EPTDiet Soda ok or bad? - Page 4
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Dbla08
United States211 Posts
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
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TheDominator
New Zealand336 Posts
On November 07 2011 21:16 windzor wrote: So, Diet Coca cola has Aspartame which in the body chemistry is decomposted into methanol, which is the really dangoures part. 10 mL of that makes you blind, yeah i'm not drinking that. Diet Pepsi, has chloride molycules attached to the sugar, chloride is known to give you cancer and other bad stuff. Not drinking that either. Sugar in normal cola / soda. Makes you fat, and if drank in absurd large amounts, but better small amounts of sugar than the other things.. But if you really think of stuff like that, don't drink soda! I think you worded this slightly wrong, because half of normal salt is chloride lol... and so we shouldn't have any salt in our diet? Also, there isn't such a thing as a "chloride molecule". Its a chlorine molecule. Hmmm unless I'm missing something here.... | ||
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Share_The_Land
Canada152 Posts
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
We would all be better off being highly active with perfect diets and no vices (smoking/drinking/etc.) but we have to pick our battles. | ||
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Suvorov
294 Posts
Diet Coke or whatever kind of 'soda drink' is far worse than its normal counterpart (and the normal one is pretty much shit already so meh) for many reasons: 1.- The artificial sweeteners in it are 10x worse than sugar. Aspartame destroys not only brain cells but impairs many bodily functions. No, this is NOT a claim as you said, it's tried and tested. The only reason aspartame, under the name of 'nutrasweet' and all those shit-brands was held back from approval from many years is because all the test animals that were subjected to it suffered a terrible fate. But, you know, there's nothing lobbying and shitloads of money can't do so, 10+ years later, their buddies in the FDA gave them the green lights. 2.- Even if its not actual sugar, chemically it acts much the same, firing up your pancreas to produce insulin, which in turn leads us back to diabetes and all that crap - insulin insensitivity, you name it. 3.- Its a filled with toxins, which the body flushes out sure, but at the expense of many key nutrients such as calcium. 4.- It's addictive, it messes with your brain's chemistry so as to create the 'i need more impulse'. No surprise you're having 8 cans a day, that's the whole purpose behind it. 5.- It's depressive, it gives you a 5 minute energy boost due to the sugar rise but then, insulin is released and down you go into a slow, lazy, depressing set of feelings and lack of energy altogether. In a nutshell, go ahead and drink poison just remember you'll lose the right to be 'surprised' several years down the road when the bill comes to bite you in the ass. Since we're all SC fans here, I'll use a SC analogy. Yes, a single marine won't take down a battlecruiser, archon or ultralisk in one shot, however, keep at it and soon enough it'll die just the same. All those nice little cans you're gulping down every day are consistently hacking away at your system. | ||
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Autofire2
Pakistan290 Posts
I mean hell, I smoke half a pack a day. Diet coke isn't my biggest vice at all. But I would never try and defend smoking, because there are studies out there which show how bad your cardiovascular system can get over a period of time. Where are the equivalents for Aspartame? That substance has been tested out the wazoo for decades. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On November 09 2011 21:51 Gotmog wrote: It is terrible for you. As i said, in the amount he does it, if nothing else, his teeth will start falling out. This is just untrue. When i was obese I had a regular coke habit WAY more severe than 8 cans a day for years and years. I have a full mouth of pearly whit original teeth, have never even had a cavity (i still drink diet cola today, although way less than my old habit). Me and my friends used to drink cola by the case and their dental health is similar to my knowledge. Moving away from that was a huge part of me losing over 100 lbs and diet is how i made the transition and reduction. Id be very interested to see a study done on people who drink a lot of soda but brush and floss a healthy amount. I can only speak to my experience but id be amazed if the results are anything close to this doomsday scenario. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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Sebby Lebby
68 Posts
I know it may be seen as trolling, and the answer is just above (and in the thread I guess), but I really have to ask why people don't just drink water? I drink like 1.5-2+ litres a day of it, it makes me feel great. I know you can get acclimated to sodas, juices, etc. but when I drink that stuff I either get a headache, nausia, or I get pretty tired within 30-60 minutes, whereas water truly refreshes me. I have to think that people who don't feel these effects still aren't escaping totally unscathed, or maybe it's somehow good for them to become strong against those kinds of drinks. I think if you can handle a can of normal soda then you have really pushed your body out of bounds a bit, and if you can't stand to drink a bottle of water then that's a little weird. I mean, this is a site full of people who have become able to do amazing, painful, high endurance, high training things, either in BW, SC2, sports, studies, etc. Why not build up your ability to drink plain ol' water? Then again maybe I just am unlucky that caffeine makes me crash so hard, sweaty, and get headaches. If I could (ab)use caffeine like a lot of these people maybe I'd have an even easier time working, etc. But this is a healthy forum thing right, shouldn't we all like, drink water and exercise--caffeine still plays a big role for a lot of you? I'm really curious. But anyways glad to hear that diet soda is not as bad as I thought, I may drink some when I am bored and see what's up. Healthier than iced vanilla lattes apparently. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 08 2011 03:02 eshlow wrote: Only good drinks = water tea coffee avoid everything else ^^ | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On November 08 2011 03:19 Ingenol wrote: I found it incredibly difficult to quit at first (I went cold turkey, and recommend it to those looking to stop), but haven't had any in nearly two months now. I find my sweet cravings are very much reduced and that "real" food actually tastes much better now, and I'm more able to appreciate subtle flavors and the natural sweetness that is in normal food. Yep, definitely the best way. I was a little chubby back in grade 10 (~180 lb 5'11 not a lot of muscles i wouldn't think) and during the summer, I just quit coke cold turkey from about 4 cans a day, had probably less than 50 cans since (excluding mixed drinks), and it's been... over nine years. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On November 11 2011 10:34 Velocirapture wrote: This is just untrue. When i was obese I had a regular coke habit WAY more severe than 8 cans a day for years and years. I have a full mouth of pearly whit original teeth, have never even had a cavity (i still drink diet cola today, although way less than my old habit). Me and my friends used to drink cola by the case and their dental health is similar to my knowledge. Moving away from that was a huge part of me losing over 100 lbs and diet is how i made the transition and reduction. Id be very interested to see a study done on people who drink a lot of soda but brush and floss a healthy amount. I can only speak to my experience but id be amazed if the results are anything close to this doomsday scenario. I have no way of knowing if this is true. So, the first thought in my mind is to just ignore it. However... There probably is a way that it is true. It'd require you to be in the area with great water (optimal fluoride count), extremely good genetics (very VERY good saliva clearens in your mouth, with nicely spaced teeth etc), lack of other bad habits + good oral hygiene. While all this might be true for you, i doubt its true for all your other friends, nor that you personally know their oral state. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:08 Daigomi wrote: Which is why I said drinking it "in moderation" is probably ok for you. Other than water and milk, there are very few things you can consume 2.8l/2.8kg a day of without it being bad for you. From the evidence in this thread, it doesn't seem like drinking 500ml a day will be "terrible" for you. Once again, it's not good for you but in terms of unhealthy behaviours, it doesn't seem to be particularly serious (as opposed to drinking, smoking, eating pizzas by yourself, etc.). Well...anything you put in your body has a toxic threshold ofc (including water in obscene amount). So yeah, drinking a can of soda won't be bad. Problem is that moderation is a vague term. While a dr might consider moderation once a week, someone else might think its 1/day. So I'd say that OP would be ok cutting from 8>1/day, and try to drink it during the meal (or around the meal), notbetween them. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
Anyway, coca cola, pepsi or whatever tastes like crap. I've drank them a handful of times through the last few years, and I don't like the taste at all anymore, probably because I'm not hooked on caffeine anymore. It tastes like sugar and water pretty much. There's a swedish soft drink called Trocadero, which has caffeine, but also have tastes of apple and orange, and I still find that drink to be quite tasty. This proves that I'm not anti-coke just because I know what's in it. I can honestly say that it tastes bad. So, my tip is to exchange the caffeinated drinks for regular soda. That will make it easier to get off caffeine, and then eventually you will hopefully stop drinking entirely. At the very least you will start drinking more in moderation. That's something I can guarantee if you get off the caffeine. I will never introduce a caffeinated drink to my future kids. I will not abolish such drinks entirely, because I don't believe in having complete control over another persons life, but I will make sure that they know what they are drinking. I think parents are very irresponsible concerning caffeinated drinks. Most parents don't even give this a thought. I don't really know why, but I'm guessing it's because most adults are hooked on coffee or tea. Caffeine is truly the invisible drug. | ||
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dOofuS
United States342 Posts
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On November 07 2011 15:39 Tiamat wrote: Aside from the claims that Aspartame can kill you, are there any reasons why a Diet soda is bad for you? I drink about 8 cans of diet soda a day, and I am sure its for caffeine related addictions, but I do urinate clear at least three times a day, thats good right? I'm not sure if there's anything specific to diet soda that is bad for you as far as I know, but drinking 8 cans a day of ANY SODA is bad for you. Soda is acidic, so if you drink that much everyday your going to burn through your teeth. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
tl;dr is it's safe. IMO though you should get used to water if you can. It will save a lot of money (since water is cheaper [assuming it's not expensive bottled water >.>]). Edit - Also there is a Caffeine free version of diet soda usually. I tried it and I like it. IMO though don't depend on caffeine from diet soda to keep you awake or anything. The amount of caffeine in diet soda is really small compared to coffee (most cups of coffee like from Starbucks or McDonalds have at least 10x the amount of caffeine). | ||
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tests
United States160 Posts
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On November 12 2011 22:55 Gotmog wrote: I have no way of knowing if this is true. So, the first thought in my mind is to just ignore it. However... There probably is a way that it is true. It'd require you to be in the area with great water (optimal fluoride count), extremely good genetics (very VERY good saliva clearens in your mouth, with nicely spaced teeth etc), lack of other bad habits + good oral hygiene. While all this might be true for you, i doubt its true for all your other friends, nor that you personally know their oral state. When I mentioned my friend's oral health I was stating that they have not had any major problems (missing teeth, extreme discoloration/things I would notice) and I think somebody has wound you pretty tight around some strange Ideas to think 8 cans will dissolve your face (with normal healthy oral care). I can only speak from my own experience, but I am yet so see a study that shows such disastrous outcomes and if peoples teeth were falling out left and right (a couple liters a day of cola is a surprisingly common habit) Id expect to find some. It is definitely not healthy, but other than off white teeth, caffeine issues and slightly higher incidences of tooth decay complications I dont see an issue until proven otherwise. | ||
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