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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
i'm an asian 20year old skinny dude looking to bulk up and grow some muscles. im currently ~5'8 and 106lbs. is there some thread that specifically deals with this (skinny people looking to bulk up / muscle up). i've browsed the stickied stuff and they're mostly links to articles that are about general bulking up or even people who are fat trying to convert fats to muscles. long story short, could someone point me in the right direction / thread / forums / website? thanks a bunch! | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 26 2011 23:42 Daigomi wrote: Can someone explain bf% and cutting to me? When I started SL, I weighed 81kg at 18% bf. After almost two months now, I weigh around 85kg at 18% bf. What I'm not sure about is what this means. If I picked up 4kg without a change in bf%, does that imply that 82% of the weight I picked up is muscle (i.e. 3.2kg muscle)? In the same vein, does 18% bf of 85kg mean that there's 15kg fat, and will dropping my weight by 5kg (without losing muscle mass) decrease my bf% to 12%? I'm not sure if I'm oversimplifying things or if things are that simple. I thought I'd start cutting once I reach my weightlifting first goals, which are still a few months away, but these questions have been bothering me so I thought I'd ask. Just do the calcs 82kg * 18% bf = 14.76 kg fat, then subtract that from 82kg = 67.24kg lean mass 85kg * 18% bf = 15.3 kg fat, 69.7kg lean mass So you've gained about 2.5kg of lean mass, and about .5kg of fat. That's generally a pretty good ratio when you're trying to gain weight. If you drop 5kg of fat on cut on 85kg then you will have ~10kg of fat and ~70kg of lean mass = fat / total weight = (10 / (10+70)) = 12.5% bf | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 26 2011 23:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i've tried using the search function but couldn't quite get the right results (perhaps it doesn't exist). i'm an asian 20year old skinny dude looking to bulk up and grow some muscles. im currently ~5'8 and 106lbs. is there some thread that specifically deals with this (skinny people looking to bulk up / muscle up). i've browsed the stickied stuff and they're mostly links to articles that are about general bulking up or even people who are fat trying to convert fats to muscles. long story short, could someone point me in the right direction / thread / forums / website? thanks a bunch! General training thread..... general bulking is what you want. THAT is what general bulking is.... skinny people trying to gain muscle. Starting Strength + eat a lot | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On October 27 2011 00:29 eshlow wrote: Just do the calcs 82kg * 18% bf = 14.76 kg fat, then subtract that from 82kg = 67.24kg lean mass 85kg * 18% bf = 15.3 kg fat, 69.7kg lean mass So you've gained about 2.5kg of lean mass, and about .5kg of fat. That's generally a pretty good ratio when you're trying to gain weight. If you drop 5kg of fat on cut on 85kg then you will have ~10kg of fat and ~70kg of lean mass = fat / total weight = (10 / (10+70)) = 12.5% bf Ok cool thanks. That's kinda what I did, was just worried that I was oversimplifying it  | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On October 27 2011 00:32 eshlow wrote: General training thread..... general bulking is what you want. THAT is what general bulking is.... skinny people trying to gain muscle. Starting Strength + eat a lot thanks! i looked at that thread, found no mention of general bulking. i did see starting strength and read it a bit, but it isnt exactly helpful. i'm more looking for something really from scratch, starting from what i eat (exactly how much and what, how often?). eat a lot is something everyone tells me, even i know that. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On October 27 2011 01:09 nyxnyxnyx wrote: thanks! i looked at that thread, found no mention of general bulking. i did see starting strength and read it a bit, but it isnt exactly helpful. i'm more looking for something really from scratch, starting from what i eat (exactly how much and what, how often?). eat a lot is something everyone tells me, even i know that. Starting strength is really from scratch for exercise, and if you want to bulk up you should probably do something like SS while eating a lot. When it comes to how much to eat, as far as I know 3000 calories is the minimum you're supposed to be eating a day, and then you should increase it by 500 calories if you don't pick up weight after a week. There's some debate on what you're supposed to be eating, with Paleo being healthier, but eating other things is also ok as long as you're getting in 2g of protein per kg bodyweight per day (e.g. 120g of protein per day if you weigh 60kg). When you eat (or how often) doesn't really matter. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
The bulking part -- e.g. what you eat -- I put in the nutrition thread. Or read the Paleo thread. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
Whats the opinion on training while being sick? I came down with a cold, runny nose, sore throat, slight headaches and all the fun. Already dosed up on tea and vit d. Today i felt pretty good, but i coughed sometimes and my nose still runs, throat isn't sore anymore, no more headaches. Should i resume heavy training tomorrow? I really want to. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 27 2011 07:04 glurio wrote: At 106lbs i recommend eating everything in sight. And drink a gallon of whole milk with it. Get some cake, ice cream, cheeseburgers. Whats the opinion on training while being sick? I came down with a cold, runny nose, sore throat, slight headaches and all the fun. Already dosed up on tea and vit d. Today i felt pretty good, but i coughed sometimes and my nose still runs, throat isn't sore anymore, no more headaches. Should i resume heavy training tomorrow? I really want to. If it's a head cold, ok. Warm up and see how you feel. If it's more in the throaty/chesty area I would say no. | ||
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dOofuS
United States342 Posts
Problems: I am currently holding an 8-5 job washing cars at a local dealership. I find myself lacking time to get much done other than come home from work, browse TL/Facebook, Skype with my fiance, and play Battlefield 3 (even this is pushing it). I don't usually eat breakfast in the morning and head straight to work, I have an hour lunch break and usually eat leftovers, I may or may not eat again at the end of the day when I'm hungry again. Fast food is also a problem, when I don't have leftovers or forget to pack a lunch. I'm basically on a 1-2 meal/day lifestyle. About me:
What I'm asking:
If I've left anything out, let me know. I'm willing to include more personal information, eating habits, pictures, or whatever it takes. Help me out TL, I want to be sexy! (Perhaps this deserves its own thread?) | ||
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 27 2011 16:24 dOofuS wrote: I'm currently engaged to be married in April, and would like to improve my physique prior to the wedding. This gives me about 5 months as a goal. Problems: I am currently holding an 8-5 job washing cars at a local dealership. I find myself lacking time to get much done other than come home from work, browse TL/Facebook, Skype with my fiance, and play Battlefield 3 (even this is pushing it). I don't usually eat breakfast in the morning and head straight to work, I have an hour lunch break and usually eat leftovers, I may or may not eat again at the end of the day when I'm hungry again. Fast food is also a problem, when I don't have leftovers or forget to pack a lunch. I'm basically on a 1-2 meal/day lifestyle. About me:
What I'm asking:
If I've left anything out, let me know. I'm willing to include more personal information, eating habits, pictures, or whatever it takes. Help me out TL, I want to be sexy! (Perhaps this deserves its own thread?) 1. Losing weight is 80-85% nutrition. Read the nutrition sticky. I would invest in a crock pot... pretty easy to throw in some veggies, meat, spices and you have a quick healthy stew you can use for breakfast, lunch, dinner, etc. 2. General training sticky -- recommend STarting Strength program for those who are new. 3. Cut out BF2, and TL/FB browsing... it really does waste a lot of time. PRIORITIZE. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 27 2011 16:25 ViperPL wrote: Is corn cob any good to be part of a diet? Recently I started working out and revamped my food cause I'm overweight and want to change it. I picked different recommended stuff but how about corn, I couldn't find much info about this specific thing. Sure. It's a non-process vegetable. Although other veges are probably more nutrious I have corn once in a while | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On October 26 2011 06:21 phyre112 wrote: I don't think it would be a problem, but I want to check it here. I've got a friend of mine starting out stronglifts 5x5, but instead of doing rows I showed him Power Cleans. Assuming he has someone to teach him proper form, would doing power cleans 5x3 and a single set to failure of BW chinups be worse/better than doing Rows, as are prescribed in the actual program? Quoting myself since this got lost, and because He's actually stuck to the program for a week now, so there might be a future here. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
@dOofuS Pretty much everyone is hesitant to enter the gym for the first time. Read Starting Strength, once you know what you're doing it's really easy. Just go in, work out, and leave. Go the next day, increase the weights, work out and leave. Simple as that. Depending on how hard you work and your diet, you can get pretty fit in five months. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8138/tabla.jpg) Edit: Its in spanish unfortunatately. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Plus, read this on the trypsin inhibitors in soy products: http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/is_soy_that_bad Basically, don't use soy products. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
I have donated blood regularly ever since I was 18, and I started lifting seriously about ~9 months ago. It's 0.5L a donation and about once every 2/3 months. The doctors at the clinic just said not to come before working out, and they didn't know much about donating blood whilst doing strength training. I work out 3 days in the week, and I donate on an off day. I know that it harms my recovery a bit, but I want to keep donating blood. Are there ways to limit the effect it has on the recovery process? I currently just drink a bunch of water to get the fluids, take a multivitamin and eat a lot after donating. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
Don't donate on a lifting day. | ||
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