EPTDiet Soda ok or bad? - Page 3
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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CCitrus
Canada164 Posts
I used to drink 2-3 cans of Diet Coke a day, mostly for the fizzy cold but eventually because I loved the taste. I had convinced myself that nothing was wrong with the stuff but after a couple years I started getting headaches whenever I drank it. It got really bad and so I quit. Nowadays, half a can of Diet Coke will trigger a headache, as will 2+ sticks of aspartame-containing gum. I think the jury's still out on aspartame. However, I get the feeling that in 30 years we'll look back at aspartame like we look back at some of the pharmaceuticals of our grandparents' era. | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
FDA officials describe aspartame as "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved" and its safety is "clear cut". The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a non-nutritive sweetener. You might have a bad reaction to artificial sweeteners, but aspartame doesn't do anything to the brain that sugar doesn't. The only thing people have to criticize aspartame is that it metabolizes into Formaldehyde, but the quantity is several hundred times less than the amount the human body naturally produces anyway. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
Like everything, just use in moderation. 8 diet sodas is way fucking much, even if you drank that amount in water (3/4 gallon, or over 2 liters) you'll be going for a piss every hour. Unless you exercise and sweat a lot every day. | ||
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CSD
United States13 Posts
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Obstikal
616 Posts
On November 08 2011 07:25 two.watup wrote: Everyone saying "it's sweet and makes you want to eat sweet things" - that's just silly. If you are so mentally weak that you're going to give in to cravings, you're obviously not ready for a diet. It's pretty silly that you would even call people mentally weak just because they give in on cravings. A majority of people go on diets for more personal reasons like health related issues or w/e. They are not body builders or athletes where so much depends on not giving into cravings. Its down right stupid to call someone mentally weak because they give into a craving. Diets are extremely hard to follow because its a 24hour thing we have to abide to not a few hours a week commitment to the gym or to studying. It's every moment we are awake. And to say someone is not ready for a diet just doesn't make sense. Maybe you have the capabilities to resist urges easily but the same doesn't go for someone whose been on a shitty diet eating sugar and fats all day. Yes, eating or drinking something sweet may cause people to eat more sweet things because sometimes when someone eats a lot of sugar its not easy to drink a diet soda and have a slight taste of sweetness and have that sooth the craving. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
having said that, i have been drinking purely water (water ONLY) for about a yr now. On November 09 2011 12:15 LightningStrike wrote: Diet soda is very bad for you since Aspartame accualy makes to get more fat absorbant said my chemistary teacher so ya diet soda are not good for you after all lol........... that is completely untrue tell your teacher they are a fucking idiot | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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TheToaster
United States280 Posts
My basic philosophy is to eat and drink not with moderation, but with extreme variety. If I'm drinking all of these other types of beverages, it doesn't really matter what can be found in Diet Coke, because it will take an entire cycle through all the other beverage choices before I feel like drinking soda again. But I still have no idea why people become completely dependent on coffee. If you really need caffeine for everyday reasons that badly, try getting medication from a doctor. Lack of sleep is a medical issue, so fixing it with an over the counter substance like coffee is just ridiculous. On a side note, I find it sad that most convenient stores sell basically 100% carbonated drinks and nothing else. It's easy to get the good stuff while shopping in a grocery store, but after a workout or run, it would be nice to stop by a gas station and know I can get something that will actually hydrate me. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
8 cans is way to much also. You can expect teeth decay to start with. No amount of oral hygiene will prevent that with that kind of nutrition. Basically Diet sodas aren't better then normal once (worse even by some). And normal once are horrible, horrible for your oral and general health. Get used to drinking water/lemonade/tea...... EDIT: For people addicted to caffeine part in coffee/sodas, try black tea (i dislike it personally). It has ~5x more caffeine then coffee. | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On November 09 2011 14:21 slytown wrote: I know the OP is thinking about direct health effects of diet soda but you should also consider how diet soda is made. Like most processed foods, diet soda is composed of corn by-product. HFC is a common American industrial glucose because takes away from the sugar production of countries like Brazil. The environmental effect, however, is an inordinate amount of corn production over multi-cultivation. By forcing much of American farm production into corn and soybeans, the land becomes monocultured and less likely to produce over time, where polyculture statistically is a more stable and environmentally friendly type of production. Unfortunately, politics, industry, and modern consumerism favor monoculture. HFC is not in diet soda because it is hFRUCTOSEc. it counts as a carbohydrate and works almost exactly like one, except it is worse for you than normal fructose or sucrose. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On November 08 2011 07:25 two.watup wrote: Everyone saying "it's sweet and makes you want to eat sweet things" - that's just silly. If you are so mentally weak that you're going to give in to cravings, you're obviously not ready for a diet. You know, funnily enough you can replace the sweets with diet soda and get the exact same statement. If someone truly wants to lose weight they should have no problems drinking only water. | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Anyway, looking at the thread it seems like drinking diet sodas are not terribly harmful, but also not good for you. As such, drinking diet sodas in moderation is probably fine if you enjoy them. | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On November 09 2011 12:10 Obstikal wrote: It's pretty silly that you would even call people mentally weak just because they give in on cravings. A majority of people go on diets for more personal reasons like health related issues or w/e. They are not body builders or athletes where so much depends on not giving into cravings. Its down right stupid to call someone mentally weak because they give into a craving. Diets are extremely hard to follow because its a 24hour thing we have to abide to not a few hours a week commitment to the gym or to studying. It's every moment we are awake. And to say someone is not ready for a diet just doesn't make sense. Maybe you have the capabilities to resist urges easily but the same doesn't go for someone whose been on a shitty diet eating sugar and fats all day. Yes, eating or drinking something sweet may cause people to eat more sweet things because sometimes when someone eats a lot of sugar its not easy to drink a diet soda and have a slight taste of sweetness and have that sooth the craving. You assume I'm one of the fitness assholes here lol, while flattering, I'm sorry to disappoint you. I've been overweight most of my life. It sucked, and two months ago I decided to stop it. I made the choice to stop eating shitty things, so I haven't eaten shitty things, and now I've lost 45 lbs, and I'm 15 lbs from my goal. I don't crave shitty food anymore. The taste of gaining weight isn't attractive. I can't imagine driving to McDonalds, or Wawa, and buying shit or candy. It's just disgusting to me. Anyone can make that choice. It's a choice. You just don't eat stupid shit. It's the easiest thing I've ever done. You aren't addicted to shitty food, you don't have to eat it. That's a terrible cop out, and as someone who used to choose to eat poorly as well, I won't accept that. On November 09 2011 19:21 Sneakyz wrote: You know, funnily enough you can replace the sweets with diet soda and get the exact same statement. If someone truly wants to lose weight they should have no problems drinking only water. The point is that Diet Coke isn't bad for you, so there's no reason not to drink it. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On November 09 2011 21:25 Daigomi wrote: This is honestly one of the worst threads in the HF forum. 95% anecdotal evidence or hearsay. Even worse, people aren't answering the question the OP posed either. The question wasn't "Is drinking diet soda's part of an optimal diet?" or "Are diet soda's good for you?". The OP clearly enjoys drinking diet soda and simply wanted to know if drinking diet soda is terrible for you or ok. Suggesting that the OP simply drinks water and milk because it's better for him doesn't answer his question at all. Anyway, looking at the thread it seems like drinking diet sodas are not terribly harmful, but also not good for you. As such, drinking diet sodas in moderation is probably fine if you enjoy them. It is terrible for you. As i said, in the amount he does it, if nothing else, his teeth will start falling out. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On November 09 2011 21:51 Gotmog wrote: It is terrible for you. As i said, in the amount he does it, if nothing else, his teeth will start falling out. Which is why I said drinking it "in moderation" is probably ok for you. Other than water and milk, there are very few things you can consume 2.8l/2.8kg a day of without it being bad for you. From the evidence in this thread, it doesn't seem like drinking 500ml a day will be "terrible" for you. Once again, it's not good for you but in terms of unhealthy behaviours, it doesn't seem to be particularly serious (as opposed to drinking, smoking, eating pizzas by yourself, etc.). | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On November 09 2011 21:49 two.watup wrote: You assume I'm one of the fitness assholes here lol, while flattering, I'm sorry to disappoint you. I've been overweight most of my life. It sucked, and two months ago I decided to stop it. I made the choice to stop eating shitty things, so I haven't eaten shitty things, and now I've lost 45 lbs, and I'm 15 lbs from my goal. I don't crave shitty food anymore. The taste of gaining weight isn't attractive. I can't imagine driving to McDonalds, or Wawa, and buying shit or candy. It's just disgusting to me. Anyone can make that choice. It's a choice. You just don't eat stupid shit. It's the easiest thing I've ever done. You aren't addicted to shitty food, you don't have to eat it. That's a terrible cop out, and as someone who used to choose to eat poorly as well, I won't accept that. The point is that Diet Coke isn't bad for you, so there's no reason not to drink it. sorry I am going to go offtopic and ignore most of the posts and not contribute anything, but I had to say this. SUP WAWA. shit is fucking cash. only reason I wish I were back in new jersey. that and the vicinity to NY. | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On November 09 2011 16:33 Gotmog wrote: EDIT: For people addicted to caffeine part in coffee/sodas, try black tea (i dislike it personally). It has ~5x more caffeine then coffee. I'm sorry, this is incorrect, Pound for pound maybe.. but you need a lot more coffee than tea to make a cup of coffee. A cup of coffee has roughly twice as much caffeine as a cup of black tea. | ||
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