On August 01 2012 06:08 Release wrote: Short of seeing a physio, which seems unlikely at this moment, I see two options for myself and would like advice on which is the better:
1) Do nothing, stay out-of-shape, and wait until i get a job+car so i can go see physio on my own (although i'll probably need surgery because i let the injury manifest itself for many years) or 2) Lift anyways and get surgery (which seems inevitable). Pretty sure i got the injury in Sept, and i worked through it unknowingly for about 4 months without dying or breaking anything.
What did you do again?
Everything is blending together
Sep 2011 - Pullup gone wrong. Feel something in(side) my left side move. Shoulder appears to be messed up. Kept lifting until Jan 2012. Haven't lifted since. 2 weeks ago, went to see a doctor. X-ray and blood tests say there is nothing wrong, doc says stop lifting.
On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. this #s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans. Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard press/bench press: feels painful after a set
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? an ache after pressing movements sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? yes a few months
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? not much. Some ice and flexibility work. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat) 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position. 12. Any previous injury history? not related to this 13. How's your posture? fine 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? rows/bench/press 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift). I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems. In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.
On July 25 2012 21:15 mordek wrote: So I had SI joint stuff a little while ago, got it all fixed up. Playing softball last night I'm getting a similar pain again -.- Is there any preventive or prehab stuff I can do for SI joint? I'd rather not have to see the chiro every month or two if I'm playing sports.
Your chiro should give you exercises to help stablize the joint... and exercises depend on your certain SI joint issue
Generally, strengthening tends to be good though, especially with the cross sling exercises like bird dogs
Ok. When I asked if there was something I should do or not do, he just told me to do the hip mobility stretches he showed me. Said should be fine doing whatever. I have been doing the stretches regularly but I will look into the exercises you mentioned thanks
Ummmm that seems really shady...
If SI is unstable then you need a combo of stretches and ESPECIALLY strength exercise to help stabilize
He stated the issue was my hip was locking up and the cycle of pain -> more seizing up -> pain was fixed by mobilizing the joint. I didn't complain because he was the second one I saw and it actually got better after two visits to him.
I couldn't find a lot about "cross sling". I'm familiar with bird dog. Is cross sling like stabilizing extension exercises for across the body (opposite arm and leg)? I can't think or find anything other than bird dog that seems similar.
Sorry was typing fast last time and mixed up words
It's supposed to be "posterior sling" muscles
If it was locked up then OK stretches would be good
But avoid any type of impact type of exercise like running because that can jar it into weird positions....
Thanks again for all your advice. In my research about this I came across Stability, Sport, and Performance Movement online preview. What I read sounded solid but all the exercises and tests are left out of course. I'm tempted to buy it as it's published in UK I believe and isn't exactly widely available in libraries here it seems. However, I've been wanting to ask you if you had any recommended resources for this kind of stuff. I'm really enjoying learning this and I think I just get motivated when it comes to the optimization of things. So anyways, eager to learn more and looking for some guidance
Also, after reading what was available I think my gluteal muscles are underperforming which is pretty common based on your sitting article plus other stuff I read. Had IT band issues for a long time, knee injury, and now SIJ issues so I'm going to focus on that for now. Cheers ^^
Femur or the ligament that connects the femur to the pelvis? I'm not 100% positive, but when I press against the femur inward while standing, it creates a sharp pain on my left (the side involved in my injury) and a much weaker pain on my right. Well, I guess my first question is..are you supposed to feel minimal pain on both sides when you give it pressure? (Just to make sure the problem is just my left hip, and not both.) I would hope so because my right hip seems to be working perfectly.
EDIT: I mean the pain is around the femur area. I kind of doubt it's the femur itself, but who knows.
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
Squats, deadlifts (not so much for deadlifts, though)
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 after about two days of doing squats. 5-6 right after squats.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
I guess more acute than chronic. I rested (stopped doing squats and deadlifts) for about two months. I really thought the injury was gone as I was literally pain free until I started doing 20 reps of squats with the bar, and the pain occurred again.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Initially, I've always thought the pain was from sore muscle around my left hip area, so I stupidly pressed on for a week until I could feel a pretty sharp pain on my left hip. Then I knew something was wrong.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
To be honest, I'm not sure because of one time when I fought through the pain. I remember after my workout, the pain ran all the way from my hip to my thigh. It's strange because the source of the pain is in my hip, thus I thought it was my bone or something, just not my muscle.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Just rest. Initially I did some mobility stuff, but the pain went away sooner than I thought so I quit after a week or two. I can literally live a hip-pain-free life if I just don't do any exercises which involves the hip. I can walk fine, pick up a pencil squatting down, etc. without pain.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Resting and avoiding exercises which involves the hip.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling, no nothing. Nothing unusual compared to my right hip.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Horrible after squats. Minimum pain the day after. No pain the day after that. Can't really tell after deadlifts as the pain comes after about an hour, but it doesn't last long.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
Great, or so I think. I do yoga from time to time, which helps.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
None now that involves the hip. I still do bench press, military press, pullups, and hang cleans.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Again, the pain only occurs after squats and deadlifts. If I just avoid any hip-related exercises, except for hang cleans or another exercises that doesn't use the hip as much, I'm perfectly fine.
On August 01 2012 06:08 Release wrote: Short of seeing a physio, which seems unlikely at this moment, I see two options for myself and would like advice on which is the better:
1) Do nothing, stay out-of-shape, and wait until i get a job+car so i can go see physio on my own (although i'll probably need surgery because i let the injury manifest itself for many years) or 2) Lift anyways and get surgery (which seems inevitable). Pretty sure i got the injury in Sept, and i worked through it unknowingly for about 4 months without dying or breaking anything.
What did you do again?
Everything is blending together
Sep 2011 - Pullup gone wrong. Feel something in(side) my left side move. Shoulder appears to be messed up. Kept lifting until Jan 2012. Haven't lifted since. 2 weeks ago, went to see a doctor. X-ray and blood tests say there is nothing wrong, doc says stop lifting.
On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. this #s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans. Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard press/bench press: feels painful after a set
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? an ache after pressing movements sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? yes a few months
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? not much. Some ice and flexibility work. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat) 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position. 12. Any previous injury history? not related to this 13. How's your posture? fine 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? rows/bench/press 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift). I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems. In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.
Have you tried gaming it with rotator cuff exercises and/or LYTPs?
On July 25 2012 21:15 mordek wrote: So I had SI joint stuff a little while ago, got it all fixed up. Playing softball last night I'm getting a similar pain again -.- Is there any preventive or prehab stuff I can do for SI joint? I'd rather not have to see the chiro every month or two if I'm playing sports.
Your chiro should give you exercises to help stablize the joint... and exercises depend on your certain SI joint issue
Generally, strengthening tends to be good though, especially with the cross sling exercises like bird dogs
Ok. When I asked if there was something I should do or not do, he just told me to do the hip mobility stretches he showed me. Said should be fine doing whatever. I have been doing the stretches regularly but I will look into the exercises you mentioned thanks
Ummmm that seems really shady...
If SI is unstable then you need a combo of stretches and ESPECIALLY strength exercise to help stabilize
He stated the issue was my hip was locking up and the cycle of pain -> more seizing up -> pain was fixed by mobilizing the joint. I didn't complain because he was the second one I saw and it actually got better after two visits to him.
I couldn't find a lot about "cross sling". I'm familiar with bird dog. Is cross sling like stabilizing extension exercises for across the body (opposite arm and leg)? I can't think or find anything other than bird dog that seems similar.
Sorry was typing fast last time and mixed up words
It's supposed to be "posterior sling" muscles
If it was locked up then OK stretches would be good
But avoid any type of impact type of exercise like running because that can jar it into weird positions....
Thanks again for all your advice. In my research about this I came across Stability, Sport, and Performance Movement online preview. What I read sounded solid but all the exercises and tests are left out of course. I'm tempted to buy it as it's published in UK I believe and isn't exactly widely available in libraries here it seems. However, I've been wanting to ask you if you had any recommended resources for this kind of stuff. I'm really enjoying learning this and I think I just get motivated when it comes to the optimization of things. So anyways, eager to learn more and looking for some guidance
Also, after reading what was available I think my gluteal muscles are underperforming which is pretty common based on your sitting article plus other stuff I read. Had IT band issues for a long time, knee injury, and now SIJ issues so I'm going to focus on that for now. Cheers ^^
Went to see physio for follow-up. Back is feeling better than before but still not 100%. She gave me a few more progression exercises for core. I think at this pace, I'll be able to deadlift and squat heavy by mid-september when I get back from Asia
On August 02 2012 00:07 billy5000 wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
Femur or the ligament that connects the femur to the pelvis? I'm not 100% positive, but when I press against the femur inward while standing, it creates a sharp pain on my left (the side involved in my injury) and a much weaker pain on my right. Well, I guess my first question is..are you supposed to feel minimal pain on both sides when you give it pressure? (Just to make sure the problem is just my left hip, and not both.) I would hope so because my right hip seems to be working perfectly.
EDIT: I mean the pain is around the femur area. I kind of doubt it's the femur itself, but who knows.
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
Squats, deadlifts (not so much for deadlifts, though)
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 after about two days of doing squats. 5-6 right after squats.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
I guess more acute than chronic. I rested (stopped doing squats and deadlifts) for about two months. I really thought the injury was gone as I was literally pain free until I started doing 20 reps of squats with the bar, and the pain occurred again.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Initially, I've always thought the pain was from sore muscle around my left hip area, so I stupidly pressed on for a week until I could feel a pretty sharp pain on my left hip. Then I knew something was wrong.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
To be honest, I'm not sure because of one time when I fought through the pain. I remember after my workout, the pain ran all the way from my hip to my thigh. It's strange because the source of the pain is in my hip, thus I thought it was my bone or something, just not my muscle.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Just rest. Initially I did some mobility stuff, but the pain went away sooner than I thought so I quit after a week or two. I can literally live a hip-pain-free life if I just don't do any exercises which involves the hip. I can walk fine, pick up a pencil squatting down, etc. without pain.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Resting and avoiding exercises which involves the hip.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling, no nothing. Nothing unusual compared to my right hip.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Horrible after squats. Minimum pain the day after. No pain the day after that. Can't really tell after deadlifts as the pain comes after about an hour, but it doesn't last long.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
Great, or so I think. I do yoga from time to time, which helps.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
None now that involves the hip. I still do bench press, military press, pullups, and hang cleans.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Again, the pain only occurs after squats and deadlifts. If I just avoid any hip-related exercises, except for hang cleans or another exercises that doesn't use the hip as much, I'm perfectly fine.
On August 01 2012 06:08 Release wrote: Short of seeing a physio, which seems unlikely at this moment, I see two options for myself and would like advice on which is the better:
1) Do nothing, stay out-of-shape, and wait until i get a job+car so i can go see physio on my own (although i'll probably need surgery because i let the injury manifest itself for many years) or 2) Lift anyways and get surgery (which seems inevitable). Pretty sure i got the injury in Sept, and i worked through it unknowingly for about 4 months without dying or breaking anything.
What did you do again?
Everything is blending together
Sep 2011 - Pullup gone wrong. Feel something in(side) my left side move. Shoulder appears to be messed up. Kept lifting until Jan 2012. Haven't lifted since. 2 weeks ago, went to see a doctor. X-ray and blood tests say there is nothing wrong, doc says stop lifting.
On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. this #s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans. Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard press/bench press: feels painful after a set
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? an ache after pressing movements sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? yes a few months
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? not much. Some ice and flexibility work. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat) 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position. 12. Any previous injury history? not related to this 13. How's your posture? fine 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? rows/bench/press 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift). I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems. In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.
Have you tried gaming it with rotator cuff exercises and/or LYTPs?
I've done some external rotation. It bothers my right shoulder a little, but i cannot complete the motion with my left shoulder, and the left shoulder itself ends up moving backwards a little. This paint is what i'm trying to get at. + Show Spoiler +
Small circle = Shoulder Red = forearm
Tried the 'Y' part of LYTP. Heard a click somewhere my left side. Also a mild burning sensation in my upper-left back/shoulder area.
Bah my right knee is still being annoying. Usually all the problems are on the left side of my body ~~
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. -It's in the back of the knee, where the calf and hamstring muscles would appear to end/meet
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. -Twisting type movements cause a somewhat sharp pain. Noticeable when i have to catch a clean in a position that requires some sideways knee/ankle bending. Other than that there is sometimes a dull ache. Sometimes noticeable while sprinting.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? -see above
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. -dull pain probably a 1-2. twisting pain ~4.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Sometime in the last 8 weeks i'd say, on and off. at the pendlay meet ~3 weeks ago i don't remember thinking about it at all.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? -uhh yeah. non stop lol. Can still squat and oly lift relatively fine once i am warmed up. Can still hit near max #s
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. -The ache seems to feel more near the surface/less deep and the twisting pain a bit deeper
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? -Squatting(probably not helping) and pounding fish oil and foam rolling IT band/hamstrings/calves
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? -Once i warm it up doing stuff like bodyweight squats and what not its usually fine for a while. Might start hurting later in workout depending on how the lifts go and how heavy.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? -A bit tight perhaps but i've been stretching and rolling to help losen them up, they're still flexible though. No swelling or reduction in movement or tenderness
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? -Dull aches on/off. Usually doesnt bother me at beginning or end of day, hit or miss with end of workout. usually an ache or two while i'm sitting at work.
12. Any previous injury history? -Nope
13. How's your posture? -Excellent while standing. meh while sitting.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? -oly lifting (duh) and rugby. doesnt usually bother me during rugby and i haven't played a lot this summer and can't think of any unusual trauma to it
On August 02 2012 00:07 billy5000 wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
Femur or the ligament that connects the femur to the pelvis? I'm not 100% positive, but when I press against the femur inward while standing, it creates a sharp pain on my left (the side involved in my injury) and a much weaker pain on my right. Well, I guess my first question is..are you supposed to feel minimal pain on both sides when you give it pressure? (Just to make sure the problem is just my left hip, and not both.) I would hope so because my right hip seems to be working perfectly.
EDIT: I mean the pain is around the femur area. I kind of doubt it's the femur itself, but who knows.
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
Squats, deadlifts (not so much for deadlifts, though)
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 after about two days of doing squats. 5-6 right after squats.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
I guess more acute than chronic. I rested (stopped doing squats and deadlifts) for about two months. I really thought the injury was gone as I was literally pain free until I started doing 20 reps of squats with the bar, and the pain occurred again.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Initially, I've always thought the pain was from sore muscle around my left hip area, so I stupidly pressed on for a week until I could feel a pretty sharp pain on my left hip. Then I knew something was wrong.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
To be honest, I'm not sure because of one time when I fought through the pain. I remember after my workout, the pain ran all the way from my hip to my thigh. It's strange because the source of the pain is in my hip, thus I thought it was my bone or something, just not my muscle.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Just rest. Initially I did some mobility stuff, but the pain went away sooner than I thought so I quit after a week or two. I can literally live a hip-pain-free life if I just don't do any exercises which involves the hip. I can walk fine, pick up a pencil squatting down, etc. without pain.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Resting and avoiding exercises which involves the hip.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling, no nothing. Nothing unusual compared to my right hip.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Horrible after squats. Minimum pain the day after. No pain the day after that. Can't really tell after deadlifts as the pain comes after about an hour, but it doesn't last long.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
Great, or so I think. I do yoga from time to time, which helps.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
None now that involves the hip. I still do bench press, military press, pullups, and hang cleans.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Again, the pain only occurs after squats and deadlifts. If I just avoid any hip-related exercises, except for hang cleans or another exercises that doesn't use the hip as much, I'm perfectly fine.
What mobility were you doing when it went away?
Have you tried that again as it seemed to help?
It feels horrible when I do this lol. I remember doing something like this when I was injured initially, and the pain went away. So I continued for about two weeks then tried squatting again. Pain came back again. Then kept doing mobility stuff for about a week or two and tried again. Same thing. I think I gave up at this point and just rested for two months. I tried squatting last week with the same result. The pain is always in the outer hip.
EDIT: Actually, I started doing various hip stretches again and I could definitely feel the pain in the front hip more than the side.
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. It's the distal radioulnar joint, I think I ruptured my discus, see pic at art. disc http://i.imgur.com/E6dbv.png 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. Pressure pain above the joint (ulna), pain when abducting the ulna or rotating the hand.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? Sharp. Stinging.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. If I don't move the hand at all 0, if I tried to rotate it as far as possible probably a 9.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? 2days ago. Got worse from the day of the accident then a bit better.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? I kept working for about 5 hours after I hurt myself (I work for the red cross so I have to carry people).
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Feels like either a tendon, discus or bone is hurt.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Got a cast, got an MRT next week.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? Swelling in the fingers a bit.
12. Any previous injury history? No.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? I go to the gym.
Main question, how long does this take to heal up s I don't have time for being sick right now.
On August 01 2012 06:08 Release wrote: Short of seeing a physio, which seems unlikely at this moment, I see two options for myself and would like advice on which is the better:
1) Do nothing, stay out-of-shape, and wait until i get a job+car so i can go see physio on my own (although i'll probably need surgery because i let the injury manifest itself for many years) or 2) Lift anyways and get surgery (which seems inevitable). Pretty sure i got the injury in Sept, and i worked through it unknowingly for about 4 months without dying or breaking anything.
What did you do again?
Everything is blending together
Sep 2011 - Pullup gone wrong. Feel something in(side) my left side move. Shoulder appears to be messed up. Kept lifting until Jan 2012. Haven't lifted since. 2 weeks ago, went to see a doctor. X-ray and blood tests say there is nothing wrong, doc says stop lifting.
On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. this #s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans. Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard press/bench press: feels painful after a set
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? an ache after pressing movements sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? yes a few months
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? not much. Some ice and flexibility work. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat) 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position. 12. Any previous injury history? not related to this 13. How's your posture? fine 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? rows/bench/press 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift). I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems. In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.
Have you tried gaming it with rotator cuff exercises and/or LYTPs?
I've done some external rotation. It bothers my right shoulder a little, but i cannot complete the motion with my left shoulder, and the left shoulder itself ends up moving backwards a little. This paint is what i'm trying to get at. + Show Spoiler +
Small circle = Shoulder Red = forearm
Tried the 'Y' part of LYTP. Heard a click somewhere my left side. Also a mild burning sensation in my upper-left back/shoulder area.
Hmmm, I'm honestly not sure what to tell you.
The fact that the shoulder wants to seem to sublux may mean some sort of labral tear or it could just be a muscle strain of some sort. Muscle strains heal though in that amount of time. Could potentially be a rotator cuff issue too, hmmm.
It would likely be a good idea to stick with non-painful exercises if possible at least until you get to an orthopedic doc.
On August 02 2012 00:07 billy5000 wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
Femur or the ligament that connects the femur to the pelvis? I'm not 100% positive, but when I press against the femur inward while standing, it creates a sharp pain on my left (the side involved in my injury) and a much weaker pain on my right. Well, I guess my first question is..are you supposed to feel minimal pain on both sides when you give it pressure? (Just to make sure the problem is just my left hip, and not both.) I would hope so because my right hip seems to be working perfectly.
EDIT: I mean the pain is around the femur area. I kind of doubt it's the femur itself, but who knows.
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
Squats, deadlifts (not so much for deadlifts, though)
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 after about two days of doing squats. 5-6 right after squats.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
I guess more acute than chronic. I rested (stopped doing squats and deadlifts) for about two months. I really thought the injury was gone as I was literally pain free until I started doing 20 reps of squats with the bar, and the pain occurred again.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Initially, I've always thought the pain was from sore muscle around my left hip area, so I stupidly pressed on for a week until I could feel a pretty sharp pain on my left hip. Then I knew something was wrong.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
To be honest, I'm not sure because of one time when I fought through the pain. I remember after my workout, the pain ran all the way from my hip to my thigh. It's strange because the source of the pain is in my hip, thus I thought it was my bone or something, just not my muscle.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Just rest. Initially I did some mobility stuff, but the pain went away sooner than I thought so I quit after a week or two. I can literally live a hip-pain-free life if I just don't do any exercises which involves the hip. I can walk fine, pick up a pencil squatting down, etc. without pain.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Resting and avoiding exercises which involves the hip.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling, no nothing. Nothing unusual compared to my right hip.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Horrible after squats. Minimum pain the day after. No pain the day after that. Can't really tell after deadlifts as the pain comes after about an hour, but it doesn't last long.
12. Any previous injury history?
None.
13. How's your posture?
Great, or so I think. I do yoga from time to time, which helps.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
None now that involves the hip. I still do bench press, military press, pullups, and hang cleans.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Again, the pain only occurs after squats and deadlifts. If I just avoid any hip-related exercises, except for hang cleans or another exercises that doesn't use the hip as much, I'm perfectly fine.
It feels horrible when I do this lol. I remember doing something like this when I was injured initially, and the pain went away. So I continued for about two weeks then tried squatting again. Pain came back again. Then kept doing mobility stuff for about a week or two and tried again. Same thing. I think I gave up at this point and just rested for two months. I tried squatting last week with the same result. The pain is always in the outer hip.
EDIT: Actually, I started doing various hip stretches again and I could definitely feel the pain in the front hip more than the side.
Take a foam roller or tennis ball to your tensor fascia latae, and gluteus medius, and rector femoris/sartorius, and do one of the wall hip flexor stretches and see if that helps.
On August 02 2012 13:38 decafchicken wrote: Bah my right knee is still being annoying. Usually all the problems are on the left side of my body ~~
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. -It's in the back of the knee, where the calf and hamstring muscles would appear to end/meet
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. -Twisting type movements cause a somewhat sharp pain. Noticeable when i have to catch a clean in a position that requires some sideways knee/ankle bending. Other than that there is sometimes a dull ache. Sometimes noticeable while sprinting.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? -see above
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. -dull pain probably a 1-2. twisting pain ~4.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Sometime in the last 8 weeks i'd say, on and off. at the pendlay meet ~3 weeks ago i don't remember thinking about it at all.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? -uhh yeah. non stop lol. Can still squat and oly lift relatively fine once i am warmed up. Can still hit near max #s
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. -The ache seems to feel more near the surface/less deep and the twisting pain a bit deeper
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? -Squatting(probably not helping) and pounding fish oil and foam rolling IT band/hamstrings/calves
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? -Once i warm it up doing stuff like bodyweight squats and what not its usually fine for a while. Might start hurting later in workout depending on how the lifts go and how heavy.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? -A bit tight perhaps but i've been stretching and rolling to help losen them up, they're still flexible though. No swelling or reduction in movement or tenderness
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? -Dull aches on/off. Usually doesnt bother me at beginning or end of day, hit or miss with end of workout. usually an ache or two while i'm sitting at work.
12. Any previous injury history? -Nope
13. How's your posture? -Excellent while standing. meh while sitting.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? -oly lifting (duh) and rugby. doesnt usually bother me during rugby and i haven't played a lot this summer and can't think of any unusual trauma to it
lol, not giving me much to work with here...
Have you tried some soft tissue work to your popliteus, and upper heads of your gastroc already?
Also, take a stick to your plantar fascia to loosen some posterior chain fascia up
On August 02 2012 22:54 decaf wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. It's the distal radioulnar joint, I think I ruptured my discus, see pic at art. disc http://i.imgur.com/E6dbv.png 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. Pressure pain above the joint (ulna), pain when abducting the ulna or rotating the hand.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? Sharp. Stinging.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. If I don't move the hand at all 0, if I tried to rotate it as far as possible probably a 9.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? 2days ago. Got worse from the day of the accident then a bit better.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? I kept working for about 5 hours after I hurt myself (I work for the red cross so I have to carry people).
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Feels like either a tendon, discus or bone is hurt.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Got a cast, got an MRT next week.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? Swelling in the fingers a bit.
12. Any previous injury history? No.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? I go to the gym.
Main question, how long does this take to heal up s I don't have time for being sick right now.
Depends on what actually happened.... and you didn't say what happened.
The triangular fibrocartilage complex (TFCC) along with the articular disc is there... and if you ripped that up depending on the damage you may need surgery or you could be better in a couple of weeks.
Non-painful mobility is good if possible.... I guess you'll see what happens after the MRT though.
On August 02 2012 13:38 decafchicken wrote: Bah my right knee is still being annoying. Usually all the problems are on the left side of my body ~~
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. -It's in the back of the knee, where the calf and hamstring muscles would appear to end/meet
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. -Twisting type movements cause a somewhat sharp pain. Noticeable when i have to catch a clean in a position that requires some sideways knee/ankle bending. Other than that there is sometimes a dull ache. Sometimes noticeable while sprinting.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? -see above
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. -dull pain probably a 1-2. twisting pain ~4.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Sometime in the last 8 weeks i'd say, on and off. at the pendlay meet ~3 weeks ago i don't remember thinking about it at all.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? -uhh yeah. non stop lol. Can still squat and oly lift relatively fine once i am warmed up. Can still hit near max #s
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. -The ache seems to feel more near the surface/less deep and the twisting pain a bit deeper
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? -Squatting(probably not helping) and pounding fish oil and foam rolling IT band/hamstrings/calves
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? -Once i warm it up doing stuff like bodyweight squats and what not its usually fine for a while. Might start hurting later in workout depending on how the lifts go and how heavy.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? -A bit tight perhaps but i've been stretching and rolling to help losen them up, they're still flexible though. No swelling or reduction in movement or tenderness
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? -Dull aches on/off. Usually doesnt bother me at beginning or end of day, hit or miss with end of workout. usually an ache or two while i'm sitting at work.
12. Any previous injury history? -Nope
13. How's your posture? -Excellent while standing. meh while sitting.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? -oly lifting (duh) and rugby. doesnt usually bother me during rugby and i haven't played a lot this summer and can't think of any unusual trauma to it
lol, not giving me much to work with here...
Have you tried some soft tissue work to your popliteus, and upper heads of your gastroc already?
Also, take a stick to your plantar fascia to loosen some posterior chain fascia up
Hmm saw some guys using golf ball to roll out their feet this weekend, i'll try that. Been doing some soft tissue work to popliteus/gastrocs with foam roller and self massage
Looking at this picture i'd say the ache is around the PCL
On August 02 2012 22:54 decaf wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. It's the distal radioulnar joint, I think I ruptured my discus, see pic at art. disc http://i.imgur.com/E6dbv.png 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. Pressure pain above the joint (ulna), pain when abducting the ulna or rotating the hand.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? Sharp. Stinging.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. If I don't move the hand at all 0, if I tried to rotate it as far as possible probably a 9.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? 2days ago. Got worse from the day of the accident then a bit better.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? I kept working for about 5 hours after I hurt myself (I work for the red cross so I have to carry people).
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Feels like either a tendon, discus or bone is hurt.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Got a cast, got an MRT next week.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? Swelling in the fingers a bit.
12. Any previous injury history? No.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? I go to the gym.
Main question, how long does this take to heal up s I don't have time for being sick right now.
Depends on what actually happened.... and you didn't say what happened.
The triangular fibrocartilage complex (TFCC) along with the articular disc is there... and if you ripped that up depending on the damage you may need surgery or you could be better in a couple of weeks.
Non-painful mobility is good if possible.... I guess you'll see what happens after the MRT though.
I got civil service in my country so I'm working for the red cross atm. I think I damaged my wrist when carrying some patient in a wheelchair. Had to get him across the street, passin two curbs, maybe I did some unlucky movement, either way it started hurting after that. Then I proceeded to carry him upstairs 3 floors and work for another 5 hours until I wasn't even able to lift a thing with that hand anymore.
So you're saying I should move my hand around within boundaries that don't hurt? To increase blood flow I guess? Is there anything else I can do to speed up the healing process? I wanna start working and going to the gym again..
On August 01 2012 06:08 Release wrote: Short of seeing a physio, which seems unlikely at this moment, I see two options for myself and would like advice on which is the better:
1) Do nothing, stay out-of-shape, and wait until i get a job+car so i can go see physio on my own (although i'll probably need surgery because i let the injury manifest itself for many years) or 2) Lift anyways and get surgery (which seems inevitable). Pretty sure i got the injury in Sept, and i worked through it unknowingly for about 4 months without dying or breaking anything.
What did you do again?
Everything is blending together
Sep 2011 - Pullup gone wrong. Feel something in(side) my left side move. Shoulder appears to be messed up. Kept lifting until Jan 2012. Haven't lifted since. 2 weeks ago, went to see a doctor. X-ray and blood tests say there is nothing wrong, doc says stop lifting.
On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote: 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. this #s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans. Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard press/bench press: feels painful after a set
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? an ache after pressing movements sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? yes a few months
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? not much. Some ice and flexibility work. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat) 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position. 12. Any previous injury history? not related to this 13. How's your posture? fine 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? rows/bench/press 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift). I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems. In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.
Have you tried gaming it with rotator cuff exercises and/or LYTPs?
I've done some external rotation. It bothers my right shoulder a little, but i cannot complete the motion with my left shoulder, and the left shoulder itself ends up moving backwards a little. This paint is what i'm trying to get at. + Show Spoiler +
Small circle = Shoulder Red = forearm
Tried the 'Y' part of LYTP. Heard a click somewhere my left side. Also a mild burning sensation in my upper-left back/shoulder area.
Hmmm, I'm honestly not sure what to tell you.
The fact that the shoulder wants to seem to sublux may mean some sort of labral tear or it could just be a muscle strain of some sort. Muscle strains heal though in that amount of time. Could potentially be a rotator cuff issue too, hmmm.
It would likely be a good idea to stick with non-painful exercises if possible at least until you get to an orthopedic doc.
would a labral tear show in an xray or blood test?
Just about any exercise can cause the left back/shoulder area to pain. I was doing some abs (leg lifts), and it caused pain in the left shoulder/back area. On another day, i did right arm bicep curls, and it caused pain in the left shoulder/back area
Also, in the past few months, (should've mentioned this earlier, but it seemed so insignificant), i've been getting random stinging feelings in my shoulder blades. At first it feels sharp, then like a cold liquid rolling under my skin, then gone.
On August 02 2012 13:38 decafchicken wrote: Bah my right knee is still being annoying. Usually all the problems are on the left side of my body ~~
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. -It's in the back of the knee, where the calf and hamstring muscles would appear to end/meet
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. -Twisting type movements cause a somewhat sharp pain. Noticeable when i have to catch a clean in a position that requires some sideways knee/ankle bending. Other than that there is sometimes a dull ache. Sometimes noticeable while sprinting.
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? -see above
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. -dull pain probably a 1-2. twisting pain ~4.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Sometime in the last 8 weeks i'd say, on and off. at the pendlay meet ~3 weeks ago i don't remember thinking about it at all.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? -uhh yeah. non stop lol. Can still squat and oly lift relatively fine once i am warmed up. Can still hit near max #s
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. -The ache seems to feel more near the surface/less deep and the twisting pain a bit deeper
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? -Squatting(probably not helping) and pounding fish oil and foam rolling IT band/hamstrings/calves
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? -Once i warm it up doing stuff like bodyweight squats and what not its usually fine for a while. Might start hurting later in workout depending on how the lifts go and how heavy.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? -A bit tight perhaps but i've been stretching and rolling to help losen them up, they're still flexible though. No swelling or reduction in movement or tenderness
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? -Dull aches on/off. Usually doesnt bother me at beginning or end of day, hit or miss with end of workout. usually an ache or two while i'm sitting at work.
12. Any previous injury history? -Nope
13. How's your posture? -Excellent while standing. meh while sitting.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? -oly lifting (duh) and rugby. doesnt usually bother me during rugby and i haven't played a lot this summer and can't think of any unusual trauma to it
lol, not giving me much to work with here...
Have you tried some soft tissue work to your popliteus, and upper heads of your gastroc already?
Also, take a stick to your plantar fascia to loosen some posterior chain fascia up
Hmm saw some guys using golf ball to roll out their feet this weekend, i'll try that. Been doing some soft tissue work to popliteus/gastrocs with foam roller and self massage
Looking at this picture i'd say the ache is around the PCL
Hmmm. There's not much in the way of muscles around the PCL
It could be something if the meniscus was jacked, or the joint is a bit tight from some minor swelling.
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