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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 13 2013 14:00 GMT
#661
Looks good, remember to push your knees back at the start though.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
capu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 17:30:40
March 13 2013 17:23 GMT
#662
what do you mean? how?

edit: to add some more meat to my post

I didn't quite understand the movement leading to the power position in the Don's video I posted. I tried to check out some picture sequences but I think in none of them lifters had their back like that and the actual pull seems so short, or is the pull after the 'power positon' just the last shrug before going under?

also do you really have to use your lats like that leading up to the 2nd pull? at least I dont do a concscious effort using them like that and one would think when the weights get heavier you don't even have to press the bar closer to you with your lats.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
March 13 2013 18:01 GMT
#663
I don't consciously think about using my lats to keep the bar close. How long the pull is varies lifter to lifter but in general you don't want to waste time pulling when you should be getting under the bar
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 13 2013 18:11 GMT
#664
your pull looks good. Using the lats is a cue to keep the bar close and you look fine so dont worry about it.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 04:21:25
March 18 2013 04:20 GMT
#665
few vids from the gym:


how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
March 18 2013 08:28 GMT
#666
^ nice vids. Need to see more max-out vids doe
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
March 18 2013 09:38 GMT
#667
So fast hang snatch! Looks like a great gym.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
March 18 2013 16:38 GMT
#668
Pffff that's easy haha Hit a PR snatch of 72.5kg, (7.5kg PR). Me and my training partner set goals for one month from today. Aiming for an 80kg snatch, 105kg C&J and 150kg squat. gogog
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
March 18 2013 18:06 GMT
#669
On March 18 2013 17:28 Entropic wrote:
^ nice vids. Need to see more max-out vids doe

haha 130 is only 6kg off from PR (no straps). went for 135 and missed.
the girl taking pics and vids had packed up by the time i was going for 150kg cj (which took me three attempts. almost unheared of for me )

Coach wants me to start doing 10 singles of FS in the 170-180 range in ten minutes and ~200kg for back squats and back off the max efforts Gonna start doing that for a while and see how that goes.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 19 2013 00:15 GMT
#670
I tried going heavier singles for a month and my squat went down lol.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
March 19 2013 02:13 GMT
#671
haha well going to max has been working well for me but he wants me to focus more on technique, squat is high enough where i should be hitting 170-180 cj with better technique.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Dewski
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 07:41:12
March 20 2013 02:52 GMT
#672


My meet.
"Others don't understand because I train every day of my life as they have never trained a day in their's." Александр Александрович Карелин
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
March 20 2013 13:31 GMT
#673
On March 19 2013 11:13 decafchicken wrote:
haha well going to max has been working well for me but he wants me to focus more on technique, squat is high enough where i should be hitting 170-180 cj with better technique.


Same with me. Maxing out at least 3-4 times a week on the lifts + squats has worked well for me, I haven't been train that long though so I'll see how it goes in the future. My rule of thumb is that if my CJ is <80% of my best FS then I back off the squats (to only 3x a week, same intensity, cut volume/frequency) and focus on the classical lifts and technique.

Currently writing a major part of my honour thesis atm so I have only been training once a week (snatch/cj/fs then gtfo every friday) for March... haven't lost any strength so far but ofc no gains either. Should be able to start getting back into things in April.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 20 2013 13:42 GMT
#674
nice lifting dewski!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 01:50:08
March 24 2013 01:39 GMT
#675
So waayyyyy back in mid December I was doing some light jerks for technique work with 205lbs and my knee hyperextended really badly on a really long split. I felt almost no pain that day, just a numbness and some tingling. It proceeded to get progressively worse and worse as I continued to train on it before finally stopping training entirely in January. Fast forward to Thursday this week, and I finally went to a sports medicine doctor to have it checked out. They did a series of tests to see about the joints ROM and where I experienced pain. Most felt nothing, but a few were excruciating. There was some long term damage to my patellar tendon. I was prescribed some stronger NSAIDs than you can get OTC, and referred to 4 weeks of physical therapy which will include the ultrasound treatment. I should be returning to training as soon as the physical therapy is done.

Doc also told me to stop split jerking and avoid any lunging or internal hip rotation, as this tends to be what causes knee problems. I'll have to switch to power or squat jerk and my right knee is likely to be permanently weaker than my left.

All that said I can't wait to return to this sport at long last. I've been doing a lot of upper body/bbing training over the 12-14 weeks I haven't been doing oly, so I'm going to look fucking swole while I'm totaling under 200kg. CGBPed 225x7 with hands in the smooth and did bw+70lbs pullups for 3 sets of 5 weighing 207.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 24 2013 01:59 GMT
#676
get better soon
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
March 24 2013 02:41 GMT
#677
On March 24 2013 10:59 AoN.DimSum wrote:
get better soon

Heh... right now I'm optimistic as fuck. What's another 4 weeks when I've already been waiting for like 13? I'm just glad I won't need surgery or heavy corticosteroids (though I believe some mild corticosteroids are part of the ultrasound treatment).


Gettin all kinds of swole helps too.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
March 24 2013 04:28 GMT
#678
Hey Drowsy, you hang in there. That sounds similar to my case maybe a bit over half a year ago. I've always been weak in the front squat and when I was doing them before, I'd let my knees cave in as I got fatigued. One day, I felt a pop in my left knee which was fine immediately after but from that point on I had pain in the area as soon as I squat past parallel. Kinda ignored it for a few weeks before getting scared and visited a physiotherapist with the advice of my coach. When the physio said I probably just irritated the meniscus and did not do any real damage to it, I was so relieved. I had to stop split jerking as well because the injured knee is the same one that goes to the back for me since it'd hurt when turned in for the split. I have to say, because of that incident and switching to the power jerk, it has actually helped immensely with learning to dip straight and stay on my heels for the jerk. Now my knee has long healed and I can play around with the split jerk if I choose to but I'm so used to the power now my split jerk is actually worse so I won't use it for anything other than to play around.
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 05:57:28
March 24 2013 05:55 GMT
#679
On March 24 2013 13:28 MeShiet wrote:
Hey Drowsy, you hang in there. That sounds similar to my case maybe a bit over half a year ago. I've always been weak in the front squat and when I was doing them before, I'd let my knees cave in as I got fatigued. One day, I felt a pop in my left knee which was fine immediately after but from that point on I had pain in the area as soon as I squat past parallel. Kinda ignored it for a few weeks before getting scared and visited a physiotherapist with the advice of my coach. When the physio said I probably just irritated the meniscus and did not do any real damage to it, I was so relieved. I had to stop split jerking as well because the injured knee is the same one that goes to the back for me since it'd hurt when turned in for the split. I have to say, because of that incident and switching to the power jerk, it has actually helped immensely with learning to dip straight and stay on my heels for the jerk. Now my knee has long healed and I can play around with the split jerk if I choose to but I'm so used to the power now my split jerk is actually worse so I won't use it for anything other than to play around.



Yeah man, that does indeed sound extremely similar to what happened to me. It was so weird because right afterword it felt fine and I even finished my workout and did my front squats with no pain. Then when I woke up the next morning it hurt a little bit, but I figured it was nothing and kept training on it. Then over the course of the next few training sessions it spiraled out of control and got very painful. Mine was right below the knee cap so I could rule out the meniscus right away.


I'm not so worried about switching to the power jerk, I was considering it even before the injury. I was always able to power jerk ~92-95% of my split and squat jerk 85% of it. I always had a lot of problems with lumbar hypermobility and tended to lean back when receiving my jerks in the split. I never had this problem power jerking, which makes sense because your hips naturally have to shoot back when receiving the bar in power or squat jerks. Even though I could do more weight splitting, my lockouts were always a hell of a lot better power jerking.


+ Power jerking a given weight is simply less fatiguing than splitting and equivalent weight and that's always nice.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
March 26 2013 03:08 GMT
#680
One question: assuming you're training 3-4 days a week, how much should I be aiming to squat to prevent my squat from going down? I've been doing 3 sets of five for back squat on monday and friday at the end of training (after snatch and c&j) and I'm doing around 85-90% of my best set of five but the weight feels really really heavy and I've been missing some reps. Should I keep doing it this way or maybe take one training and do squats first with fresh legs?
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