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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
November 07 2011 15:20 GMT
#21
Well if you actually think of it as a diet product, you should think again.
Drinking 8 cans a day is definitely NOT good for you. Water is the way to go, and it's free.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
November 07 2011 16:48 GMT
#22
On November 07 2011 17:34 Klogon wrote:
decafchicken, do you drink your coffee decaf?


I feel about decaf coffee the same way i feel about non-alcoholic beer. What's the point? I do eat my chicken decaf though.
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Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
November 07 2011 16:49 GMT
#23
8 cans O_O?

You should be in some kind of diet soda study lol. That much soda will definitely fuck up your teeth at the very least
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 07 2011 18:02 GMT
#24
Only good drinks =

water
tea
coffee

avoid everything else
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 07 2011 18:12 GMT
#25
and beer.
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SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
November 07 2011 18:18 GMT
#26
Soda is bad for you, diet or not. The artificial sweeteners and syrups that are put in them are just no good. Drink your water people!
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
November 07 2011 18:19 GMT
#27
I am a recovering diet soda fiend. Here are just some of the reasons you shouldn't drink it:

1) Frequent exposure to diet soda's acidity is not good for teeth.

2) If you drink diet cola (Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, etc.) it contains phosphoric acid which can cause problems with calcium deposition in bones, teeth, etc, beyond just the basic acidity of soda from its carbonation.

3) That shit is expensive. I have probably spent several thousand USD over the past decade on diet soda.

4) Aspartame contains aspartic acid, and since aspartame is such a simple molecule, contributes to high levels of free aspartic acid in the gut. Aspartic acid can act as an excitotoxin (similar to the free glutamate in MSG), crossing the blood/brain barrier and leading to a host of problems. You often hear of former diet soda addicts who report that after stopping they don't feel as depressed, "cloudy," or are free of a host of other mental symptoms. These people are almost always sensitive to excitotoxins.

5) Even though it's free of sugar, lots of new research is suggesting that your brain still perceives diet soda as a "high reward food," and as such large consumption of diet soda can actually cause your body to store more fat (altering its so-called "setpoint") and to crave high reward foods. In this way diet soda can actually be both addictive and detrimental to efforts to eat well and be healthy.

I found it incredibly difficult to quit at first (I went cold turkey, and recommend it to those looking to stop), but haven't had any in nearly two months now. I find my sweet cravings are very much reduced and that "real" food actually tastes much better now, and I'm more able to appreciate subtle flavors and the natural sweetness that is in normal food.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 18:30:19
November 07 2011 18:27 GMT
#28
Soda is pretty damn bad. I'd scale it just below smoking as the number 2 health hazard in normal modern Western society.

It's not just the sugar, it's the gross syrups and not to mention the ridiculous amount of sodium in soda's that are bad. And artificial sweeteners? I think the name of it basically explains everything.

Also, these 'studies' that show aspartame is not as bad? Can't see that being true ever. There are also studies that show that by drinking diet soda's you actually get sugar cravings more because your body thinks it's getting sugar but it really isn't so it craves the junk. Not saying this is true per se, but it makes you think about if aspartame is good or not.

Or what Ingenol said. Avoid the junk.
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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
November 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#29
On November 08 2011 03:19 Ingenol wrote:
5) Even though it's free of sugar, lots of new research is suggesting that your brain still perceives diet soda as a "high reward food," and as such large consumption of diet soda can actually cause your body to store more fat (altering its so-called "setpoint") and to crave high reward foods. In this way diet soda can actually be both addictive and detrimental to efforts to eat well and be healthy.


I think this point is really big, especially for those who are trying to diet properly. Your body become accustomed to a pretty high level of sweetness, and so it becomes a lot harder to resist the cravings. 8 cans per day is a lot, I would definitely recommend at least toning down the quantity.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#30
If you're going to drink soda, diet is the only way to go.

I find it silly people are citing bad reasons such as 'it can make you crave more sweets!' as if some how just straight up injesting 200+ calories by drinking a normal soda is better than the -potential- to be mentally weak and break from your diet by drinking too much diet soda.


But alas, soda isn't ever really GOOD for you, diet or not. If you're serious about losing weight i'd just stick to water. If you have to cheat and drink soda make sure it's diet.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#31
issues with diet soda:

- supposed carcinogenic effect of some sweeteners (tested in rats and some proof found)
- drinking "sweet" drinks even if they have no calories themselves has been linked to weight gain because the sweetness makes you want to eat more (lots of studies)
- rots your teeth (seriously); the acid in the soda will destroy the enamel on your teeth (use a straw is what my oral hygienist told me)
- yellow dye no. 5 shrinks your balls (what i was told in high school; not sure what to think)
- caffeine can cause certain health problems and is addictive; drink a lot of caffeine for a week and see what happens when you quit cold turkey.

i drink a lot of diet mt dew, which has a ton of caffeine, but is awesome. i am trying to cut down, but its just so damn good.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
November 07 2011 21:14 GMT
#32
I drink diet soda (used to drink regular) but diet soda doesnt fuck up your blood-sugar levels the way normal soda does with the sugar.

Optimal would be to drink only water though
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
November 07 2011 21:22 GMT
#33
On November 08 2011 06:09 crms wrote:
I find it silly people are citing bad reasons such as 'it can make you crave more sweets!' as if some how just straight up injesting 200+ calories by drinking a normal soda is better than the -potential- to be mentally weak and break from your diet by drinking too much diet soda.


The argument was not targeted towards describing why diet soda is better than normal soda. Even if it's not as bad as normal soda for dieting, it's still bad.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 07 2011 21:52 GMT
#34
On November 08 2011 06:22 Slithe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 06:09 crms wrote:
I find it silly people are citing bad reasons such as 'it can make you crave more sweets!' as if some how just straight up injesting 200+ calories by drinking a normal soda is better than the -potential- to be mentally weak and break from your diet by drinking too much diet soda.


The argument was not targeted towards describing why diet soda is better than normal soda. Even if it's not as bad as normal soda for dieting, it's still bad.


I wasn't directing at you, sorry if it seemed that way. Others in this thread have advocated regular soda over diet for this reason, as well as some deluded coworkers of mine..

Anyway, I agree, soda of any type is bad for a dieter!
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GregtehGerg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 22:11:19
November 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#35
I did my best not to click on the link for this thread but I could not resist,

I am a food science major at Ohio State university and I would like to make a few points. Everything I'm about to list is the majority opinion of the food scientist community and to the best of our scientific knowledge is correct.

- An average person must drink 17 cans worth of diet soda, every day of the year, in order for aspartame to begin to build up in their system.
- The studies done on rats showed cancerous growth when they were fed the aspartame equivalent of 500 cans of diet soda per day. The validity of these tests has also been doubted. There have also been tests done that have shown no link between aspartame and cancerous growth.
- No artificial sweetener currently on the market has been linked to cancerous growth or any other side effect in a reputable study. What i mean by this is any study that has been done and shown side effects of artificial sweeteners, has not been able to be replicated by other researchers.


Personal opinion (based on scientific knowledge):

Diet sodas are fine to drink if you so choose.


Any questions feel free to PM me
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
November 07 2011 21:58 GMT
#36
With diet soda all the arguments seem to be on "How severe are the negative health consequences from drinking it". There's no chance that its doing you any good. Just stick with milk and water. I stopped drinking all soda and diet soda near the start of last year. Ended up getting a free cup of coke a month ago, decided to try it, tasted awful. You only want it because you're so used to it.
BlissX1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States328 Posts
November 07 2011 22:00 GMT
#37
soda in general is bad.... a true body builder will probably only drink green tea(no sugar), water, and milk. Protein shakes are optional for those with busy busy lives.
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two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
November 07 2011 22:25 GMT
#38
Yeah I drink like 3 cans a day, and I've always been paranoid about what it does, but reading Greg's post, as well as an incredible amount online, you're pretty safe unless you inject gallons of it into your bloodstream.

Everyone saying "it's sweet and makes you want to eat sweet things" - that's just silly. If you are so mentally weak that you're going to give in to cravings, you're obviously not ready for a diet.

I've actually had the exact opposite reaction. Because I can drink diet coke, I don't crave sweets or fat things, because I enjoy the taste of diet coke, so I don't miss the other tastes. Because of diet coke I've lost 42 lbs in the last 6 weeks.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
November 07 2011 22:33 GMT
#39
On November 08 2011 07:25 two.watup wrote:
Yeah I drink like 3 cans a day, and I've always been paranoid about what it does, but reading Greg's post, as well as an incredible amount online, you're pretty safe unless you inject gallons of it into your bloodstream.

Everyone saying "it's sweet and makes you want to eat sweet things" - that's just silly. If you are so mentally weak that you're going to give in to cravings, you're obviously not ready for a diet.

I've actually had the exact opposite reaction. Because I can drink diet coke, I don't crave sweets or fat things, because I enjoy the taste of diet coke, so I don't miss the other tastes. Because of diet coke I've lost 42 lbs in the last 6 weeks.

i wonder how much more you would lose if you drank water!
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
November 07 2011 22:38 GMT
#40
On November 08 2011 07:33 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 07:25 two.watup wrote:
Yeah I drink like 3 cans a day, and I've always been paranoid about what it does, but reading Greg's post, as well as an incredible amount online, you're pretty safe unless you inject gallons of it into your bloodstream.

Everyone saying "it's sweet and makes you want to eat sweet things" - that's just silly. If you are so mentally weak that you're going to give in to cravings, you're obviously not ready for a diet.

I've actually had the exact opposite reaction. Because I can drink diet coke, I don't crave sweets or fat things, because I enjoy the taste of diet coke, so I don't miss the other tastes. Because of diet coke I've lost 42 lbs in the last 6 weeks.

i wonder how much more you would lose if you drank water!

None, diet coke doesn't have any calories.

And I do drink water.
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