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billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
July 15 2012 21:06 GMT
#5361
HOLY CRAP. Someone gave me one of those "psychological" tips while working out, and this didn't feel like bs at all (to me at least). It went something along the lines of "imagine yourself in third person". I don't know about you guys, but I've applied this to my lifestyle in general, and it's been a real boost to the things I do--or rather, the things I should do lol.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
July 15 2012 21:24 GMT
#5362
On July 15 2012 11:37 phyre112 wrote:
Fuck.

I feel like going to the gym is a waste of time right now... I still love going to lift, but I can't actually get any weight moved in any exercises that matter. It's three weeks of this, getting towards four. My hip feels a lot better, but I still can't get a deadlift off the ground, and I still can't turn around in a squat. Taking 225 off the floor feels like I'm lifting the goddamn moon, even though I can pull way more than that. I can't pull my old "worksets" right now for a single rep, I'm not even thinking about setting PRs anymore. I'm going in, trying to do my real lifts, realizing it's not going to happen today and then doing some kind of stupid lifts for thirty minutes so I didn't waste the trip. Rinse and repeat the next day, and hope to god it goes away soon. I don't feel tired all the time, but people around me are commenting that I look or act like I am.

I don't know whether I'm working too much (typically working ~45 hours/week, out in the sun) not sleeping enough (I've always slept badly. Irregular hours, and poor quality. Maybe it's catching up with me.) not eating enough (I think I am, I'm at least maintaining if not gaining slowly) or I tried to lift too much and I'm just burnt out. Maybe this is what over training feels like? Maybe I'm still sick and I dont know it? Maybe I'm just a little bitch and I need to muscle through, because tomorrow I'll lift better? Maybe this is my punishment for not calling those Oly coaches yet? I don't know.

All I know is I'm excited to go to the gym, and pick up heavy shit, and then when I get there the goddamn bottom falls out and I can't do shit. And it's really starting to piss me off.

I'm telling you this is exactly how I felt when my SI joint was messed up. Could be something else but it sounds just like when I went to the gym two months ago. Two sessions at the chiropractor and I was good in a week. I tried muscling through and it got worse. If anyone remembers, this is when I channelled my inner decaf and did 315x5 dl. I then was unable to pull a deadlift over 225 aftewards.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#5363
On July 16 2012 05:50 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 22:36 Osmoses wrote:
Well.. If you were really surprised by this, your life is probably gonna be shit for the next two months or so. That's usually how long it takes to see it wasn't worth having.

Hang in there man.


Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 04:47 Risen wrote:
On July 15 2012 23:24 Luxae wrote:
On July 15 2012 22:20 Deadeight wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaand.... I'm single.

Just like that, after 4 years.


Ah man, that sucks. I obviously don't know anything about your relationship, but I've found that what I'm about to say applies to pretty 99% of these cases: It's very likely that at some point one of you will want to "try again" or something like that. THIS DOES NOT WORK OUT WELL, EVER. It might sound a bit harsh but I highly recommend that you severe all contact with your ex and spending the following weeks throwing yourself into your passions in life, be it lifting or something else. It'll save you a whole lot of time and heartache.


Listen to this. All contact, gone. Delete her from facebook, remove her number from phone, everything like that. You don't have to burn pictures or delete them off facebook that's silly, but do not contact her in any way at all (took me like 4 months of no contact with her before I didn't feel hurt anymore and even now years later I still don't want to have anything to do with her not b/c I'm mad but b/c it makes me sad)




Thanks guys, and yeah I'm doing exactly this. She said she still wants to talk and she was giving the impression that she wants to break up for a few months then get back together in the future (needs space, coming to the end of her year long research project and writing up, blah blah).

Not having any of that shit. I called and told her to come tomorrow to pick the last couple of bits she forgot when she took all her stuff, and that after that I didn't want to talk to her, and that being friends wouldn't work for me. She turned on the water works which normally makes me weak, but I stayed strong.

Spent the day typing lists on notepad lol, helped a lot. I'm ready to get over this now, just need to pick something to throw myself into.



My ex tried to do that. She came to me and said "I just want some vacations" that was the "boiling" point for me. I told her, here here, here's your vacation, now you're free of me, for fucking life.

And yes, delete every possible connection to her. I haven't spoken to my ex in 3months or so. Her mum and dad still write me lol. it's kind of weird, but yes. I do believe she has someone else, I, for the other part, want nothing other than to lift, listen to music, design and be happy. ALONE.

fuck bitches, iron is where is at (we are such snobs here lol).
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 21:46:01
July 15 2012 21:41 GMT
#5364
On July 16 2012 06:39 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 05:50 Deadeight wrote:
On July 15 2012 22:36 Osmoses wrote:
Well.. If you were really surprised by this, your life is probably gonna be shit for the next two months or so. That's usually how long it takes to see it wasn't worth having.

Hang in there man.


On July 16 2012 04:47 Risen wrote:
On July 15 2012 23:24 Luxae wrote:
On July 15 2012 22:20 Deadeight wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaand.... I'm single.

Just like that, after 4 years.


Ah man, that sucks. I obviously don't know anything about your relationship, but I've found that what I'm about to say applies to pretty 99% of these cases: It's very likely that at some point one of you will want to "try again" or something like that. THIS DOES NOT WORK OUT WELL, EVER. It might sound a bit harsh but I highly recommend that you severe all contact with your ex and spending the following weeks throwing yourself into your passions in life, be it lifting or something else. It'll save you a whole lot of time and heartache.


Listen to this. All contact, gone. Delete her from facebook, remove her number from phone, everything like that. You don't have to burn pictures or delete them off facebook that's silly, but do not contact her in any way at all (took me like 4 months of no contact with her before I didn't feel hurt anymore and even now years later I still don't want to have anything to do with her not b/c I'm mad but b/c it makes me sad)




Thanks guys, and yeah I'm doing exactly this. She said she still wants to talk and she was giving the impression that she wants to break up for a few months then get back together in the future (needs space, coming to the end of her year long research project and writing up, blah blah).

Not having any of that shit. I called and told her to come tomorrow to pick the last couple of bits she forgot when she took all her stuff, and that after that I didn't want to talk to her, and that being friends wouldn't work for me. She turned on the water works which normally makes me weak, but I stayed strong.

Spent the day typing lists on notepad lol, helped a lot. I'm ready to get over this now, just need to pick something to throw myself into.



My ex tried to do that. She came to me and said "I just want some vacations" that was the "boiling" point for me. I told her, here here, here's your vacation, now you're free of me, for fucking life.

And yes, delete every possible connection to her. I haven't spoken to my ex in 3months or so. Her mum and dad still write me lol. it's kind of weird, but yes. I do believe she has someone else, I, for the other part, want nothing other than to lift, listen to music, design and be happy. ALONE.

fuck bitches, iron is where is at (we are such snobs here lol).



You're totally right on this. Looking back now it feels like a bit of a waste of time. I just want to lift and study. Not going to bother with a girlfriend at least for a few years, not really worth it.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 00:51:47
July 16 2012 00:50 GMT
#5365
On July 16 2012 06:41 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 06:39 funkie wrote:
On July 16 2012 05:50 Deadeight wrote:
On July 15 2012 22:36 Osmoses wrote:
Well.. If you were really surprised by this, your life is probably gonna be shit for the next two months or so. That's usually how long it takes to see it wasn't worth having.

Hang in there man.


On July 16 2012 04:47 Risen wrote:
On July 15 2012 23:24 Luxae wrote:
On July 15 2012 22:20 Deadeight wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaand.... I'm single.

Just like that, after 4 years.


Ah man, that sucks. I obviously don't know anything about your relationship, but I've found that what I'm about to say applies to pretty 99% of these cases: It's very likely that at some point one of you will want to "try again" or something like that. THIS DOES NOT WORK OUT WELL, EVER. It might sound a bit harsh but I highly recommend that you severe all contact with your ex and spending the following weeks throwing yourself into your passions in life, be it lifting or something else. It'll save you a whole lot of time and heartache.


Listen to this. All contact, gone. Delete her from facebook, remove her number from phone, everything like that. You don't have to burn pictures or delete them off facebook that's silly, but do not contact her in any way at all (took me like 4 months of no contact with her before I didn't feel hurt anymore and even now years later I still don't want to have anything to do with her not b/c I'm mad but b/c it makes me sad)




Thanks guys, and yeah I'm doing exactly this. She said she still wants to talk and she was giving the impression that she wants to break up for a few months then get back together in the future (needs space, coming to the end of her year long research project and writing up, blah blah).

Not having any of that shit. I called and told her to come tomorrow to pick the last couple of bits she forgot when she took all her stuff, and that after that I didn't want to talk to her, and that being friends wouldn't work for me. She turned on the water works which normally makes me weak, but I stayed strong.

Spent the day typing lists on notepad lol, helped a lot. I'm ready to get over this now, just need to pick something to throw myself into.



My ex tried to do that. She came to me and said "I just want some vacations" that was the "boiling" point for me. I told her, here here, here's your vacation, now you're free of me, for fucking life.

And yes, delete every possible connection to her. I haven't spoken to my ex in 3months or so. Her mum and dad still write me lol. it's kind of weird, but yes. I do believe she has someone else, I, for the other part, want nothing other than to lift, listen to music, design and be happy. ALONE.

fuck bitches, iron is where is at (we are such snobs here lol).



You're totally right on this. Looking back now it feels like a bit of a waste of time. I just want to lift and study. Not going to bother with a girlfriend at least for a few years, not really worth it.


tlhf + iron is the best support group . hang in there buddy, keep strong

finally bought myself some creatine... can anyone testify how effective it is? oh and lactose free milk yay. time to bulk without having diarrhea every day...
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 16 2012 00:53 GMT
#5366
Women come and go, but the barbell is always there.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 16 2012 02:10 GMT
#5367
On July 15 2012 13:03 BlondeOnBlonde wrote:
Dropped all pull work and did Box squat / Front Box Squat / dynamic work with jump and reactive jumps for the past month. I did a final training session at the gym I was and jumped on a 55 inch box. No video unfortunatly...

My strength training is reduced during the summer but I'll soon start training for the deadlift once again. I'll start taking videos again too!


wtf sick. was it that high before you changed your training? 55 inch is pretty damn impressive, can you dunk?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
July 16 2012 02:35 GMT
#5368
On July 15 2012 11:37 phyre112 wrote:
Fuck.

I feel like going to the gym is a waste of time right now... I still love going to lift, but I can't actually get any weight moved in any exercises that matter. It's three weeks of this, getting towards four. My hip feels a lot better, but I still can't get a deadlift off the ground, and I still can't turn around in a squat. Taking 225 off the floor feels like I'm lifting the goddamn moon, even though I can pull way more than that. I can't pull my old "worksets" right now for a single rep, I'm not even thinking about setting PRs anymore. I'm going in, trying to do my real lifts, realizing it's not going to happen today and then doing some kind of stupid lifts for thirty minutes so I didn't waste the trip. Rinse and repeat the next day, and hope to god it goes away soon. I don't feel tired all the time, but people around me are commenting that I look or act like I am.

I don't know whether I'm working too much (typically working ~45 hours/week, out in the sun) not sleeping enough (I've always slept badly. Irregular hours, and poor quality. Maybe it's catching up with me.) not eating enough (I think I am, I'm at least maintaining if not gaining slowly) or I tried to lift too much and I'm just burnt out. Maybe this is what over training feels like? Maybe I'm still sick and I dont know it? Maybe I'm just a little bitch and I need to muscle through, because tomorrow I'll lift better? Maybe this is my punishment for not calling those Oly coaches yet? I don't know.

All I know is I'm excited to go to the gym, and pick up heavy shit, and then when I get there the goddamn bottom falls out and I can't do shit. And it's really starting to piss me off.

I can guarantee it is not working too much. I don't know what your eating/sleeping schedule is like but if those are ok (be honest with yourself) you should be seeing gains. Either way it wouldn't hurt to reset all of your lifts a bit and work back up again.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 16 2012 04:38 GMT
#5369
On July 16 2012 11:10 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 13:03 BlondeOnBlonde wrote:
Dropped all pull work and did Box squat / Front Box Squat / dynamic work with jump and reactive jumps for the past month. I did a final training session at the gym I was and jumped on a 55 inch box. No video unfortunatly...

My strength training is reduced during the summer but I'll soon start training for the deadlift once again. I'll start taking videos again too!


wtf sick. was it that high before you changed your training? 55 inch is pretty damn impressive, can you dunk?


Hah, he jumped ON a 55 inch box, not he has a 55 inch vertical XD
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 16 2012 05:22 GMT
#5370
still impressive. Nearly five feet high w/o fosbury flop.
☺
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 16 2012 05:27 GMT
#5371
On July 16 2012 11:35 Hurricane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:37 phyre112 wrote:
Fuck.

I feel like going to the gym is a waste of time right now... I still love going to lift, but I can't actually get any weight moved in any exercises that matter. It's three weeks of this, getting towards four. My hip feels a lot better, but I still can't get a deadlift off the ground, and I still can't turn around in a squat. Taking 225 off the floor feels like I'm lifting the goddamn moon, even though I can pull way more than that. I can't pull my old "worksets" right now for a single rep, I'm not even thinking about setting PRs anymore. I'm going in, trying to do my real lifts, realizing it's not going to happen today and then doing some kind of stupid lifts for thirty minutes so I didn't waste the trip. Rinse and repeat the next day, and hope to god it goes away soon. I don't feel tired all the time, but people around me are commenting that I look or act like I am.

I don't know whether I'm working too much (typically working ~45 hours/week, out in the sun) not sleeping enough (I've always slept badly. Irregular hours, and poor quality. Maybe it's catching up with me.) not eating enough (I think I am, I'm at least maintaining if not gaining slowly) or I tried to lift too much and I'm just burnt out. Maybe this is what over training feels like? Maybe I'm still sick and I dont know it? Maybe I'm just a little bitch and I need to muscle through, because tomorrow I'll lift better? Maybe this is my punishment for not calling those Oly coaches yet? I don't know.

All I know is I'm excited to go to the gym, and pick up heavy shit, and then when I get there the goddamn bottom falls out and I can't do shit. And it's really starting to piss me off.

I can guarantee it is not working too much. I don't know what your eating/sleeping schedule is like but if those are ok (be honest with yourself) you should be seeing gains. Either way it wouldn't hurt to reset all of your lifts a bit and work back up again.


My eating, while still not enough is more than it's ever been before. I'm gaining at an almost unnoticeably slow pace. I should probably try to eat more, and to eat more through the course of the day. My sleeping is awful, but it's always been awful. I get at least seven hours, but sometimes I go to sleep at midnight, and sometimes I go to sleep at six AM.

The problem with resetting is that I can barely pull my warmup sets right now. I struggle with a 225 deadlift, when I pulled 345 at the start of the summer (and I've been lifting consistently since then). I've already been forced into a reset, but it's not helping. I'm going back to the gym to Front Squat and overhead press tomorrow. I'm hoping I can grind my way through it, and prove to myself that this really is all in my head.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
July 16 2012 06:06 GMT
#5372
@phyre112: I know you're experienced, probably more experienced than I am but can we maybe get some video of what you're doing? From the sound of it, it doesn't seem like there's been anything else that's been changed since the beginning of the summer. It's especially odd that you're not experiencing pain from (sorry I don't recall what happened, something related to hip injury?) anymore. The reason why I'm suggesting this is because my girlfriend was in a similar situation near the beginning of spring. Her back squat and deadlift was for some odd reason atrocious, she would fail her warmup sets and have no idea why while at the same time, her front squat kept progressing and she made them look easy. There was no pain to speak of and she did not have prior injuries but she just "couldn't produce enough force" even though her lifestyle habits weren't dramatically changed in any way.

Seems like when training alone, even after gaining a substantial amount of experience, sometimes you just need a refresher on what's optimal form for you.
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
July 16 2012 08:52 GMT
#5373
Does anybody know how much muscle weight you gain for strength added?

Say I went from 10kg dumbell rows x 20 reps to 20kg dumbell rows x20 reps, ie +10kg on this movement. No other strength gains whatsoever, what would the resulting muscle weight/bodyweight increase be for this strength gain?
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 16 2012 09:17 GMT
#5374
On July 16 2012 17:52 Sinep wrote:
Does anybody know how much muscle weight you gain for strength added?

Say I went from 10kg dumbell rows x 20 reps to 20kg dumbell rows x20 reps, ie +10kg on this movement. No other strength gains whatsoever, what would the resulting muscle weight/bodyweight increase be for this strength gain?


There is literally no way to answer that question. The answer would depend on way too many variables for anyone to even give a rough estimate.
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
July 16 2012 09:26 GMT
#5375
legs, squats and biceps for today.

Squat:
5x 120kg
5x 150kg
5x 170kg
5x 180kg
4x 200kg (PR) in reps.
Stay strong, forever strong!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 16 2012 11:35 GMT
#5376
phyre have you had like 4 days off (and to reset your sleep)? might work. you can call in sick from work too if you havent done that for a while
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 16 2012 11:41 GMT
#5377
yesterday

bench 75kg 5-5-6-6 . almost back up to 80 -___-

today...can fit in 30 mins for deadlift i think then do workout B tomorrow
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 16 2012 11:56 GMT
#5378
Think my office-chair is screwing up my back. Went into saturday feeling fine but after having spent my entire weekend playing LoL my lower back hurting me :/ Kinda figures, gonna do deadlifts this evening. I'm so over working out in the morning.

LoL is a good game though.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:58:12
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#5379
I've just come back from the physio. Unlike most physios, this one seemed to know what she was doing. She had me go through all the normal weightlifting movements and pointed out that my right shoulder consistently rests a bit lower than my left shoulder. Turns out my right trapezius muscle is useless. I can easily activate my left trap and move my left shoulder blade, but to move my right shoulder blade I use all the muscles except my trapezius. Anyway, that might have caused me to hurt my neck (which is now much better) and it is most likely the cause of my right arm's shoulder and elbow injuries.

To remedy this I was given a few movements to practise that should teach me how to activate my right trap. I was also told I need to do some trap exercises, anyone have any suggestions? I thought about doing light rows and assisted pull-ups where I focus on activating my traps, but I'm open to suggestions
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 16 2012 15:00 GMT
#5380
Shrugs and presses?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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