Running Thread - Page 52

On September 01 2012 03:47 matthewfoulkes wrote:
I Ran my 20 mile run, it was kind of drab ahah, cos my legs have been sore from mileage, i've decided that im going to do much better for my legs if i run on grass and i've also started running barefoot cos its more fun and it avoids hurting my blisters.


now onto my performance, i ran 20 miles or just over, i like to make sure im running slightly more incase i fuck up my measureing, but it was between 20 and 20 and a half miles, i did it by running 110 times around my local football pitch, it was great, i stopped every 20 or 30 laps to drink and eat for a couple minutes and then continued back on, much like i would in a marathon stopping for supplys at aid stations. this allowed me to stay hydrated and keep me going throughout the whole run.
i managed to do the distance in a time of 2:48, however i think i have pushed myself too far on this run, i think my legs weren't quite ready to shove the distance up so fast yet, i have a sore knee in hindsight it would of been a better idea to cut it at around 18 miles and walked home, but once i'd got that far i sought of couldn't stop myself going the rest. but i will wait til tomorrow to see how my knee actually feels, as currently it is just very stiff.
looking at my pace, i'm very encouraged as i managed to once again up my pace by around 15 seconds per mile, while also upping my distance aswell. however this time i felt more like i was pushing close to my limits, i was feeling some serious stiffness towards the end, and my body started telling me to stop, i think i will leave my long run at 20 miles for a couple weeks, my body definitely won't be ready for any longer distnaces than that for a couple weeks, specially if i am to be careful, however i was still running at a training pace, if i was to push myself for speed i think right now i could cut off the 24 seconds per mile to get to my target pace, obviously that would be a bad play considering i'm still training, but overall this 20 mile, while maybe an overstretch on my current fitness, is encouraging and giving me hope that i can continue to push toward my goal.

On September 01 2012 04:00 dudeman001 wrote:

Great progress mate :D How long do you have until your bet date again?

Keep those injuries at bay and I bet you can do this!

On September 01 2012 04:43 matthewfoulkes wrote:
the original bet was before my birthday, but that just wasn't going to work, as my birthday is the 6th and the first uk marathon in october is the 7th, but i decided to go with the liverpool marathon, as it is only a short train ride from the city where i am studying for uni, thats on the 14th, so 8 days after the original bet. so i have a total of 43 days.
but yea like you said its all about making sure i balance training hard and putting in serious mileage against listening to my body and not breaking my body before i run the race.
i'm fairly confident at the moment, my sore knee cleared right up, my legs are still sore from fatigue, but i'm going to take tomorrow off and just give myself a day to recover then go for some fast runs and get some hill climbing done, my only fear is there isn't hills near me big enough to stop me :D.


also L master, you're my running thread hero, I actually enjoyed my run, i didn't get bored, I listened to music for about 50 percent of it,from about lap 30-lap 80 but after that i chucked it out so i could i listen to my body and focus on my form as my body started to wear, but i ended up running around for the last 2 hours in nothing but my boxers because the swimming shorts i went out in were slightly too big and were falling down again and again, and i just couldn't be fucked to adjust them again and again . the people walking there dogs gave the weirdest looks hahah.


After i finish my 3:30 marathon, whether that is on attempt 1,2,3 or 20, I hope to move down the distances and become some kind of athlete at my uni, cross country was something i loved as a kid but was never very good at, i was on the cusp of being good enough to get on the team at the start of secondary school (high school), but never was quite good enough, so i want to go hard and use running to not only be a good runner but a very strong all round athlete.

On September 01 2012 03:47 matthewfoulkes wrote:
I Ran my 20 mile run, it was kind of drab ahah, cos my legs have been sore from mileage, i've decided that im going to do much better for my legs if i run on grass and i've also started running barefoot cos its more fun and it avoids hurting my blisters.


now onto my performance, i ran 20 miles or just over, i like to make sure im running slightly more incase i fuck up my measureing, but it was between 20 and 20 and a half miles, i did it by running 110 times around my local football pitch, it was great, i stopped every 20 or 30 laps to drink and eat for a couple minutes and then continued back on, much like i would in a marathon stopping for supplys at aid stations. this allowed me to stay hydrated and keep me going throughout the whole run.
i managed to do the distance in a time of 2:48, however i think i have pushed myself too far on this run, i think my legs weren't quite ready to shove the distance up so fast yet, i have a sore knee in hindsight it would of been a better idea to cut it at around 18 miles and walked home, but once i'd got that far i sought of couldn't stop myself going the rest. but i will wait til tomorrow to see how my knee actually feels, as currently it is just very stiff.
looking at my pace, i'm very encouraged as i managed to once again up my pace by around 15 seconds per mile, while also upping my distance aswell. however this time i felt more like i was pushing close to my limits, i was feeling some serious stiffness towards the end, and my body started telling me to stop, i think i will leave my long run at 20 miles for a couple weeks, my body definitely won't be ready for any longer distnaces than that for a couple weeks, specially if i am to be careful, however i was still running at a training pace, if i was to push myself for speed i think right now i could cut off the 24 seconds per mile to get to my target pace, obviously that would be a bad play considering i'm still training, but overall this 20 mile, while maybe an overstretch on my current fitness, is encouraging and giving me hope that i can continue to push toward my goal.

On September 01 2012 04:43 matthewfoulkes wrote:
the original bet was before my birthday, but that just wasn't going to work, as my birthday is the 6th and the first uk marathon in october is the 7th, but i decided to go with the liverpool marathon, as it is only a short train ride from the city where i am studying for uni, thats on the 14th, so 8 days after the original bet. so i have a total of 43 days.
but yea like you said its all about making sure i balance training hard and putting in serious mileage against listening to my body and not breaking my body before i run the race.
i'm fairly confident at the moment, my sore knee cleared right up, my legs are still sore from fatigue, but i'm going to take tomorrow off and just give myself a day to recover then go for some fast runs and get some hill climbing done, my only fear is there isn't hills near me big enough to stop me :D.


also L master, you're my running thread hero, I actually enjoyed my run, i didn't get bored, I listened to music for about 50 percent of it,from about lap 30-lap 80 but after that i chucked it out so i could i listen to my body and focus on my form as my body started to wear, but i ended up running around for the last 2 hours in nothing but my boxers because the swimming shorts i went out in were slightly too big and were falling down again and again, and i just couldn't be fucked to adjust them again and again . the people walking there dogs gave the weirdest looks hahah.


After i finish my 3:30 marathon, whether that is on attempt 1,2,3 or 20, I hope to move down the distances and become some kind of athlete at my uni, cross country was something i loved as a kid but was never very good at, i was on the cusp of being good enough to get on the team at the start of secondary school (high school), but never was quite good enough, so i want to go hard and use running to not only be a good runner but a very strong all round athlete.

On September 01 2012 11:47 AirbladeOrange wrote:


Be careful running 20 miles around a small field. Especially if you're making sharp turns it could get you hurt. If you still choose to continue to do this at least change the direction you're going a few times.



Running in only your boxers? Hahaha. That's a funny image to think about. Get some running shorts with lining dude. How can you run 20 miles in boxers? That sounds terrible. The thought of my junk flopping around for 3 hours bothers me.

Edit: You stopped your watch between breaks didn't you? If you did you can't really rely on the time you ran as a race simulation with your breaks because clocks don't stop during races.

On September 01 2012 18:17 matthewfoulkes wrote:
I didn't stop my watch, that is my time including my breaks, and i ended up taking a fair few of them, i obviously wouldn't run 20 miles and then go hurrr durrr i took about 15 minutes of breaks but they don't actually count as part of the race, in terms of actual running pace i felt i was running comfortable pace the whole time but that i should stop not only cos i was getting hungry as fuck,had a fruit breakfast, not the carb fest i need to run that distance, so i just continued to graze on the fruit and nut mix and bananas i brought down with me, i'm not sure whether i could of run the same without the breaks as eating in small bursts along the run was very useful and it kept me satisfied and full while avoiding any of the common problems with eating before/during runs, as i tend to get stitches badly i'm learning to run through the stiches, is this the right way to deal with them when I get them.
it was also kind of a little bit chilly in terms of wind temp, so my junk ended up tightening up and not flying around as much i was expecting, i need to get a proper pair of running shorts, but i actually loved running in basically nothing haha, if I could go naked running I probably would(take barefoot running and turn it into barebum running ) , what kind of running shorts do you suggest, cos up until now i just stick on a pair of my swimming trunks and head out in them, it just happened the pair i put on were a tiny bit big and dropped down every lap, keep in mind I don't really have that much money to spend till I get my student finance, I'm currently waiting on some cash flow so i can put in my entry for my marathon. £60 is allot to pay just to run myself into the ground, but I stand to win over £250 back and a hell of allot of pride and accomplishment if I do it.

On September 02 2012 00:55 AirbladeOrange wrote:


Just go to a local sporting goods store and try some shorts on and see what is comfortable for you.

If you didn't stop your watch then you're probably right on your pace for the time you spent running. If you stopped 4-5 times for 2 minutes or less you're hitting right about an 8 minute mile pace while running.

On September 02 2012 01:17 L_Master wrote:


It's worth noting that in a marathon people don't typically stop for there breaks. They consume their fluids/drinks/gels/etc. while on the run. At some point I would recommend adjusting to that as if your not used to it eating/drinking on the run can be a little awkward.

On August 24 2012 08:02 matthewfoulkes wrote:
im sorry im not willing to budge, i'm going to aim for 3:30 and if i hit above that, i take 2 weeks break or so, running only very casually then i will get back on the horse and start training for the next one, til i complete this challenge.

On September 03 2012 00:49 stOrpse wrote:
Running is great for cardiovascular health and losing weight.

On September 03 2012 08:47 Opponent wrote:
I recently started running again about 3 months ago, right now I am focusing on building up my weekly mileage (I'm at 30 right now and want to get to 40 a week). I want to know if it is wise to start mixing in some intervals once I will be able to run 40 easy miles a week.

I have never done any intervals training ever, I used to mainly focus on tempo runs to build my V02 max. I would like to do one or 2 intervals training per week. Could you guys tell me what kind of intervals i should be focusing on to develop my V02 max and how i should do them ?

As of now, I run 6x times a week, I do 5 easy runs of 5 miles per day with a tempo run of 5 miles whenever day of the week my body feels great. I can run a mile in 7 minutes if that helps.

Thx in advance !

On September 03 2012 11:37 Opponent wrote:
Alright, I will make sure my body can handle the weekly mileage of 40 miles before doing interval training and I will add a long run per week.

I read somewhere about HIIT and how it greatly increases the V02 Max, but I'm affraid to get injured since im still building my aerobic strenght. Should I consider using the technique someday or should I stick to standard intervals training ?

Also, what is the anaerobic capacity and how does it increase the cardio ?