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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 04 2013 13:19 GMT
#1021
On September 04 2013 05:46 lannisport wrote:
Okay so I fell off my motorcycle today taking a turn too sharply. Luckily things didn;t turn out too bad but I' worried about my wrist. It looks swollen and it hurts when I do a wave or twisting motion with my hand (4/10) and there's a bit of tingling. How likely is it that I sprained my hand? I will go to a walk in clinic tomorrow because they're closed at this time. I can still type, write, use a mouse and pick up light objects (When I try to pick up my laptop with both hands theres some light pain).

Right now I'm just icing it and I took some naproxen. Hopefully tomorrow it'll feel better.


Can't really say too much because there's tons of things that could've happened. Let the professionals handle it
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grassHAT
Profile Joined December 2011
United States40 Posts
September 04 2013 21:37 GMT
#1022
Thanks for any help provided

+ Show Spoiler +
1. I don't have the resources to do this at the moment, but it is on the lower right side of my back, above my buttocks

2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
Anything involving movement of my torso will generally hurt. Moving to sit/stand/bend over. I feel like an old geezer.

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
It can be pretty sharp. If I am not doing bending too far it is usually a dull ache, but if I try something like put on my shoes it can hurt pretty bad.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
5

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
It has been on and off for about 3 weeks. I believe it is a combination of my new job (lots of sitting), combined with high weight on squats, and playing basketball, but after I play basketball is when it has hurt the most.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
When it was a dull ache I could probably keep up with squats, but more recently it has been a sharper pain, so I have not been too active.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
I don't really know how to describe this part.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Trying to be more aware of how I am sleeping and i am going to not play basketball and probably adjust my lifting routine so that I do not put much stress on my back.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Resting makes it better. Exercising makes it worse. Basketball makes it worse.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
My butt and right leg have been tight for the past few days. I have been trying to stretch more.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
It aches.
12. Any previous injury history?
No
13. How's your posture?
Decent. I have a sit/stand desk at work. I tend to lean my pelvis forward when I stand.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Squats/Romanian DLs
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I am thinking it is a pinched nerve or spinal disc injury. I will probably stretch some and see if it helps, but if you have any recommendations on adjustments I could make for a disc injury that would help.
Thanks

mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 05 2013 00:03 GMT
#1023
See if any of these describe your back pain: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/

(Website is looking good Steve!)
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 03:43:34
September 05 2013 03:34 GMT
#1024
Was reading through a bit of the hip/knee stuff and it sounds like Dan is of the opinion of not loading the knees with squats with the knee forwards and torso upright. Is this specifically to address people with knee ligament problems

On a random note read your article about the hand and fingers in the hand stand and noticed that when doing barefoot calf raises my toes automatically did that to create more balance! Science. Neat.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 05 2013 18:35 GMT
#1025
Grasshat see the above article.

Seems like it could be a SI joint issue or maybe something else. I would try the mobility stuff from the low back article and if that doesn't start helping I'd probably schedule an appointment with an orthopedic doc so you can figure out what the problem is.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 05 2013 18:35 GMT
#1026
On September 05 2013 12:34 decafchicken wrote:
Was reading through a bit of the hip/knee stuff and it sounds like Dan is of the opinion of not loading the knees with squats with the knee forwards and torso upright. Is this specifically to address people with knee ligament problems

On a random note read your article about the hand and fingers in the hand stand and noticed that when doing barefoot calf raises my toes automatically did that to create more balance! Science. Neat.


I don't understand the first question? o_O
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
September 05 2013 18:47 GMT
#1027
On September 06 2013 03:35 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 12:34 decafchicken wrote:
Was reading through a bit of the hip/knee stuff and it sounds like Dan is of the opinion of not loading the knees with squats with the knee forwards and torso upright. Is this specifically to address people with knee ligament problems

On a random note read your article about the hand and fingers in the hand stand and noticed that when doing barefoot calf raises my toes automatically did that to create more balance! Science. Neat.


I don't understand the first question? o_O


He describes loading the hips by sitting back first instead of at the knees and leading slightly forward to take pressure of the knees (and instead put it on the hips/back) opposed to the style used more commonly with olympic lifters of bending at the knees and keeping the torso upright and using the quads/glutes to drive. If i'm reading dan's words correclty it sounds like he's saying this could be bad for your knees/ligaments but I'm not sure if he's referring to healthy athletes or just rehabbing/imbalanced ones.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 06 2013 00:32 GMT
#1028
Quick questions, I'm on Day 2 of really sticking to a rehab program and being consistent. I know it's not that long but I wanted to get some feedback.
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 05 2013 02:12 mordek wrote:
Ok, posting for accountability. Trying to be more disciplined and actually work towards things I want. One of these is ridding myself of SI joint pain/issues and get back to lifting like I was. Don't want to whine about things, just let me know if you have any suggestions and if you happen to think about it days/weeks from now make sure I'm sticking with it. Consistency is the key to any progress and I know I need more in this area.

I am committing to these actions for the next 3 months.
Mobility: (at minimum but obviously longer duration / higher frequency is great)
  • Stretches
    • Couch Stretch 2 min each side
    • Lunge Stretch 2 min each side
    • Pigeon Pose 2 min each side
    • Reverse Hyper Hang 1 min
    • Bar Hang 1 min

  • Myofascial Release
    • Lacrosse Ball 5 min cumulative
      • Glutes
      • Piriformis
      • Psoas

    • Foam Roller 5 min cumulative
      • TFL
      • IT Band
      • Quads

General
  • Ice Back/Hip daily
  • Fish Oil daily

Training
  • Various upper body (normal routine)
  • Hamstring curls 3x week
  • Split Squat 3x week
  • Plank 120s min cumulative
  • Side planks 120s min cumulative each side


I really don't want to miss a day. I'll probably print out a calendar and check it off or something. Going to be tough with a baby arriving any day now but no excuses! Going to get it done, TLHF-style.

My back and hips feel great after doing this. The pain in the SI region is gone. However, this morning my tail bone feels sore, kinda like I bruised it falling on something. Is this just a small side affect of mobilization of the sacrum? I don't think I should be concerned but I'd rather head something off earlier than later
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
September 06 2013 21:59 GMT
#1029
I think I have a shin splint, it probably happened when I was running on an uneven sidewalk after a long day of exhausting work.. Didnt have running shoes on at the time. It hurts when I walk or run but hasnt been quite as bad recently, does this sound about right?
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 19 2013 05:02 GMT
#1030
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.

The proximal phalange of my left big toe.

2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html

At the moment it just passively hurts (about to go to bed) but the pain comes and goes through the day almost regardless of activity.

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?

Burning mostly with a side of sharp.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.

Maybe a 3 on average with peaks of 5 or 6

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?

It's been 2-3 weeks now.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?

Yes, some squats and deadlifts but mostly muay thai training.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.

It feels like it's in the bone almost.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?

Nothing.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?

Nothing seems to effect it really, positive or negative. I haven't trie icing it but I'd imagine it would relieve the pain.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?

Everything feels normal.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?

It hurts more at night, or at least it does tonight. I'll pay more attention to that tomorrow.

12. Any previous injury history?

No

13. How's your posture?

Good

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?

I train muay thai M/T/Th

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?

For work I put umbrellas into the beach and I would secure the sand around it usin my toes to compact the sand. I have since stopped but have not noticed a difference.

It rarely is even noticeable, just tonight for whatever reason it hurts more so I figured I'd post since it should have healed by now, whatever it is.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 19 2013 14:30 GMT
#1031
On September 06 2013 03:47 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 03:35 eshlow wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:34 decafchicken wrote:
Was reading through a bit of the hip/knee stuff and it sounds like Dan is of the opinion of not loading the knees with squats with the knee forwards and torso upright. Is this specifically to address people with knee ligament problems

On a random note read your article about the hand and fingers in the hand stand and noticed that when doing barefoot calf raises my toes automatically did that to create more balance! Science. Neat.


I don't understand the first question? o_O


He describes loading the hips by sitting back first instead of at the knees and leading slightly forward to take pressure of the knees (and instead put it on the hips/back) opposed to the style used more commonly with olympic lifters of bending at the knees and keeping the torso upright and using the quads/glutes to drive. If i'm reading dan's words correclty it sounds like he's saying this could be bad for your knees/ligaments but I'm not sure if he's referring to healthy athletes or just rehabbing/imbalanced ones.


That would be my thought... some PL style squats with very wide knees are better like this as well



On September 06 2013 09:32 mordek wrote:
Quick questions, I'm on Day 2 of really sticking to a rehab program and being consistent. I know it's not that long but I wanted to get some feedback.
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 05 2013 02:12 mordek wrote:
Ok, posting for accountability. Trying to be more disciplined and actually work towards things I want. One of these is ridding myself of SI joint pain/issues and get back to lifting like I was. Don't want to whine about things, just let me know if you have any suggestions and if you happen to think about it days/weeks from now make sure I'm sticking with it. Consistency is the key to any progress and I know I need more in this area.

I am committing to these actions for the next 3 months.
Mobility: (at minimum but obviously longer duration / higher frequency is great)
  • Stretches
    • Couch Stretch 2 min each side
    • Lunge Stretch 2 min each side
    • Pigeon Pose 2 min each side
    • Reverse Hyper Hang 1 min
    • Bar Hang 1 min

  • Myofascial Release
    • Lacrosse Ball 5 min cumulative
      • Glutes
      • Piriformis
      • Psoas

    • Foam Roller 5 min cumulative
      • TFL
      • IT Band
      • Quads

General
  • Ice Back/Hip daily
  • Fish Oil daily

Training
  • Various upper body (normal routine)
  • Hamstring curls 3x week
  • Split Squat 3x week
  • Plank 120s min cumulative
  • Side planks 120s min cumulative each side


I really don't want to miss a day. I'll probably print out a calendar and check it off or something. Going to be tough with a baby arriving any day now but no excuses! Going to get it done, TLHF-style.

My back and hips feel great after doing this. The pain in the SI region is gone. However, this morning my tail bone feels sore, kinda like I bruised it falling on something. Is this just a small side affect of mobilization of the sacrum? I don't think I should be concerned but I'd rather head something off earlier than later


Sorry didn't see this.

Looks pretty solid as long as it's keeping the SI joint stable and in place ( I don't know if it is or not but only you can probably tell or unless a PT looked at your pelvis specifically).

As far as tailbone is concerned there are a lot of muscles that connect into that area including things such as the piriformis from the sacrum to the femur so mobilization can indeed make muscles in that area sore especially if it's loosening ones that have been chronically tight.


On September 07 2013 06:59 Aveng3r wrote:
I think I have a shin splint, it probably happened when I was running on an uneven sidewalk after a long day of exhausting work.. Didnt have running shoes on at the time. It hurts when I walk or run but hasnt been quite as bad recently, does this sound about right?


Shin splints typically does not occur from one run.

It's typically indicative of crap running form (heel to toe is horrid), but it can also be an overuse injury.

I'd back off and make sure your running technique is better and work back in slow
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 19 2013 14:32 GMT
#1032
On September 19 2013 14:02 Najda wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.

The proximal phalange of my left big toe.

2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html

At the moment it just passively hurts (about to go to bed) but the pain comes and goes through the day almost regardless of activity.

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?

Burning mostly with a side of sharp.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.

Maybe a 3 on average with peaks of 5 or 6

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?

It's been 2-3 weeks now.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?

Yes, some squats and deadlifts but mostly muay thai training.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.

It feels like it's in the bone almost.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?

Nothing.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?

Nothing seems to effect it really, positive or negative. I haven't trie icing it but I'd imagine it would relieve the pain.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?

Everything feels normal.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?

It hurts more at night, or at least it does tonight. I'll pay more attention to that tomorrow.

12. Any previous injury history?

No

13. How's your posture?

Good

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?

I train muay thai M/T/Th


15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?

For work I put umbrellas into the beach and I would secure the sand around it usin my toes to compact the sand. I have since stopped but have not noticed a difference.

It rarely is even noticeable, just tonight for whatever reason it hurts more so I figured I'd post since it should have healed by now, whatever it is.


There's not enough information for me to make a guess....

I would suggest seeing an orthopedic doc for a diagnosis so you know what you're deal with...
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 20 2013 17:19 GMT
#1033
There is something wrong with the middle of my foot. Running and pressure starts making it hurt more, i even took a week off but the pain came right back. its in the middle of the front of my foot, on the bottom, near my toes. inside the foot. what is going on and how do i fix it lol
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 21 2013 02:33 GMT
#1034
On September 21 2013 02:19 travis wrote:
There is something wrong with the middle of my foot. Running and pressure starts making it hurt more, i even took a week off but the pain came right back. its in the middle of the front of my foot, on the bottom, near my toes. inside the foot. what is going on and how do i fix it lol


Get it checked out by an ortho if possible.

Could be something like Morton's neuroma or some sort of weakness or soft tissue injury.

The plantar aspect of the foot has 4 layers of muscles + nerves + fascia so it's best to get someone to diagnose you so at least you know what you're dealing with.
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 23:46:34
September 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#1035
I've got some tendinitis in my elbow from doing dead lifts a few days ago. It must have been because my arms were slightly bent for some of the movement or something because I can't imagine how else I could have hurt my elbows. The pain wasn't sharp, it was more like a strong aching pain. The past two days it was strong enough aching to cause my hands to shake a little bit when the pain was at its peak. Today I feel relatively fine.

I also read the article on tendinitis too, so I guess I'm suppose to wait a whole week before I can work out normally again? Any insight on this? Could I try doing some lighter weights and just feel my way through the workout or would the risk of re-aggravating it again not be worth it?

EDIT: Okay forget lighter weights.

Went to the gym with just legs in mind. Elbows started tingling just from loading my bar. Did squats. Reracked weights and went straight home.

Now I'm sitting here rocking back and forth in pain, typing with one hand. I'm a fucking idiot.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 02:23:46
September 25 2013 02:22 GMT
#1036
Tendonitis typically does not include any type of tingling sensations and should not be severe enough that you would have sharp pain that you would rock back and forth. Tendonitis is typically an overuse injury that onsets with more dull-ish type pain which may be acute during exercise but doesn't hurt significantly to any degree.

Sounds like something else IMO.

I would get that checked out by an orthopedic doc if possible
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
September 25 2013 03:39 GMT
#1037
Ya know I really hate hearing bad news.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 25 2013 12:16 GMT
#1038
@snuggles: sounds like what I had. Was caused by the tension/twisting up and back of my arms while doing lowbar squats. Rested arms for like a month and started doing highbar instead and it went away. Tried lowbar a couple times after that and I always get some pain as a warning sign.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
September 26 2013 14:10 GMT
#1039
My Physical therapist friend narrowed it down to Elbow Bursitis.

http://solomonsseal.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/elbowbursitis.jpg

He says it was from repetitive stress or w/e. I'm not even sure how I can even prevent that... No lifting for a week or more. I feel my quality of life draining already.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 16:13:33
September 26 2013 16:12 GMT
#1040
On September 26 2013 23:10 Snuggles wrote:
My Physical therapist friend narrowed it down to Elbow Bursitis.

http://solomonsseal.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/elbowbursitis.jpg

He says it was from repetitive stress or w/e. I'm not even sure how I can even prevent that... No lifting for a week or more. I feel my quality of life draining already.


lol why do people always assume they should take the lazy way out.

Yes, you have to rest "that area" on any exercise that aggravates it but you can still do the rest of your workouts.

Work on soft tissue, mobility, and anti-inflams if you were prescribed them.

Feel free to do non-painful exercises as well
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