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On September 20 2011 10:11 MeShiet wrote: Thanks for the quick reply decaf, I'm not afraid of anything other than how getting an extra gym session in will affect my school schedule. Right now, I want to squat harder than ever, getting pinned after a clean is so damn embarrassing. Haha yeah thats never good. There's currently like less than 10kg difference between my max CJ and my max FS as far as i can tell...so obviously i need to raise my FS cause i'm pretty sure i can pull more than 145 but i wouldn't make it past the sticking point in the top half of the squat.
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On September 20 2011 09:47 J.E.G. wrote: John "Grizzly" Age: 26 || Height: 6'3" || Weight: 250lbs Starting Date: 09/19/11 || Goal Date: 06/03/12 Weight goals -- 210lbs Training goals -- [not sure yet] Nutrition goals -- [not sure yet] Misc goals -- [not sure yet]
down from 283 since jan 2010. Would have lost more by now but have run into a number of injuries from playing soccer and joint fatigue from running (hamstring, both knees, ankle). Started daily cycling a month ago and have seen rapid results. Good combo of cardio (myth or not for weight loss, it's still good for you) and weight training (climbing hills when you weigh 250lbs is fucking hard!). Also doing upper body routines in the gym 3x/week. Congrats on your progress! You seem to have something that works for you, so I won't recommend anything workout related. What have you been eating? If you're trying to clean up your diet then I highly recommend you check out the Paleo diet in the OP.
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On September 20 2011 09:53 Froadac wrote: Eshlow: Went to gym today to do lifts. Coach guy remarked that my hips are always rotated very forward. Like very very very far forward. How can you correct that?
At 4 eggs and 2 slices of toast for breakfast though. Calories ><
Could be any multidude of things.
Weak hammies, tight hip flexors, weak abdominals, etc.
I would do some stretches for your quads and hip flexors and see if that helps
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6 week update from Strong lifts:
Starting Weight / Current Weight Squats 95 5X5 / 170 5X5 +75 lbs Bench 115 5X5 / 150 5X5 +35 lbs Deadlift 135 1X5 / 215 1X5 +80 lbs BentRows 65 5X5 / 130 5X5 +65 lbs Press 65 5X5 / 100 5X5 +35 lbs
Body Weight: 143 / 153 + 10 lbs
I have a question about bent over rows though, I get a weird feeling in my groin when im doing them just as im getting out of them. Is this normal? Is this just a flexibility issue or a form issue?
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Hmm I did some dls at higher weights today. Work weight is 185 but I felt really good afterwards so did one rep at 225 then another at 275. Should I be upping my work weight by 20lb each from 185 or make more of a jump to something like 220?
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On September 20 2011 10:40 Mementoss wrote: 6 week update from Strong lifts:
Starting Weight / Current Weight Squats 95 5X5 / 170 5X5 +75 lbs Bench 115 5X5 / 150 5X5 +35 lbs Deadlift 135 1X5 / 215 1X5 +80 lbs BentRows 65 5X5 / 130 5X5 +65 lbs Press 65 5X5 / 100 5X5 +35 lbs
Body Weight: 143 / 153 + 10 lbs
I have a question about bent over rows though, I get a weird feeling in my groin when im doing them just as im getting out of them. Is this normal? Is this just a flexibility issue or a form issue?
Nice progress.
Regarding your question, not enough information to tell whether it's an injury/flexibility/or something else.
On September 20 2011 11:07 infinity21 wrote: Hmm I did some dls at higher weights today. Work weight is 185 but I felt really good afterwards so did one rep at 225 then another at 275. Should I be upping my work weight by 20lb each from 185 or make more of a jump to something like 220?
Are you working back into it after having previously lifted weights? If so, things will come back much faster than as a new person. 15-20 lbs jumps may not be out of the question if this is the case.
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No I've never done DLs until a month ago
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On September 20 2011 11:56 infinity21 wrote: No I've never done DLs until a month ago
You're on SS? or SL5x5?
Feel free to make some 20 lbs jumps for 3 sessions and then evaluate where you're at.
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On September 20 2011 12:06 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 11:56 infinity21 wrote: No I've never done DLs until a month ago You're on SS? or SL5x5? Feel free to make some 20 lbs jumps for 3 sessions and then evaluate where you're at. I'm basically doing SL with chin-ups instead of rows I'll try 20lb jumps for a bit, thanks.
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Squat: 3x5 190lbs Bench: 3x5 120lbs (Deloaded after three fail attempts at 135lbs.) Deadlift: 1x5 240lbs PR
Taking a police prep course at the moment, today we just started doing gym. It wasn't too bad, just a lot of running so far. Hope it doesn't interfere with Starting Strength, although I may switch to an advanced novice program in the next month.
If anyone has any advice on progressing out of starting strength I would greatly appreciate it. 
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This is just a very general question about allergies: if one is allergic to dairy, eggs, seafood, and nuts, is there any substitute for thinks to consume in order to gain some weight? I don't really plan on really working out, etc., but I thought you guys might know. I'm really really skinny despite consuming a moderately high amount of foodstuffs, and was just wondering this out of random curiosity.
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On September 20 2011 12:57 Aegisky wrote: This is just a very general question about allergies: if one is allergic to dairy, eggs, seafood, and nuts, is there any substitute for thinks to consume in order to gain some weight? I don't really plan on really working out, etc., but I thought you guys might know. I'm really really skinny despite consuming a moderately high amount of foodstuffs, and was just wondering this out of random curiosity.
Animals, birds, fruits, vegetables,
Preferably grass fed animals... the fatty meat off them is rich and good. Coconut, and avocadoes are also some good fats too.
If you're light you're not eating enough. Put what you in per day in a food calculator like fitday it will show you that you're not eating enough.
edit if you need some good carbs mass up on the sweet potatoes. Love those.
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Got it, thanks! :D
I will try to eat more meat. f*cking LOVE meat lol
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On September 20 2011 12:39 RemedySC wrote:Squat: 3x5 190lbs Bench: 3x5 120lbs (Deloaded after three fail attempts at 135lbs.) Deadlift: 1x5 240lbs PRTaking a police prep course at the moment, today we just started doing gym. It wasn't too bad, just a lot of running so far. Hope it doesn't interfere with Starting Strength, although I may switch to an advanced novice program in the next month. If anyone has any advice on progressing out of starting strength I would greatly appreciate it. 
Do you feel like you're plateauing? Because I am just a little bit taller (5'9.5) and 160lbs and I'm not sure at your exact body build. But just a little bit ago my weights were almost identical to yours. Right now I have:
Squat: 245lb (225lb w/ atg) Bench: 155lbs Deadlift: 275lb
And I do feel like most people can reach those numbers and higher off SS. I think a few big things are, make sure you are eating enough, atleast to me 144lbs bodyweight sounds quite light for your lifts. And if you still see no progress in 2-3 weeks, well then there are a lot of suggestions on the SS wiki as how to go from there.
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I have looked at this thread before but I never actually wanted to post stuff till now lol. Well im a 16 year-old 150lbs 5'11 guy. Since school started I lost all motivation to work out and now just spend my time on tl, /r/starcraft, doing some homework, and just on the computer a lot. I just don't know how I'm gonna get myself back to working out and also I let my diet slip a bit (eating a bit more junkfood for the calories and to try to gain weight) I know I'm doing it wrong but im not sure what to eat. My current diet is basically cafeteria food and my mom's cooking :D which is basically composed of rice with chicken,meat,shrimp,vegetables etc(it varies). I kinda feel bad though just posting my problems and asking somebody to give me answers though ._.
Well i would like some feedback and what to do to gain some more weight and work out more thanks tl community ^^
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On September 20 2011 13:09 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 12:39 RemedySC wrote:Squat: 3x5 190lbs Bench: 3x5 120lbs (Deloaded after three fail attempts at 135lbs.) Deadlift: 1x5 240lbs PRTaking a police prep course at the moment, today we just started doing gym. It wasn't too bad, just a lot of running so far. Hope it doesn't interfere with Starting Strength, although I may switch to an advanced novice program in the next month. If anyone has any advice on progressing out of starting strength I would greatly appreciate it.  Do you feel like you're plateauing? Because I am just a little bit taller (5'9.5) and 160lbs and I'm not sure at your exact body build. But just a little bit ago my weights were almost identical to yours. Right now I have: Squat: 245lb (225lb w/ atg) Bench: 155lbs Deadlift: 275lb And I do feel like most people can reach those numbers and higher off SS. I think a few big things are, make sure you are eating enough, atleast to me 144lbs bodyweight sounds quite light for your lifts. And if you still see no progress in 2-3 weeks, well then there are a lot of suggestions on the SS wiki as how to go from there.
The two lifts I feel I am plateauing on are Squat and Press. I'm confident that the other lifts could go up still.
I'll list my best lifts:
Squat: 200lbs 3x5 Bench: 130lbs 3x5 Press: 90lbs 3x5 Deadlift: 240lbs 1x5 Powerclean: 130lbs 5x3
As for my weight, my goal is to hit 160lbs by the end of the year.
I'll try eating more and stick with it for another month to see how things go.
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I just recently joined the gym lately because i needed to get in shape. I ended up hiring a fitness trainer for like $26/hr but i'm starting to have doubts to if hes training me correctly.
He told me to eat a protein shake (2 scoops(50g)) every single morning the moment i wake up and to eat small healthy snacks like nuts, fruits, or another protein shake(this is what i'm doubting) between meals.
I'm Height: 5'7 Age: 23 Weight: 230lb BF%=27%(I think this is inaccurate :\ He made me hold onto something that looked like a x-box controller and it magically told me my BF%)
Its been 2 weeks since i've trained with him (1 x a week) and i train 3-4 times every week by myself My weight hasn't changed whatsoever.
My question is if its ok to eat so much protein in a day. I googled it and it said that its ok to overdose on protein as you pee it out but i'm worried about the excess calories in it. My trainer says its good calories and that i shouldn't worry about it at all. I'm particularly worried that the protein is whats making my weight unchanged.
I'm eating about 100-150g of protein a day. Heres what i normally eat in a average day. Breakfast: Protein Shake 50g(400 calories) (Using Syntha 6 Protein Powder) 1 Fiber Bar (130 calories) (9g dietary fiber)
Lunch(About 500 Calories) Small Bowl of Brown Rice Chicken/Meat with some kimchi
Snack Mixed salted/roasted nuts (150 to 170 calories) or Protein Shake 50g (400 calories)
Workout at Gym
Dinner(About 600 Calories) Soup Brown Rice Meat Vegetables
And another protein shake before i go to bed.(400 calories)
Thats roughly 2500 Calories i'm consuming everyday :\
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On September 20 2011 13:50 NokCha wrote: I just recently joined the gym lately because i needed to get in shape. I ended up hiring a fitness trainer for like $26/hr but i'm starting to have doubts to if hes training me correctly.
He told me to eat a protein shake (2 scoops(50g)) every single morning the moment i wake up and to eat small healthy snacks like nuts, fruits, or another protein shake(this is what i'm doubting) between meals.
I'm Height: 5'7 Age: 23 Weight: 230lb BF%=27%(I think this is inaccurate :\ He made me hold something that looked like a x-box controller and it magically told me my BF%)
Its been 2 weeks since i've trained with him (1 x a week) and i train 3-4 times every week by myself My weight hasn't changed whatsoever.
My question is if its ok to eat so much protein in a day. I googled it and it said that its ok to overdose on protein as you pee it out but i'm worried about the excess calories in it. My trainer says its good calories and that i shouldn't worry about it at all.
I'm eating about 100-150g of protein a day.
Please fire that fitness trainer. Like, everything he's had you do is wrong in some way. I know that you are new to the gym and you don't know much about how to take off pounds, which is understandable, but you can find the information in this thread right here for free! 
Eshlow and everyone else will help you out. Here is my advice for losing weight:
1.) Don't worry about how much you're currently eating. First and foremost, I say get quality under control. Let's define "quality." Quality (for weight loss) is:
-Low carb (100-125g/day maximum). -High protein (for your weight, 230g/day is good). -High fat (as much saturated and unsaturated fat as you can get in).
For example, a good breakfast would be some eggs. If you want, kimchi would be a good addition to it; I'm not Korean but I love this combination. The eggs are high in healthy fats and also have a decent amount of protein.
For lunch, I'll generally have some beef, chicken, or fish, and then some vegetables along with it.
For dinner I typically stick to fish, although any protein is fine. When I'm cutting I'll often eat bacon and eggs twice a day, but when I do that I'll always mix spinach into my eggs for the extra nutrients.
2.) Don't worry about when you're currently eating. You don't need to be snacking all day; actually, this is not productive for weight loss. Intermittent fasting is highly helpful for losing weight. I use the Leangains method for weight loss, which is basically this:
-Determine a "fasting period" of 16 hours (8 pm to 12 pm the next day is popular) -During the fasting period, simply don't eat. -During the refeeding period (which based on the above example would be 12 pm to 8 pm), eat. The breakfast lunch and dinner option from above is fine.
Intermittent fasting helps a lot with weight loss for a multitude of reasons.
3.) Train smart. I recommend Staring Strength to beginners because it will help you learn the main lifts and focus on compound movements. Information about it should be in the opening post.
Good luck.
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Hoping to be down to 165 from 182 by December. Super hard so far. Working with staying paleo, also super hard. Gonna do it though. Hopefully I'll have more time to lift.
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On September 20 2011 14:02 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 13:50 NokCha wrote: I just recently joined the gym lately because i needed to get in shape. I ended up hiring a fitness trainer for like $26/hr but i'm starting to have doubts to if hes training me correctly.
He told me to eat a protein shake (2 scoops(50g)) every single morning the moment i wake up and to eat small healthy snacks like nuts, fruits, or another protein shake(this is what i'm doubting) between meals.
I'm Height: 5'7 Age: 23 Weight: 230lb BF%=27%(I think this is inaccurate :\ He made me hold something that looked like a x-box controller and it magically told me my BF%)
Its been 2 weeks since i've trained with him (1 x a week) and i train 3-4 times every week by myself My weight hasn't changed whatsoever.
My question is if its ok to eat so much protein in a day. I googled it and it said that its ok to overdose on protein as you pee it out but i'm worried about the excess calories in it. My trainer says its good calories and that i shouldn't worry about it at all.
I'm eating about 100-150g of protein a day.
Please fire that fitness trainer. Like, everything he's had you do is wrong in some way. I know that you are new to the gym and you don't know much about how to take off pounds, which is understandable, but you can find the information in this thread right here for free!  Eshlow and everyone else will help you out. Here is my advice for losing weight: 1.) Don't worry about how much you're currently eating. First and foremost, I say get quality under control. Let's define "quality." Quality (for weight loss) is: -Low carb (100-125g/day maximum). -High protein (for your weight, 230g/day is good). -High fat (as much saturated and unsaturated fat as you can get in). For example, a good breakfast would be some eggs. If you want, kimchi would be a good addition to it; I'm not Korean but I love this combination. The eggs are high in healthy fats and also have a decent amount of protein. For lunch, I'll generally have some beef, chicken, or fish, and then some vegetables along with it. For dinner I typically stick to fish, although any protein is fine. When I'm cutting I'll often eat bacon and eggs twice a day, but when I do that I'll always mix spinach into my eggs for the extra nutrients. 2.) Don't worry about when you're currently eating. You don't need to be snacking all day; actually, this is not productive for weight loss. Intermittent fasting is highly helpful for losing weight. I use the Leangains method for weight loss, which is basically this: -Determine a "fasting period" of 16 hours (8 pm to 12 pm the next day is popular) -During the fasting period, simply don't eat. -During the refeeding period (which based on the above example would be 12 pm to 8 pm), eat. The breakfast lunch and dinner option from above is fine. Intermittent fasting helps a lot with weight loss for a multitude of reasons. 3.) Train smart. I recommend Staring Strength to beginners because it will help you learn the main lifts and focus on compound movements. Information about it should be in the opening post. Good luck.
Thank you for such a quick reply. Unfortunately i cannot fire my personal trainer as i have a 1 year commitment with him. But the good thing is i can switch trainers to some other trainer that works at the gym.
My current one has had me do machines the first workout and then the second workout he made me sprint back and forth across the gym like 9 times while touching cones and balancing on some sort of ball while hes trying to throw me off balance. He said i have plenty muscles but my core and conditioning is very weak. Most of the trainers here seem to focus alot on core. Is it really that important to losing weight? Sometimes they make me do squats for half an hour or wall sits while they try to throw me off balance.
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