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On April 13 2005 04:07 Comeondieyoung wrote:
I guess it was more Shaq than Kobe in L.A.
Yep, and Shaq went to college.
Don't forget that for every Kobe, there's a Felipe Lopez. If you don't know who that is, you've proven the point...
At the same time, there's really no legal foundation for an age limit. Still, Jermaine O'Neal's arguments were pretty bad. Way to pull the race card and make everyone forget about any real legitimate reasons you might have had. And Jermaine came right out of high school and had NO effect for his team and almost no playing time for four years -- an entire college career! Almost without question, he probably would have been better served having gone to school. But of course, that's his choice.
And it is silly that college is the NBA farm system. The NBDL really should be made into a legitimate option for up-and-coming players.
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Jermaine O'Neal didn't get enough playing time in Portland, when he went to Indiana he was the focal point of the offense, and that is why he did better over there. Same thing with T-mac, if you watched the first round of the playoffs that raptors played against the knicks you'd see, carter was going into bitch mode by shooting all game, while tmac was doing the real scoring. T-Mac was just as good before, but bad coaching by Butch Carter, and basically not enough playing time.
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yea jermaine didnt get any play cause that had rasheed and t-mac didnt get much play cause of Carter.same with kobe cause of eddie jones.they were all benched but look at them now  i dont think them going to college would have had any effect except maybe them making college ball better i guess.its not like they just draft anyone out of highsschool u have to have some potential.look at it this way carmello went to college won the ncaa and still wasnt drafted be4 the highschool phenom college means nothing!
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Daj, your argument makes no sense.
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I got a question, where do all NCAA profits go? They probably make billions of dollars a year through T.V contracts alone.
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What they dont tell you stat.quo is that the top ncaa players all get huge salaries. That is how they are convinced to actually go to college
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but seriously, it is a pretty good question. i have no clue
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On April 13 2005 09:54 Stat.Quo wrote:
I got a question, where do all NCAA profits go? They probably make billions of dollars a year through T.V contracts alone.
most likely to the schools
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On April 13 2005 09:54 Stat.Quo wrote:
I got a question, where do all NCAA profits go? They probably make billions of dollars a year through T.V contracts alone.
also ncaa basketball players, while not earning a salary, will get athletic scholarships which will be worth tens of thousands (or more) in value
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nevertheless, imo it is still worthwhile to go to college for at least one year to get a better foundation, and possibly more money in the nba immediately
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give up a quarter mil to play with players who can't hold your jock for a 30 game season while learning what 2+2 is; on the plus side u get to bang countless hot 18 year olds and push a lexus paid for by the college
or get that money and practice with the best ballers on earth every day and learn how to be a pro while still banging countless hot 18 year olds along with some 21 and 24 and 27 year olds and pushing a lexus u paid for
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^ takes you into the randy male mind
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ha
i knew i missed TL for a reason
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i wonder if there are any homosexual players in the nba
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On April 13 2005 21:34 tiffany wrote:
i wonder if there are any homosexual players in the nba
McGrady said about 5%.
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Kobe wasn't good his first few years. KG wasn't either. Oneal wasn't good enough to start. You have one legit 18 year old standout player and that's Lebron. The NBA needs to protect it's product and set an age cap at 20. The reason is simple. They don't want better players being taken off teams for 18 year old children and they don't want lottery teams to be forced to draft on hunches that a kid might become great because that destroys the lottery system!
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On April 13 2005 06:24 Clutch3 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2005 04:07 Comeondieyoung wrote:
I guess it was more Shaq than Kobe in L.A. Yep, and Shaq went to college.
It doesn't matter for this argument though.
Don't forget that for every Kobe, there's a Felipe Lopez. If you don't know who that is, you've proven the point...
No, since high school kids still have a higher proportion of success (atleast if you don't include high school aged foreign players, I don't really have these numbers on hand). It isn't as if there aren't college busts either. For every Grant Hill there is a Christian Laettner. There are a lot of college stars that can't play in the NBA. Two of the fab-five didn't even make it to the NBA...
At the same time, there's really no legal foundation for an age limit. Still, Jermaine O'Neal's arguments were pretty bad. Way to pull the race card and make everyone forget about any real legitimate reasons you might have had. And Jermaine came right out of high school and had NO effect for his team and almost no playing time for four years -- an entire college career! Almost without question, he probably would have been better served having gone to school. But of course, that's his choice.
O'Neal said he wasn't playing the race card. Jermaine had a lot of thoughtful arguments, and then is asked if race is a factor, he says "as a black guy, you wonder about that". So the media being what it is comes out saying he is accusing Stern of racism or something like that. To put it to rest, JO said he doesn't have any reason to call it or anyone racist. You'd think that would be enough...
Why are you saying he would have been better off going to school? You really think your in a position to disagree with his assessment on the subject? Or say Rasheed Wallace, a former teammate who had a large hand in his development during those years on the bench? On top of all that, how can he have been better served by going to college? Many have problems making the transition from college to the NBA game. What can possibly have served him better than developing into one of the top players in the game? He was served to the max, unless you think college would of had him dominating like Wilt Chamberlain. I have no doubt his game and finances would be behind.
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but isn't that what a draft is - picking a player that could potentially improve your team to a contender, but also could potentially bomb
referring to verbose's post
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This reminds me of economics class at my first semester of college. We learned about opprotunity cost, and who should be on a picture for the subject but Kobe Bryant! The caption read something like, "Kobe Bryant understood opprotunity cost".
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