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Keanu_Reaver
Profile Joined March 2003
Djibouti1432 Posts
April 12 2005 13:50 GMT
#1
stern is pushing to make an age limit of 20. at first i was for it but jermaine oneal made some pretty good points, so now i think it should not be upped.

thoughts?
why did the baby cross the road? because it was stapled to the chicken!
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
April 12 2005 14:06 GMT
#2
could you link to the j o'neal discussion? because as of now i'm all for potential nba players going through at least one year of college before turning pro
choujji
Profile Joined January 2005
Japan203 Posts
April 12 2005 14:10 GMT
#3
just let them play ball at 18
even if u force them to goto university for 1-2 years, its not like they're in it for the education
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
April 12 2005 14:10 GMT
#4
its good for the country though isnt it..?

keeps the NCAA alive with the players forced to stay there

and also, allows the countries best atheletes to also get at least an under-grad in university
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
April 12 2005 14:16 GMT
#5
Literate, well spoken people like lebron james and kobe bryant completely skipped college while retarded thugs like iverson went to college.

I dont really see a point in making players wait 2 years, its dumb. Just naming the best players in the NBA, the about half did not go to college: lebron, kobe, garnett, tmac. the only ones who did are duncan, shaq, iverson and wade. Like choujii said, if people are forced to go to college they arent going there for education, it wont change who they are or do anything besides make the league LESS money.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Keanu_Reaver
Profile Joined March 2003
Djibouti1432 Posts
April 12 2005 14:17 GMT
#6
watched it on NBA nation i believe, and the link it has in espn.com was really a bad over view of what he was saying.

he basically said this:

at 18, a person is considered an adult, to be able to make adult choices. a person can then choose to go into the army, to college, or to play basketball. there is nothing wrong with letting players play out of high school, 7 all stars this year were players that went from high school to the nba, if its not broke it shouldn't be fixed. most any other sport with the exception of football doesn't even have an age limit, that 14 year olds will play soccer and young girls will figure skate professionally. he also said that economically, with the more player driven nba, sales have been higher they've ever been.

he then went on to say that he cant figure out why they want to up the limit. economically, there's no point because some of the biggest stars are straight out of high school, and sales have never been higher. protecting the hs basketball players is disingenuous because they've been successful and nba teams wont draft them unless they show huge potential.

all in all, i found it really difficult to refute what he said
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
April 12 2005 14:17 GMT
#7
Although, march madness is the pinnacle of all sporting events, and it would be nice to see top players in that, but it's a waste of their talent for the regular seasons.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Keanu_Reaver
Profile Joined March 2003
Djibouti1432 Posts
April 12 2005 14:18 GMT
#8
On April 12 2005 23:16 BigBalls wrote:
Literate, well spoken people like lebron james and kobe bryant completely skipped college while retarded thugs like iverson went to college.

I dont really see a point in making players wait 2 years, its dumb. Just naming the best players in the NBA, the about half did not go to college: lebron, kobe, garnett, tmac. the only ones who did are duncan, shaq, iverson and wade. Like choujii said, if people are forced to go to college they arent going there for education, it wont change who they are or do anything besides make the league LESS money.


agreed about the college thing, which is something else oneal pointed too
why did the baby cross the road? because it was stapled to the chicken!
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
April 12 2005 14:31 GMT
#9
iverson is not the thug he used to be, i hope you just have a bias against him bigballs

i think a good arguement for going to college is the opportunity to play under real coaches, not some underpaid high school physical education teacher. but then again, a player could always skip straight to the nba and learn from even better coaches, but this would be at the expense of the team and owner that drafted him
choujji
Profile Joined January 2005
Japan203 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-12 14:59:50
April 12 2005 14:56 GMT
#10
one suggestion that i would make for the league is to lower the $$$ paid for high school draft pick. With the exception of lebron, most of the star high school players like tmac, mcgrady, o'neal (jemaine) were initially liabilities for teams for the first few years. Since their fundamentals were not as well tunned as one who went to play college ball, they should be paid initially less just like any other job situation. But i guess teams will still take those few wasted years if they see great potential thats going to unfold in 4-5 years down the road and dont want other teams to get them.

It might deter some high schoolers or it might not but atleast it ll save teams a lot of money for those development years that these players should have gotten in college
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-12 15:04:01
April 12 2005 15:03 GMT
#11
the player's union is a bunch of elderly faggots (nba players) who are (rightfully) concerned about all these 18 year olds coming in and rendering them obsolete

they're also going to be renegotiating the collective bargaining agreement (much slimmer, a smaller pie since jordan left and NBC dropped them) this summer and they're willing to make concessions

if it were left to them (the union) they'd up the age limit, but it's not up to them since the next big high schooler from next year would take this to court and WIN BIG as the labor laws in the states are so fucking ABC and clear on this matter that it's ridiculous

so ignore the talk. billy hunter is a putz. there are hundreds of marginal NBA players who are rapidly becoming obsolete. they need to deal with it, and we as consumers shouldn't tolerate an artificially inferior product being forced upon us. besides, the NBA set up the NBDL specifically to deal with the unprepared highschool straight to NBA flunkeys and has done a pretty good job of it.

hence, stern's indifference is more to placate the union into letting them believe that it could actually happen before the weight of public opinion does his work for him forcing billy hunter to stop making retarded statements to the media about "maturity" or some other bullshit.
JAM THE FUCKER!
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
April 12 2005 17:24 GMT
#12
sounds gay to me, i'm not gonna go read about what was said, but that's just stopping kids from getting pro contracts out of highschool
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 12 2005 17:40 GMT
#13
It's totally awful. Though as a Detroit fan it would of been good for Darko Milicic.

I hate people talking about it being good because of the benefit to the college game. I don't know why people want to do so much for college when they basically exploit the atheletes.

Stern is doing this (if he does go through with it) for the sake of the NBDL.

There are zero legitimate reasons for this.
wtf was that signature
-DaJ-
Profile Joined April 2004
Switzerland539 Posts
April 12 2005 18:17 GMT
#14
On April 12 2005 23:16 BigBalls wrote:
I dont really see a point in making players wait 2 years, its dumb. Just naming the best players in the NBA, the about half did not go to college: lebron, kobe, garnett, tmac. the only ones who did are duncan, shaq, iverson and wade.


ok now lets see are the ones with college those who win champions ships or the ones without? hmm....

lebron, kobe, garnett, tmac might be "the best"...but the only thing in the finals that really counts is the TEAM not one player. and thats what ur "best" players have to learn ...
Dear God, my brilliance is becoming a bit of a burden.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 12 2005 18:23 GMT
#15
I hate to break it to you but Kobe has won championships, Wade still hasn't.
wtf was that signature
-DaJ-
Profile Joined April 2004
Switzerland539 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-12 18:40:57
April 12 2005 18:36 GMT
#16
yes, but common was it kobe that brought the championship to LA or was it the constellation of the TEAM? it is never one single person who decides a game its always the TEAM.
even jordan had pippen, kukoc, harper, rodman and so on.it wasnt only MJ it was the TEAM. He was the best allrounder and team leader, no doubt. but he had always the team in his back.
come on it cant be that hard to understand....
Dear God, my brilliance is becoming a bit of a burden.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 12 2005 19:03 GMT
#17
Yes of course it is a team game but that doesn't differ between high school and pro?
wtf was that signature
Comeondieyoung
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany23 Posts
April 12 2005 19:07 GMT
#18
I guess it was more Shaq than Kobe in L.A.
-DaJ-
Profile Joined April 2004
Switzerland539 Posts
April 12 2005 19:59 GMT
#19
@ servolisk:
thats exactly my point.
but i didnt tell u rofl kk, sorry. here it goes: in my opinion in the college u learn how to play in a team. u have to go through college to be mature enough to understand the game. the hischool players might be athlete enough for the nba but their mind is not ready...
Dear God, my brilliance is becoming a bit of a burden.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 12 2005 21:16 GMT
#20
Uh so then they either shape up or ship out? I mean, if you can't adapt, well, sorry, you are fucked.

That's how I reason --;

And I don't even know shit about this, just that what you say isn't logical ;o! No one is forcing anyone to recruit them!
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