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Clutch3
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1344 Posts
April 18 2005 02:13 GMT
#41
On April 13 2005 22:10 Servolisk wrote:

No, since high school kids still have a higher proportion of success (atleast if you don't include high school aged foreign players, I don't really have these numbers on hand). It isn't as if there aren't college busts either. For every Grant Hill there is a Christian Laettner. There are a lot of college stars that can't play in the NBA. Two of the fab-five didn't even make it to the NBA...


By that logic, every high school player from the St. Vincent-St. Mary's high school squad should come out of HS directly into the NBA. (all of them who have declared have succeeded) You can't compare the talent level of those players who come straight from high school with the talent level of EVERY college player. What you have to compare is the prospects for a given player or group of players on the two options: 1) coming out of HS versus 2) going to college.

We can debate whether Jermaine O'Neal would have been better off going to college, but it's still ridiculous to take one of the minority of high-school declarees who has become an all-star in the NBA as a "garden-variety case"; it's treating a relative outlier as the norm. What you can't really debate is that those people who didn't get drafted would DEFINITELY have had better results going to college.

And of course, no one has mentioned that college is still, you know, a place where you learn stuff. At least some NBA players still take advantage of that...
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
April 18 2005 03:07 GMT
#42
mmm

cas is god T_T
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 18 2005 03:46 GMT
#43
On April 18 2005 11:13 Clutch3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2005 22:10 Servolisk wrote:

No, since high school kids still have a higher proportion of success (atleast if you don't include high school aged foreign players, I don't really have these numbers on hand). It isn't as if there aren't college busts either. For every Grant Hill there is a Christian Laettner. There are a lot of college stars that can't play in the NBA. Two of the fab-five didn't even make it to the NBA...


By that logic, every high school player from the St. Vincent-St. Mary's high school squad should come out of HS directly into the NBA. (all of them who have declared have succeeded) You can't compare the talent level of those players who come straight from high school with the talent level of EVERY college player. What you have to compare is the prospects for a given player or group of players on the two options: 1) coming out of HS versus 2) going to college.

We can debate whether Jermaine O'Neal would have been better off going to college, but it's still ridiculous to take one of the minority of high-school declarees who has become an all-star in the NBA as a "garden-variety case"; it's treating a relative outlier as the norm. What you can't really debate is that those people who didn't get drafted would DEFINITELY have had better results going to college.

And of course, no one has mentioned that college is still, you know, a place where you learn stuff. At least some NBA players still take advantage of that...


I wasn't saying JO is a garden variety case, I only discussed him because you said he would have been better at college. The only way there would even be room to discuss if JO would be better at college would be as I said for him to be about the best player in the game which is pretty ridiculous.

As for people who don't get drafted... what exactly is stopping them from going to college after not being drafted?

Sure you learn stuff at college, but you can learn in other places too... The primary goal for most people is to start developing their career, which these people already have a huge advantage on. Plus, college is not a place where college basketball players learn stuff. Ask Charles Barkley
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tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
April 18 2005 13:59 GMT
#44
when you declare for the draft you give up your eligibility to play college ball, as far as i know
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-18 14:22:27
April 18 2005 14:22 GMT
#45
what is wrong with making it a personal choice? there should be no age limit whatsoever. if you're five years old and good enough you should be able to play. -_-
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