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Ok, this has happened to me twice now and I'm starting to become concerned.
On my first set of squats in my last 2 workouts (so this is the 45 lb warm-up set) my right knee has made an audible 'pop' sound at the bottom of the motion on one of the reps, and then after the set hurt a bit for a minute or so and then went away. Both times I've been able to complete all further sets with no problem (although I was understandably being very careful).
Also, this is the same leg that has the ankle injury that has never quite gone away.
So I'm not sure if this is:
A. inadequate stretching? (I only think this because it always happens on the first set)
B. Some complication from the ankle
C. Something else I haven't thought of
Just asking what it is I should do. Should I get a knee-brace? Or would that be over-reacting?
I know this is REALLY REALLY not significant, but having had to deal with my ankle for the last 2 years, I really want to figure the knee thing out before I injure it for real.
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On April 23 2012 11:17 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Ok, this has happened to me twice now and I'm starting to become concerned.
On my first set of squats in my last 2 workouts (so this is the 45 lb warm-up set) my right knee has made an audible 'pop' sound at the bottom of the motion on one of the reps, and then after the set hurt a bit for a minute or so and then went away. Both times I've been able to complete all further sets with no problem (although I was understandably being very careful).
Also, this is the same leg that has the ankle injury that has never quite gone away.
So I'm not sure if this is:
A. inadequate stretching? (I only think this because it always happens on the first set)
B. Some complication from the ankle
C. Something else I haven't thought of
Just asking what it is I should do. Should I get a knee-brace? Or would that be over-reacting?
I know this is REALLY REALLY not significant, but having had to deal with my ankle for the last 2 years, I really want to figure the knee thing out before I injure it for real.
Well, here's the thing.
If your ankle mobility is poor from the injury then your body has to gain more range of motion from somewhere, especially at the bottom of the squat.
The place it normally gains it from will be either in the hip or the knee... and in this instance it seems like it's coming from your knee which is not good.
I would suggest you start working to gain your ankle flexibility/mobility back, and don't squat as deep until you can get more of it back.
Make sense?
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Makes perfect sense. I hadn't thought that it was a symptom of the ankle. Time to start doing the PT often again. Thanks.
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Knee pain.
+ Show Spoiler +1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/shA8z.jpg) 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. Didn't bother me during squats or deadlift but is sore afterwards. It bothers me when I go into third world squat. 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? Out of those options sharp. Similar to the discomfort when stretching really hard but more inside me knee. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 2-3 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? I've noticed this discomfort before but hadn't thought to post anything until now. I would say it's been weeks but isn't always present. 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? Yes weeks. 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Feels like inside the knee on the back. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Stretching, foam rolling. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? Rest, it seems to be worse post-workout days. 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? My calf feels looser than in the past since starting to roll/massage. Hamstrings are harder to gauge for me but are suspect. 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? I don't remember feeling it when I showed people how to get down in third world squat yesterday but it bothered me at work later on. 12. Any previous injury history? Reconstructed ACL knee. Meniscus bucket handle tear iirc. 13. How's your posture? Ok. 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? SS/SL 3x a week, volleyball, basketball, softball, ultimate frisbee each about once a week. 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? Yes, the back of my hips have been bothering me as well and I think it might be related. I'm thinking SI joint based on your articles. I did my heaviest deadlift ever yesterday as well. When I pull my foot to my butt I can only get it to within 2 inches and this has been the case since tearing my ACL. When I do this I feel the pain in the back of my knee on the lateral side(?). The other side can touch. I'm kind of wondering if this is just what I have to deal with having a post-surgery knee.
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On April 25 2012 00:55 mordek wrote:Knee pain. [spoiler] 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. Didn't bother me during squats or deadlift but is sore afterwards. It bothers me when I go into third world squat. + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Out of those options sharp. Similar to the discomfort when stretching really hard but more inside me knee.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2-3
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
I've noticed this discomfort before but hadn't thought to post anything until now. I would say it's been weeks but isn't always present.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Yes weeks.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Feels like inside the knee on the back.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Stretching, foam rolling.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Rest, it seems to be worse post-workout days.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
My calf feels looser than in the past since starting to roll/massage. Hamstrings are harder to gauge for me but are suspect.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
I don't remember feeling it when I showed people how to get down in third world squat yesterday but it bothered me at work later on.
12. Any previous injury history?
Reconstructed ACL knee. Meniscus bucket handle tear iirc.
13. How's your posture?
Ok.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
SS/SL 3x a week, volleyball, basketball, softball, ultimate frisbee each about once a week.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Yes, the back of my hips have been bothering me as well and I think it might be related. I'm thinking SI joint based on your articles. I did my heaviest deadlift ever yesterday as well. When I pull my foot to my butt I can only get it to within 2 inches and this has been the case since tearing my ACL. When I do this I feel the pain in the back of my knee on the lateral side(?). The other side can touch. I'm kind of wondering if this is just what I have to deal with having a post-surgery knee.
For the knee I would get it checked by a PT.
It doesn't sound like anything is horribly wrong, but your meniscus is probably stuck a bit posteriorly it seems. If it's something simple as getting stuck, theres some techniques that can be done to help get it into the correct position again in a couple minutes.
Would also be a good time to get the hip checked too if you think it's SI.
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Elbow injury.
+ Show Spoiler +1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qfdbu.jpg) Red blop between bones pointed by black arrow on the left side of the photo. 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.htmlMost pushing excersises, Weighted bar dips being most hurtful, bench press, weighted push ups when bones make 90 degree like on the image above pain is biggest 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? sharp I think 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 7-8 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? chronic I think Ive been dealing with this for over 8 months now (pain is only when I use that elbow its not passive pain all the time) 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? Yes Ive been, I also made breaks but had moments where I decided I am gonna go through with my schedule and maxed weights now I am doing high rep low intensity pushing excersises me training through it made it worse I think 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Its more inside it like exacly where triceps is connecting to the bone I can feel the pain either by going 90 degree elbow and flexing it really hard or by manually pressing fingers on the spot 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? tried ice, stretching, gentle pushing movements, hot cold thing, ibuprofen these didnt really work I went to manual therapist (good one but he seems to be nervous system focued, will describe later in that post) I made several breaks 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? It used to get worse and worse but then I did few visits in a really good manual therapist who said my entire right side has some "nervous imbalance" and I made it worse by weightlifing all that time and its really complex problem right now after visits pain is more spread out and to a lesser degree but I start to feel it echoing on forearm bones and I just now noticed that something similar is developing on my other hand(original injury is on right hand but now left is starting to be affected aswell ;/) 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? There is nothing abnormal visible. 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? during normal days I dont feel it that much on the begining it was only when I was doing excersises or flexing it or pushing pain was sharp and strong now its smaller and more blunt When I did my heaviest bar dip sets pain was definitely worse and I could feel it negatively affect elbow 12. Any previous injury history? I had shoulder injury from Tenis serving and it was healed by same Manual therapist in a matter of 30 minutes but injury was kinda serious and theory is that it might have been not fully healed and it might be the cause of that entire "right side" nervous imbalance spreading I might be wrong or translating it bad but thats what Manual therapist said 13. How's your posture? Its good I would say 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? not really, I weight lift 3 times a week with 5-8 rep range (heavy weights) but I do 9-12 or even higher for injured areas so I dont really stress that elbow to any serious degree I do some stretching and balance and other helpful movements + I do deadlifts and squats with very good form now ( I used to have bad form so it might have add to injuries ) 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? On the same side I think I might have some shoulder pain in one place and it might be related to that right side problem also while deadlifing I had some muscle or tendon kinda slip on my right knee but its better now, these are different infjuries and I will propably make separate posts to them but I thought they might be somehow related It might be important, from my research it seems its where triceps connect to elbow and Manual therapist said that elbow is only where the pain decided to show itself but problem is much deeper and complex( I have really no idea what that means) but like I said hes more nervous system centered than mobility movement and stretching if that makes any sense
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On April 25 2012 01:15 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 00:55 mordek wrote:Knee pain. [spoiler] 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. Didn't bother me during squats or deadlift but is sore afterwards. It bothers me when I go into third world squat. + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Out of those options sharp. Similar to the discomfort when stretching really hard but more inside me knee.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2-3
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
I've noticed this discomfort before but hadn't thought to post anything until now. I would say it's been weeks but isn't always present.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Yes weeks.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Feels like inside the knee on the back.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Stretching, foam rolling.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Rest, it seems to be worse post-workout days.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
My calf feels looser than in the past since starting to roll/massage. Hamstrings are harder to gauge for me but are suspect.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
I don't remember feeling it when I showed people how to get down in third world squat yesterday but it bothered me at work later on.
12. Any previous injury history?
Reconstructed ACL knee. Meniscus bucket handle tear iirc.
13. How's your posture?
Ok.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
SS/SL 3x a week, volleyball, basketball, softball, ultimate frisbee each about once a week.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Yes, the back of my hips have been bothering me as well and I think it might be related. I'm thinking SI joint based on your articles. I did my heaviest deadlift ever yesterday as well. When I pull my foot to my butt I can only get it to within 2 inches and this has been the case since tearing my ACL. When I do this I feel the pain in the back of my knee on the lateral side(?). The other side can touch. I'm kind of wondering if this is just what I have to deal with having a post-surgery knee. For the knee I would get it checked by a PT. It doesn't sound like anything is horribly wrong, but your meniscus is probably stuck a bit posteriorly it seems. If it's something simple as getting stuck, theres some techniques that can be done to help get it into the correct position again in a couple minutes. Would also be a good time to get the hip checked too if you think it's SI.
Did some stretching and the SI door frame push thing you had posted (didn't feel anything change but don't know...) and hip feels better. Knee feels worse today after lifting  Guess I'll have to make an appt for a PT.
Edit: During ultimate frisbee hips hurt again. Not so much after. Knee was ok but still hurts in deep squat, no lifting Friday?
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On April 26 2012 05:59 napalmion wrote:Elbow injury. + Show Spoiler +1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. Red blop between bones pointed by black arrow on the left side of the photo. 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.htmlMost pushing excersises, Weighted bar dips being most hurtful, bench press, weighted push ups when bones make 90 degree like on the image above pain is biggest 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? sharp I think 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 7-8 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? chronic I think Ive been dealing with this for over 8 months now (pain is only when I use that elbow its not passive pain all the time) 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? Yes Ive been, I also made breaks but had moments where I decided I am gonna go through with my schedule and maxed weights now I am doing high rep low intensity pushing excersises me training through it made it worse I think 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Its more inside it like exacly where triceps is connecting to the bone I can feel the pain either by going 90 degree elbow and flexing it really hard or by manually pressing fingers on the spot 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? tried ice, stretching, gentle pushing movements, hot cold thing, ibuprofen these didnt really work I went to manual therapist (good one but he seems to be nervous system focued, will describe later in that post) I made several breaks 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? It used to get worse and worse but then I did few visits in a really good manual therapist who said my entire right side has some "nervous imbalance" and I made it worse by weightlifing all that time and its really complex problem right now after visits pain is more spread out and to a lesser degree but I start to feel it echoing on forearm bones and I just now noticed that something similar is developing on my other hand(original injury is on right hand but now left is starting to be affected aswell ;/) 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? There is nothing abnormal visible. 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? during normal days I dont feel it that much on the begining it was only when I was doing excersises or flexing it or pushing pain was sharp and strong now its smaller and more blunt When I did my heaviest bar dip sets pain was definitely worse and I could feel it negatively affect elbow 12. Any previous injury history? I had shoulder injury from Tenis serving and it was healed by same Manual therapist in a matter of 30 minutes but injury was kinda serious and theory is that it might have been not fully healed and it might be the cause of that entire "right side" nervous imbalance spreading I might be wrong or translating it bad but thats what Manual therapist said 13. How's your posture? Its good I would say 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? not really, I weight lift 3 times a week with 5-8 rep range (heavy weights) but I do 9-12 or even higher for injured areas so I dont really stress that elbow to any serious degree I do some stretching and balance and other helpful movements + I do deadlifts and squats with very good form now ( I used to have bad form so it might have add to injuries ) 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? On the same side I think I might have some shoulder pain in one place and it might be related to that right side problem also while deadlifing I had some muscle or tendon kinda slip on my right knee but its better now, these are different infjuries and I will propably make separate posts to them but I thought they might be somehow related It might be important, from my research it seems its where triceps connect to elbow and Manual therapist said that elbow is only where the pain decided to show itself but problem is much deeper and complex( I have really no idea what that means) but like I said hes more nervous system centered than mobility movement and stretching if that makes any sense
It really sounds like you have some tendonitis of the triceps tendon though I'm not quite sure about that.
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/
Biggest thing though is loosening up your triceps muscle with some soft tissue massage and heat (not on the affected area though) and see if that helps out any
Alternatively, you can try this:
http://www.mobilitywod.com/2012/04/banish-your-elbow-pain-you-dont-really-play-golf-or-tennis-do-you.html
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On April 26 2012 06:15 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 01:15 eshlow wrote:On April 25 2012 00:55 mordek wrote:Knee pain. [spoiler] 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. Didn't bother me during squats or deadlift but is sore afterwards. It bothers me when I go into third world squat. + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Out of those options sharp. Similar to the discomfort when stretching really hard but more inside me knee.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2-3
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
I've noticed this discomfort before but hadn't thought to post anything until now. I would say it's been weeks but isn't always present.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Yes weeks.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Feels like inside the knee on the back.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Stretching, foam rolling.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Rest, it seems to be worse post-workout days.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
My calf feels looser than in the past since starting to roll/massage. Hamstrings are harder to gauge for me but are suspect.
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
I don't remember feeling it when I showed people how to get down in third world squat yesterday but it bothered me at work later on.
12. Any previous injury history?
Reconstructed ACL knee. Meniscus bucket handle tear iirc.
13. How's your posture?
Ok.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
SS/SL 3x a week, volleyball, basketball, softball, ultimate frisbee each about once a week.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Yes, the back of my hips have been bothering me as well and I think it might be related. I'm thinking SI joint based on your articles. I did my heaviest deadlift ever yesterday as well. When I pull my foot to my butt I can only get it to within 2 inches and this has been the case since tearing my ACL. When I do this I feel the pain in the back of my knee on the lateral side(?). The other side can touch. I'm kind of wondering if this is just what I have to deal with having a post-surgery knee. For the knee I would get it checked by a PT. It doesn't sound like anything is horribly wrong, but your meniscus is probably stuck a bit posteriorly it seems. If it's something simple as getting stuck, theres some techniques that can be done to help get it into the correct position again in a couple minutes. Would also be a good time to get the hip checked too if you think it's SI. Did some stretching and the SI door frame push thing you had posted (didn't feel anything change but don't know...) and hip feels better. Knee feels worse today after lifting Guess I'll have to make an appt for a PT. Edit: During ultimate frisbee hips hurt again. Not so much after. Knee was ok but still hurts in deep squat, no lifting Friday?
Anything that doesn't aggravate it is fine.
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I have a tendonitis (left index finger) that might be induced psychosomatically. What do you guys have to say about that? Anyone got similar stuff and is this even possible? Considering I'm only 19 I kinda doubt it.. I am kinda stressed out though, but that just might be a coincidence I think.
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On April 28 2012 03:57 decaf wrote:
I have a tendonitis (left index finger) that might be induced psychosomatically. What do you guys have to say about that? Anyone got similar stuff and is this even possible? Considering I'm only 19 I kinda doubt it.. I am kinda stressed out though, but that just might be a coincidence I think.
Can you answer the questions in the OP?
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On April 30 2012 00:56 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:57 decaf wrote:
I have a tendonitis (left index finger) that might be induced psychosomatically. What do you guys have to say about that? Anyone got similar stuff and is this even possible? Considering I'm only 19 I kinda doubt it.. I am kinda stressed out though, but that just might be a coincidence I think. Can you answer the questions in the OP?
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
![[image loading]](http://www.mauihandtherapy.com/assets/images/trigger_finger_1.jpeg)
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Dragging pain.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0.5
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
4 weeks, started when playing sc2, like 20games in a row (have done like 40+ already as well without having issues and a week of playing much without feeling any pain.)
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
No.
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Around all the joints from the thing described as swollen tendon up to the tip of the finger.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Not moving the finger at all and using non-steroidal anti-inflammatory ointment and pills.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
NSAI drugs make it take longer to heal. Realizing it's just a psychosomatical symptom and not even an "injury" helped the most (in my case).
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Beginning and enf of the day marked by dragging pain.
12. Any previous injury history?
No.
13. How's your posture?
Good, I guess. When playing both my arms rest on the table - not that wrist type of thing.
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
None.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
My doctor didn't believe for some reason I actually had a tendonitis. He sent me to do an x-ray to check and nothing was found. He asked me if I eat healthy food or fast food, because you might get it from eating too much meat. I eat healthy, though. He came to the conclusion that it's induced psychosomatically and that's probably it. I do have mental and emotional problems and since I know that the injury comes from pychological stress the swelling has almost disappeared within 2 or 3 days after not getting better for weeks. I also stopped using the NSAI drugs.
Maybe this will help someone who experiences similar things. Apparently If you're really stressed out you can get a tendonitis from it, believe it or not. My case seems already solved :3
http://healingfrominside.org/post/731856695/alex-cole-tendonitis
This helped a lot, also.
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On April 30 2012 05:08 decaf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 00:56 eshlow wrote:On April 28 2012 03:57 decaf wrote:
I have a tendonitis (left index finger) that might be induced psychosomatically. What do you guys have to say about that? Anyone got similar stuff and is this even possible? Considering I'm only 19 I kinda doubt it.. I am kinda stressed out though, but that just might be a coincidence I think. Can you answer the questions in the OP? 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. + Show Spoiler +3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? Dragging pain. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. 0.5 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? 4 weeks, started when playing sc2, like 20games in a row (have done like 40+ already as well without having issues and a week of playing much without feeling any pain.) 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? No. 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Around all the joints from the thing described as swollen tendon up to the tip of the finger. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Not moving the finger at all and using non-steroidal anti-inflammatory ointment and pills. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? NSAI drugs make it take longer to heal. Realizing it's just a psychosomatical symptom and not even an "injury" helped the most (in my case). 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? Beginning and enf of the day marked by dragging pain. 12. Any previous injury history? No. 13. How's your posture? Good, I guess. When playing both my arms rest on the table - not that wrist type of thing. 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? None. 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? My doctor didn't believe for some reason I actually had a tendonitis. He sent me to do an x-ray to check and nothing was found. He asked me if I eat healthy food or fast food, because you might get it from eating too much meat. I eat healthy, though. He came to the conclusion that it's induced psychosomatically and that's probably it. I do have mental and emotional problems and since I know that the injury comes from pychological stress the swelling has almost disappeared within 2 or 3 days after not getting better for weeks. I also stopped using the NSAI drugs. Maybe this will help someone who experiences similar things. Apparently If you're really stressed out you can get a tendonitis from it, believe it or not. My case seems already solved :3 http://healingfrominside.org/post/731856695/alex-cole-tendonitisThis helped a lot, also.
I mean if it is psychosomatic then it should clear up as your emotional/mind set state clears up.
Do more fun things that you like to do, get out and exercise, take a walk in the sun, etc. and see if that helps clear it up as well.
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So I have a pretty bad ankle sprain (sprained it about 6 weeks ago, still only 70% I'd say) and my girlfriend recommended that I try DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) because it helped her out. I've done some reading on it, found this and read the wikipedia article on it (which mentioned anti inflammatory properties which lends credence to the idea that it would work I guess). What're the thoughts of TL on this stuff? The fact that it's not FDA approved (even if that article claims it's only politics) gives me some pause, but this ankle injury's really getting to piss me off and I'd love if I could find some solution (although a silver bullet solution seems unlikely).
Thanks!! 
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On May 13 2012 01:25 GuiltyJerk wrote:So I have a pretty bad ankle sprain (sprained it about 6 weeks ago, still only 70% I'd say) and my girlfriend recommended that I try DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) because it helped her out. I've done some reading on it, found this and read the wikipedia article on it (which mentioned anti inflammatory properties which lends credence to the idea that it would work I guess). What're the thoughts of TL on this stuff? The fact that it's not FDA approved (even if that article claims it's only politics) gives me some pause, but this ankle injury's really getting to piss me off and I'd love if I could find some solution (although a silver bullet solution seems unlikely). Thanks!!
You can try it.... you can also use typical stuff like aspirin, ibuprofen, etc
And to be honest, best thing to do is to start get it moving as much as possible. Lots of non-painful mobility work and start to regain ROM.
Did you have it checked for potential fractures or anything like that?
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1. centre middle of back radiating out and around
2. appears after activity (bending constantly at work), then is constant until i sleep/painkillers, chronic 4 weeks now maybe more
3. ache
4. from 1 , up to 8 after a particularly shitty shift / before i had naproxen
5. 4 weeks and counting. no real apparent improvement after 7 , and then 10 days away from gym, or 4, and then 4 days off from work. still returns during a work shift
6. no, but i went and PRed my deadlift and done squats with no problems whatsoever. its been another 10 days since i went to the gym or more. not for any particular reason
7. medium depth pain, like the ache you'd get from doing high rep deadlifts immeditately after doing them, except it persists. there was a time where i thought it could be pinched nerve , especially when it suddenly sparked up very painfully when all i was doing was sitting at my chair/desk . but i dont think it is really now. plus would naproxen/antiinflams work for that?
8. had 4 days off in a row from work, a few times. saw doctor and she told me to go ride a goddamn motherfucking bicycle and put me on naproxen. almost broke down in tears coz it was unbareable at work (could barely hold my own bodyweight at the end of some shifts) but has been better than that since.
9. lying flat in bed/sleep a lot makes it go away. i chucked off my memory foam mattress because it was making it worse; i needed a harder surface to lie on to support the back.. what makes it worse is bending and twisting at work for 6 hours straight 10 times per minute. no avoiding this
10. dunno how to check tissue quality
11. beginning of day is fine, end of day hurts
12. no prevous history. back would ache when i worked in nursing home few years ago but nothing persistent
13. idk how my posture is, its better when i dont feel depressed and stressed out and like shit all the time
14. doing starting stre but only been once in like 3 weeks
15. i just wanna know why its so persistent . it seemed to start when i started doing heavier deadlift and heavier power clean, and then went to work afterwards and continued to do bending all the time there. after that it just didnt go away. its like im super susceptible to back ache from mininal bending now; or im unable to recover from bending / aching. idk
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On May 13 2012 01:50 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 01:25 GuiltyJerk wrote:So I have a pretty bad ankle sprain (sprained it about 6 weeks ago, still only 70% I'd say) and my girlfriend recommended that I try DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) because it helped her out. I've done some reading on it, found this and read the wikipedia article on it (which mentioned anti inflammatory properties which lends credence to the idea that it would work I guess). What're the thoughts of TL on this stuff? The fact that it's not FDA approved (even if that article claims it's only politics) gives me some pause, but this ankle injury's really getting to piss me off and I'd love if I could find some solution (although a silver bullet solution seems unlikely). Thanks!! You can try it.... you can also use typical stuff like aspirin, ibuprofen, etc And to be honest, best thing to do is to start get it moving as much as possible. Lots of non-painful mobility work and start to regain ROM. Did you have it checked for potential fractures or anything like that?
I've been wearing an ankle brace pretty much every day, would you suggest ditching that then or just like doing the mobility work before bed? And yeah I got it looked at, they didn't see a break
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On May 13 2012 04:41 FFGenerations wrote:1. centre middle of back radiating out and around + Show Spoiler +2. appears after activity (bending constantly at work), then is constant until i sleep/painkillers, chronic 4 weeks now maybe more
3. ache
4. from 1 , up to 8 after a particularly shitty shift / before i had naproxen
5. 4 weeks and counting. no real apparent improvement after 7 , and then 10 days away from gym, or 4, and then 4 days off from work. still returns during a work shift
6. no, but i went and PRed my deadlift and done squats with no problems whatsoever. its been another 10 days since i went to the gym or more. not for any particular reason
7. medium depth pain, like the ache you'd get from doing high rep deadlifts immeditately after doing them, except it persists. there was a time where i thought it could be pinched nerve , especially when it suddenly sparked up very painfully when all i was doing was sitting at my chair/desk . but i dont think it is really now. plus would naproxen/antiinflams work for that?
8. had 4 days off in a row from work, a few times. saw doctor and she told me to go ride a goddamn motherfucking bicycle and put me on naproxen. almost broke down in tears coz it was unbareable at work (could barely hold my own bodyweight at the end of some shifts) but has been better than that since.
9. lying flat in bed/sleep a lot makes it go away. i chucked off my memory foam mattress because it was making it worse; i needed a harder surface to lie on to support the back.. what makes it worse is bending and twisting at work for 6 hours straight 10 times per minute. no avoiding this
10. dunno how to check tissue quality
11. beginning of day is fine, end of day hurts
12. no prevous history. back would ache when i worked in nursing home few years ago but nothing persistent
13. idk how my posture is, its better when i dont feel depressed and stressed out and like shit all the time
14. doing starting stre but only been once in like 3 weeks
15. i just wanna know why its so persistent . it seemed to start when i started doing heavier deadlift and heavier power clean, and then went to work afterwards and continued to do bending all the time there. after that it just didnt go away. its like im super susceptible to back ache from mininal bending now; or im unable to recover from bending / aching. idk
x
With deadlift or squat it's probably a technical fault like slightly rounding the back at the bottom of squat or near the start of the deadlift and then locking out at the top.
I would very highly suggest seeing a physical therapist if it hasn't gotten better after a week.... not to mention 4 weeks.
The mobility work in the spinal section here might help though:
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/
See what helps and what doesn't help.
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On May 13 2012 05:37 GuiltyJerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 01:50 eshlow wrote:On May 13 2012 01:25 GuiltyJerk wrote:So I have a pretty bad ankle sprain (sprained it about 6 weeks ago, still only 70% I'd say) and my girlfriend recommended that I try DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) because it helped her out. I've done some reading on it, found this and read the wikipedia article on it (which mentioned anti inflammatory properties which lends credence to the idea that it would work I guess). What're the thoughts of TL on this stuff? The fact that it's not FDA approved (even if that article claims it's only politics) gives me some pause, but this ankle injury's really getting to piss me off and I'd love if I could find some solution (although a silver bullet solution seems unlikely). Thanks!! You can try it.... you can also use typical stuff like aspirin, ibuprofen, etc And to be honest, best thing to do is to start get it moving as much as possible. Lots of non-painful mobility work and start to regain ROM. Did you have it checked for potential fractures or anything like that? I've been wearing an ankle brace pretty much every day, would you suggest ditching that then or just like doing the mobility work before bed? And yeah I got it looked at, they didn't see a break
The brace is fine if you have to move around a lot and don't want to aggravate it.
But yes, you should be ditching it for at least some of the day to work on mobility/range of motion/etc. as much as you can....
If you don't know how to rehab it may be a good idea to see a PT. i can probably give a general structure for how to rehab though:
Regain range of motion
Strengthen all of the muscles around the ankle
Re-educate the muscles with "static" balance work -- a lot of single leg stance, and other types of those things... both eyes open and closed.
Two steps:
Work dynamic "balance" with stuff such as foot drills, dot drills, and other agility work.
Integrate sports specific drills
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On May 14 2012 00:40 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 05:37 GuiltyJerk wrote:On May 13 2012 01:50 eshlow wrote:On May 13 2012 01:25 GuiltyJerk wrote:So I have a pretty bad ankle sprain (sprained it about 6 weeks ago, still only 70% I'd say) and my girlfriend recommended that I try DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) because it helped her out. I've done some reading on it, found this and read the wikipedia article on it (which mentioned anti inflammatory properties which lends credence to the idea that it would work I guess). What're the thoughts of TL on this stuff? The fact that it's not FDA approved (even if that article claims it's only politics) gives me some pause, but this ankle injury's really getting to piss me off and I'd love if I could find some solution (although a silver bullet solution seems unlikely). Thanks!! You can try it.... you can also use typical stuff like aspirin, ibuprofen, etc And to be honest, best thing to do is to start get it moving as much as possible. Lots of non-painful mobility work and start to regain ROM. Did you have it checked for potential fractures or anything like that? I've been wearing an ankle brace pretty much every day, would you suggest ditching that then or just like doing the mobility work before bed? And yeah I got it looked at, they didn't see a break The brace is fine if you have to move around a lot and don't want to aggravate it. But yes, you should be ditching it for at least some of the day to work on mobility/range of motion/etc. as much as you can.... If you don't know how to rehab it may be a good idea to see a PT. i can probably give a general structure for how to rehab though: Show nested quote + Regain range of motion
Strengthen all of the muscles around the ankle
Re-educate the muscles with "static" balance work -- a lot of single leg stance, and other types of those things... both eyes open and closed.
Two steps:
Work dynamic "balance" with stuff such as foot drills, dot drills, and other agility work.
Integrate sports specific drills
Thanks for all your help :D:D:D:D <3 it's gotten to the point that I think I'll see a PT later this week, I haven't really had any improvement for the past 2 weeks.
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