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On August 25 2011 02:04 Bleak wrote:
The talks I've had with my dietician really erred me from attempting bodybuilding. She basically says that if I'm gonna start it, I better commit to it and keep it up my entire life because once I stopped it, the extra skin would look terrible. She also warns me away from using those protein shakes/bars or whatever and taking too much protein would have long term consequences such as kidney damage and liver problems.
Uhh, what? Is there really that kind of risk in protein intake?
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On August 24 2011 21:58 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:50 sJarl wrote:
There is no need of worrying about mercury poisoning from eating tuna. I actually have a study somewhere about it (did a short lecture about it last year in class). The omega-3s completely negate any effect that would be caused from any amount of mercury in it.
@Nazarene: GL&HF and kick some ass!
@Phyre: Being sober (or rather not completely drunk) has helped me immensely in gaining strength. I'd eat more if I were you and especially if you start playing basketball or other sports.
Can you link me to it? I'd love to show this one to my dad to stop his bitching about me dying from mercury poisoning.  That's a really good video decaf, how much is that? 220kg? not bad, not bad at all.
234kg 
sjarl send me the link too!
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On August 25 2011 01:46 Trizz wrote:
Bryce, bump on chest - i don't think he could've made that weight without bumping it.
If you look more closely you'll see he's not bumping off the chest 
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On August 25 2011 02:04 Bleak wrote:
The talks I've had with my dietician really erred me from attempting bodybuilding. She basically says that if I'm gonna start it, I better commit to it and keep it up my entire life because once I stopped it, the extra skin would look terrible. She also warns me away from using those protein shakes/bars or whatever and taking too much protein would have long term consequences such as kidney damage and liver problems.
Other than that, I have 11 kgrms of excess body water, which I need to lose. My body fat ratio is 24%, so it's pretty great if you think how much excess water I have.
Yeah, your skin is gonna be fine. Your skin might tear if you gain too much weight too quickly, but there are ways to prevent that (also some oils against it or sth., a google search should do). Loose skin should never be a problem, because at 24% bodyfat, you might not even become bigger but you will just look bigger because everything is more defined and the fat vanishes.
You lose water while you lose fat. 11kg excess, what does that even mean? Maybe it will go away if you stop drinking anything for three days straight... -.-
The protein stuff is also non-sense, as eshlow will probably point out at some point today.
You probably should find yourself a new dietician.
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On August 25 2011 02:11 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:58 funkie wrote:On August 24 2011 21:50 sJarl wrote:
There is no need of worrying about mercury poisoning from eating tuna. I actually have a study somewhere about it (did a short lecture about it last year in class). The omega-3s completely negate any effect that would be caused from any amount of mercury in it.
@Nazarene: GL&HF and kick some ass!
@Phyre: Being sober (or rather not completely drunk) has helped me immensely in gaining strength. I'd eat more if I were you and especially if you start playing basketball or other sports.
Can you link me to it? I'd love to show this one to my dad to stop his bitching about me dying from mercury poisoning. That's a really good video decaf, how much is that? 220kg? not bad, not bad at all. 234kg sjarl send me the link too!
i need emails, thats why I sent funkie a pm.
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On August 25 2011 02:14 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:04 Bleak wrote:
The talks I've had with my dietician really erred me from attempting bodybuilding. She basically says that if I'm gonna start it, I better commit to it and keep it up my entire life because once I stopped it, the extra skin would look terrible. She also warns me away from using those protein shakes/bars or whatever and taking too much protein would have long term consequences such as kidney damage and liver problems.
Other than that, I have 11 kgrms of excess body water, which I need to lose. My body fat ratio is 24%, so it's pretty great if you think how much excess water I have. Yeah, your skin is gonna be fine. Your skin might tear if you gain too much weight too quickly, but there are ways to prevent that (also some oils against it or sth., a google search should do). Loose skin should never be a problem, because at 24% bodyfat, you might not even become bigger but you will just look bigger because everything is more defined and the fat vanishes. You lose water while you lose fat. 11kg excess, what does that even mean? Maybe it will go away if you stop drinking anything for three days straight... -.- The protein stuff is also non-sense, as eshlow will probably point out at some point today. You probably should find yourself a new dietician.
I think you should actually drink more water since if you drink to little the body will try to keep all the water it can. I've been eating roughly 500kcal under maintence while drinking 2litres of water/day for about a week and lost 4kg, which I would assume is 80% water.
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Thanks Decaf/sJarl/Jupiter, that is some nice motivation and beastly lifts!
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On August 25 2011 02:14 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:04 Bleak wrote:
The talks I've had with my dietician really erred me from attempting bodybuilding. She basically says that if I'm gonna start it, I better commit to it and keep it up my entire life because once I stopped it, the extra skin would look terrible. She also warns me away from using those protein shakes/bars or whatever and taking too much protein would have long term consequences such as kidney damage and liver problems.
Other than that, I have 11 kgrms of excess body water, which I need to lose. My body fat ratio is 24%, so it's pretty great if you think how much excess water I have. Yeah, your skin is gonna be fine. Your skin might tear if you gain too much weight too quickly, but there are ways to prevent that (also some oils against it or sth., a google search should do). Loose skin should never be a problem, because at 24% bodyfat, you might not even become bigger but you will just look bigger because everything is more defined and the fat vanishes. You lose water while you lose fat. 11kg excess, what does that even mean? Maybe it will go away if you stop drinking anything for three days straight... -.- The protein stuff is also non-sense, as eshlow will probably point out at some point today. You probably should find yourself a new dietician.
I'm sorry but, together with her I've lost 36 kilograms of weight in two years and she has a degree from Stanford University, so she knows what she's talking about.
The excess body water is stored in your cells and everywhere throughout your body, the ones that are visible to the eye (like the excess water in your feet etc.) are a result of disease and complications, so it's different.
She told me that I should drink as much green tea, at least 2,5 litres of water per day, exercise, stay away from salty foods, soya sauce, and alcohol. That's pretty much about it.
Also, when you first start losing weight, you lose the water first, if you continue with the diet, the fat starts to go away too. So shit like Protein Diet is not only useless, but harmful, you will gain back the lost weight if you don't continue for long-term, and continuing with long term will wreck your kidneys and liver.
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Hey again TL!.
So I'm loving the Stronglifts 5x5 so far. My question is regarding pull-up and pull-up variations. I love to do them, and I'd like to continue doing so while doing the 5x5. Is this wise? And if so, when should I do them? (In the morning of my gym days? When doing the programme itself?)
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just wanted to update!
nailed 100kg squt today, finally over the barrier so i dont have to be nervous before every workout anymore! ^^
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On August 25 2011 02:09 rEiGN~ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:04 Bleak wrote:
The talks I've had with my dietician really erred me from attempting bodybuilding. She basically says that if I'm gonna start it, I better commit to it and keep it up my entire life because once I stopped it, the extra skin would look terrible. She also warns me away from using those protein shakes/bars or whatever and taking too much protein would have long term consequences such as kidney damage and liver problems. Uhh, what? Is there really that kind of risk in protein intake?
Here is a study from 2010 about it, high protein intake enlarged the pigs' kidneys and resulted renal damage. From what I've read from other studies, especially if you have an existing condition (even if a mild one) it just puts much strain on kidneys and causes damage.
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/140/9/1646.short
It's abstract I know, but I'm not a member to the site so...
But there are other studies that claim otherwise, so clearly more research is needed. But it seems like at least in people with an existing condition, it could cause damage.
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Today i was squatting and my left should was sore, not sure if it was from the squats or the bench press from monday. It doesnt feel like a muscular sore, just like sore on the bone joint. I read somewhere that having a wider grip might help this?? Or maybe Im just somehow favouring one side while racking the bar? Any help would be appreciated.
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Has someone a good explanation of the deadlift variatons? (Technique, what muscles are hit exactly etc.)
I need to replace deadlift once a week with something that hits the lower back. Suggestions are welcome.
Just can't seem to handle backsquat twice and deadlift twice a week.
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On August 25 2011 03:35 Bleak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:09 rEiGN~ wrote:On August 25 2011 02:04 Bleak wrote:
The talks I've had with my dietician really erred me from attempting bodybuilding. She basically says that if I'm gonna start it, I better commit to it and keep it up my entire life because once I stopped it, the extra skin would look terrible. She also warns me away from using those protein shakes/bars or whatever and taking too much protein would have long term consequences such as kidney damage and liver problems. Uhh, what? Is there really that kind of risk in protein intake? Here is a study from 2010 about it, high protein intake enlarged the pigs' kidneys and resulted renal damage. From what I've read from other studies, especially if you have an existing condition (even if a mild one) it just puts much strain on kidneys and causes damage. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/140/9/1646.shortIt's abstract I know, but I'm not a member to the site so...
I have experience with this first hand. I was taking protein shakes in high school (note i was probably only 120 lbs, so for different bodies it will be different ) while working out and I had really bad pains in my abdomen that night and the next morningbelow my stomach. I ended up being able to barely walk ended up staying in the hospital overnight with IV pumping water into me .I remember the doctor explaining it that my muscles were rejecting all the protein and my kidneys couldn't handle it.Was out the next morning though. They initially thought it was some sort of muscle problem but nothing ever happened again so I guess it was nothing. Also I remember drinking at least 3 bottles of water a day. But if your gunna take enough protein to be excess make sure to drink lots and lots of water 8-10 glasses a day at least to help your kidneys process it.
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On August 25 2011 03:38 glurio wrote:
Has someone a good explanation of the deadlift variatons? (Technique, what muscles are hit exactly etc.)
I need to replace deadlift once a week with something that hits the lower back. Suggestions are welcome.
Just can't seem to handle backsquat twice and deadlift twice a week.
power cleans?
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On August 25 2011 03:31 Civilkurage wrote:
Hey again TL!.
So I'm loving the Stronglifts 5x5 so far. My question is regarding pull-up and pull-up variations. I love to do them, and I'd like to continue doing so while doing the 5x5. Is this wise? And if so, when should I do them? (In the morning of my gym days? When doing the programme itself?)
some SS-like programs incorporate pull-ups and chin-ups into the training routines.
Practical Programming Novice Program, for exemple, goes like this:
Monday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench press / Press (Alternating)
Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps
Wednesday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press / Bench Press (Alternating)
1x5 Deadlift
Friday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press / Press (Alternating)
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps
so yes, you can do them when doing the program itself.
As I'm doing the above program, I do them at the end of the workout, and they really make you tired when done to failure.
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On August 25 2011 02:04 Bleak wrote:
The talks I've had with my dietician really erred me from attempting bodybuilding. She basically says that if I'm gonna start it, I better commit to it and keep it up my entire life because once I stopped it, the extra skin would look terrible. She also warns me away from using those protein shakes/bars or whatever and taking too much protein would have long term consequences such as kidney damage and liver problems.
Other than that, I have 11 kgrms of excess body water, which I need to lose. My body fat ratio is 24%, so it's pretty great if you think how much excess water I have.
If you were to try bodybuilding, you'd want to diet down to ~8% bf. Then you've got all the pounds and pounds that you've lost to fill back out. Beyond that, it's damn hard to get big afterwards. Lose skin from lifting isn't something you really should worry about unless you've been lifting for years and years... Also, you can work out without specifically attempting getting "huge" - there's just a change in how you should eat.
Too much protein, if you've already got a pre-existing kidney problem can be harmful. In people with healthy kidneys, you can easily get 25-35% of calories from protein without any problems. Hell, anyone who's in a hospital with a serious injury, they'll try to push the protein up to 35% or so, because it helps the body to recover. As long as you aren't going overboard and eating 350grams of protein a day or something, and you don't have a pre-existing condition, you don't need to worry about your kidneys and protein intake.
Idra's lift was short... but I've done that before myself. On a lift that's heavy, but you know you can hit you psych yourself up and either it alters the bar path, or you don't get full depth. That makes the lift more difficult than you're used to - I bet Idra could hit that lift if he had another try, or at least could do 195.
Machine... not sure. The more i watch it, the more I think he has it. There's definitely a pause at the bottom there, it's not a real bounce. Inc - well we all know that Inc's benched more previously.
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Sjarl, Malinor, Decaf, and Dimsum are all > incontrol. I mean individually of course.
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A serious question:
What's the secret to spotting a friend during their benchpress without permeating their nostrils with the overpowering smell of sweaty balls? What about vice versa when I'm the one doing the lift and not wanting to get a nosefull? Coincidentally, my spotter is always telling me to breathe deeply.
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On August 25 2011 03:46 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 03:38 glurio wrote:
Has someone a good explanation of the deadlift variatons? (Technique, what muscles are hit exactly etc.)
I need to replace deadlift once a week with something that hits the lower back. Suggestions are welcome.
Just can't seem to handle backsquat twice and deadlift twice a week. power cleans?
Front-Squat? Cleans?
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