really.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 30 2012 23:18 GMT
#6345
That was horrific. Oh gosh. I can't believe he sits there and then he dies later
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
August 30 2012 23:51 GMT
#6346
Definitely not the nicest thing I've seen today...

To something more positive.

Went to the gym today at my uni's other campus. It had much better racks, the gnurls (knurls?) on the bars were more grippy and there was less people. It's closer to home so I might start going there on Friday mornings when I don't have class. Gonna tweak things a bit so I'm always deadlifting heavy on Fridays. Grip strength has just about always been my weak point so I think the grippier bars could add at least 5kg to my max. Only downside about this gym is the bumper plates don't seem as soft/bouncy.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 31 2012 02:29 GMT
#6347
Damn, that was a brutal accident.... spotter honestly can't do anything about it once the weight slips even if hands were under thebar... it goes down too fast and it's too heavy. Not spotters fault at all.

Open grip is just not a good idea. That's how the NCAA football player a couple years ago dropped it on his throat and almost died.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 31 2012 02:37 GMT
#6348
not gonna watch the damn video.

judging by the awful comments it's insane .
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lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 31 2012 02:59 GMT
#6349
On August 31 2012 08:51 Ludrik wrote:
Definitely not the nicest thing I've seen today...

To something more positive.

Went to the gym today at my uni's other campus. It had much better racks, the gnurls (knurls?) on the bars were more grippy and there was less people. It's closer to home so I might start going there on Friday mornings when I don't have class. Gonna tweak things a bit so I'm always deadlifting heavy on Fridays. Grip strength has just about always been my weak point so I think the grippier bars could add at least 5kg to my max. Only downside about this gym is the bumper plates don't seem as soft/bouncy.


Bouncy bumper plates suck =)
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 31 2012 09:03 GMT
#6350
On August 31 2012 11:29 eshlow wrote:
Damn, that was a brutal accident.... spotter honestly can't do anything about it once the weight slips even if hands were under thebar... it goes down too fast and it's too heavy. Not spotters fault at all.

Open grip is just not a good idea. That's how the NCAA football player a couple years ago dropped it on his throat and almost died.


doing 30kg over your training 1rm? doesn't matter how good your spotters are, you're an idiot and it's going to result in injury.

On August 31 2012 11:59 lyAsakura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 08:51 Ludrik wrote:
Definitely not the nicest thing I've seen today...

To something more positive.

Went to the gym today at my uni's other campus. It had much better racks, the gnurls (knurls?) on the bars were more grippy and there was less people. It's closer to home so I might start going there on Friday mornings when I don't have class. Gonna tweak things a bit so I'm always deadlifting heavy on Fridays. Grip strength has just about always been my weak point so I think the grippier bars could add at least 5kg to my max. Only downside about this gym is the bumper plates don't seem as soft/bouncy.


Bouncy bumper plates suck =)


I like the bouncy plates. They don't cause as much noise, so not as many people stare at me. Of course, the gym we have better plates at is half the size, so there's still a solid base of staring for jerks or snatch - but you CANNOT argue that the four year old black kraiburg plates in the older (larger, better, more accessible gym that contains two squat racks) stand up against the Pendlay colored set in the newer (smaller, no squat rack, next to all the fraternities, still with a platform and five benches bro-sesh) gym across the quad. It doesn't matter hugely, but over time (like the two and a half years I've been lifting here) it's going to make a difference.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
August 31 2012 15:13 GMT
#6351
Why did I watch that.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 31 2012 15:31 GMT
#6352
On September 01 2012 00:13 Malinor wrote:
Why did I watch that.

dude, my exact thoughts. that was worse than watching people's elbows get broken in olympic weightlifting. the slowmo was the worst....

about to go to the gym too.... gonna be extra extra careful with those dumbbells now. man this is gonna bother me for a while hahaha
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 31 2012 15:33 GMT
#6353
I'm glad I closed the tab when I saw the slow mo start. Already have the image burned in my mind TT
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
August 31 2012 16:57 GMT
#6354
so I went to orthopedist today and his diagnosis for my left shoulder was loose ligaments (I think? from a dislocation).

he said that I should avoid free weights and he mentioned deadlift in particular… not bench pressing has become a no-brainer for me, but not that sure if deadlift is bad for me. apparently surgery is an option but I'd be much happier to find exercises that I can perform in long term without pain. and the crappy thing about the shoulder is that I don't really get instant feedback on what's bad for it so it's hard to judge.
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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 31 2012 18:13 GMT
#6355
why did I watch that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 31 2012 18:36 GMT
#6356
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_answer_for_massive_calves

Wow this is a cool article, I'm going to be trying the advice here :D
Levythenobz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada42 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 19:11:43
August 31 2012 19:11 GMT
#6357
Hi guys, I've been lurking the TLHF forums for a while and was looking for a form check on my squat.

This was at 220lbs and is it my work set weight (following Starting strenght)



Please comment, thanks!
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
August 31 2012 19:31 GMT
#6358
On September 01 2012 04:11 Levythenobz wrote:
Hi guys, I've been lurking the TLHF forums for a while and was looking for a form check on my squat.

This was at 220lbs and is it my work set weight (following Starting strenght)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoSZTgRFq3s&feature=youtu.be

Please comment, thanks!

That's pretty much what a work set on SS looks like imo.

Technique isn't bad but there are a few things you can work on. First, you must really focus on pushing your chest out before each rep. From the first rep you were leaning forward with your chest. Second, you need to focus on tightening your core, especially after the first rep. In that set, the more tired you got the further you started leaning forward. That's fairly normal, but it's something you should definitely work on. Other than that it looked pretty good to me.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 20:35:55
August 31 2012 20:35 GMT
#6359
On September 01 2012 01:57 rEiGN~ wrote:
so I went to orthopedist today and his diagnosis for my left shoulder was loose ligaments (I think? from a dislocation).

he said that I should avoid free weights and he mentioned deadlift in particular… not bench pressing has become a no-brainer for me, but not that sure if deadlift is bad for me. apparently surgery is an option but I'd be much happier to find exercises that I can perform in long term without pain. and the crappy thing about the shoulder is that I don't really get instant feedback on what's bad for it so it's hard to judge.


http://functionalmovement.com/articles/fitness/2011-12-12_balanced_body_series_-_dead_lifting

Article by Gray Cook, one of the best physical therapists out there

The first rule of dead lifting is to reduce the range of motion and lift a respectable amount of weight. Many times in a fitness approach, we will require the same degree of range of motion, but use a lesser degree of weight, with the overall goal being safety and motor learning. I have found the opposite to be true. Reducing the range of motion to that which is a comfortable range and giving an individual a larger amount of weight, significantly reduces substitution and compensation. When bending and lifting something, a light weight will actually evoke elbow flexion, shoulder shrugging and retraction. Whereas, a heavy weight will allow the arm to dangle like a pendulum from the side. This will allow proper reflex contraction of the rotator cuff musculature, elicited by a good firm grip on that which is being lifted. Retraction is not necessary. Elbow flexion is not necessary. Simply hinging at the hip in a smooth manner will lift the weight off the floor.


Heavy weight will increase activation of rotator cuff to keep the GH joint in there... same with strengthening RC muscles and whatnot.

You definitely should keep doing deadlifts
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 00:48:24
September 01 2012 00:48 GMT
#6360
So did I get that right, I shouldn't retract scapula when deadlifting?

Not completely sure but I might have built a habit of doing that.
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