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asdlkj
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 04:20:13
August 15 2011 04:19 GMT
#10021
On August 15 2011 13:02 asdlkj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 12:57 phyre112 wrote:
On August 15 2011 12:43 asdlkj wrote:
Eshlow you might want to add something about Niacin to the OP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/niacin/CL00036
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39072-niacin-benefits-side-effects/
http://www.howtodothings.com/health-fitness/benefit-from-niacin


Just skimmed through your articles; I'd always heard that the B vitamins were found plentifully in the average diet (and they're water soluble, so you can't take in an excess) so there wouldn't be much use in supplementing them? All I know about Niacin specifically is that it's great for a feeling of energy. Is there something special I'm missing about this one in particular?

Niacin also boosts HGH levels. I'll post a graph in a second that shows the HGH spike after taking Niacin.

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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
August 15 2011 04:28 GMT
#10022
@dimsum yeah i compete in usaw (this wasnt one obv) and yeah i dont have a singlet yet lol.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 15 2011 05:09 GMT
#10023
On August 15 2011 12:53 phyre112 wrote:

So I went and got my little sister a gym membership today; she needs to get stronger if she wants to play college basketball. She doesn't have the flexibility to get set of a deadlift of powerclean, she doesn't have the strength to press the bar... We'll try squats next time we go. She can't do pullups or dips either, so we'll work negatives on those. Think I'll set her up doing a slightly modified SS for now;

Squats 3x5
Push Press 3x5
Deadlift 3x5
Pullups (beginning on negatives) 3xF

Squats 3x5
Bench Press 3x5
BO Rows 3x5
Dips (starting with negatives) 3xF

She'll also be moving on from the rows to the powerclean as soon as she has the overall flexibility to get set for them properly; in the mean time we'll do a pretty good amount of stretching. I don't know about running... I'm still having a hell of a time putting on weight even without it, and I doubt she'll stick to HIIT without me doing it alongside her =/.


Why deadlifts 3x5? She doesn't have the flexibility for a set as you said, and SS has only one set (due to the strain it puts on your lower back). You put pull ups in because you have bent over rows right (compared to have chin ups)?

Just watched Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead. Congrats to the guy for losing 80 pounds in 60 days. But a lot of the information in that documentary is just so wrong (micronutrient food? macronutrient food? lolwut). So. Damn. Wrong. We need a health expert meme for this one alone.

Not to mention how unhealthy this "diet" is, although the guy subtly hints at that many times throughout the documentary.

Good lord it is amazing how little control people have over themselves. A lot of people kept saying that they wanted to enjoy their lives and all this hippity hoo blah. Others admitted they needed to do something about it, but probably won't. I enjoy lifting that 300 pounds and going home and smashing down some delicious chicken/meat and milk. I just don't understand it really.

Hell, I don't lift for a week and I get miserable lol

On a good note, there are some hot bishes in there (Chick who wants to live till 90 anyone?) lol and some parts are kinda funny.

Still, a good documentary. Pretty motivational and heart touching when they get to Phil. Really puts things in prospective. Maybe it will change a few peoples lives.

In the documentary, a "challenge" one of the guys goes through is to fit into a shirt two or three sizes smaller, which I thought was really cool because I did the same thing for myself. Buying clothes that were too small for me at the time so I forced myself to lose weight or rather, just had a damn goal I wanted to succeed in. They were usually expensive shirts too so I wouldn't just say fuggit lol

Any other documentaries y'all would recommend? I also watched Bigger, Stronger, and Faster or whatever it is lol
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 15 2011 05:52 GMT
#10024
@catch, deadlifts 1x5. Just a typo, I wasn't paying so much attention to writing that up. I would probably switch her to chinups when she starts doing power cleans as well.

Also very nearly failed a set of deadlifts today myself =/. Think I was actually about an inch from locking out the last rep at 285 today. Then I went and did a few backoff sets, and that still seemed really heavy. I just don't understand why these weights that I should be hitting ezpz are so difficult.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 07:04:42
August 15 2011 07:04 GMT
#10025
I suppose I could write a testimonial.

Stupid thing is now that I'm doing what the PT people are suggesting I actually feel quite a lot weaker. A lot of the stuff I'm doing is to strengthen back/core (planks, half of torso off exercise ball, and flapping arms, stuff like that)

Even though it's tough and makes me "burn" IT doesn't seem to be doing much :/

Hopefully when its done I can continue with SS.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
August 15 2011 07:25 GMT
#10026
I just started the SL Regime today. I weigh 120 pounds and am 18 years old. My goal is to gain weight, hopefully 20+ pounds and also be able to progressively do a lot of weight on the exercises ofc.

I'm going to give an update every month on whether or not i've gained any weight and the amount of weight i'm lifting.

Currently starting at the lowest pretty much to get used to it and practice technique:

1. 45lb squat
2. 45lb bench press
3. 50lb barbell row
4. 45lb overhead press
5. 50lb deadlift
I <3 Plexa.
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
August 15 2011 07:27 GMT
#10027
Kamais, I highly recommend you buy Starting Strength, just for the technique. Barbells are great if done well, great for injuring yourself when you have slight flaws in your technique. Play safe and efficient and get SS.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
August 15 2011 07:34 GMT
#10028
On August 15 2011 16:27 BouBou.865 wrote:
Kamais, I highly recommend you buy Starting Strength, just for the technique. Barbells are great if done well, great for injuring yourself when you have slight flaws in your technique. Play safe and efficient and get SS.
Thanks for the advice, although I'm new to the regime itself working out in general I've been doing for a while so I'm confident in my technique, I've studied a lot of hours. Regarding SS, I prefer the SL regime like I said in the original post because the 5x5 appeals to me more. When I'm not making much gains anymore I can drop to 3x5.
I <3 Plexa.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
August 15 2011 08:03 GMT
#10029
On August 14 2011 18:42 Matoo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:01 jjhchsc2 wrote:
for push ups- have your hands placed ( any width) aligned with your and not your shoulders.

for bench dips- make sure you are warm and stretched so you dont strain your shoulder. also make sure your lower back/ back touches the bench when you go down and if it doesnt then you might strain your shoulder.

Looks like you skipped a word in your first sentence :p with what should my hands be aligned? I thought that hands could be placed anywhere really, e.g. placing them closer to the belly button will be harder but prepare better for the planche, etc.

About the dips, I'm going to do them on rings, from what I've read it doesn't cause as many shoulder problems as bench dips.

Wish you a good progress too.


o lol sorry my typing cant keep up with my train of thought. I think you should align your hands with your chest or lower as it is better form and works the muscles alot better.



@everyone else. I was doing leg raises today to test my current lower abs endurence. i could do about 3x8 about a month ago and now i could do about 4x10 and i didnt even do single leg raise since last month. must be the weighted planks

I was checking up if double leg raises worked the hips and i found out that that could put horrible strains on your lower back making them more prone to damage and pain later on.
I do my double leg raises on my bed and i did feel my lower back tensing up abit and i was abit worried after i read the info on the double leg raises.
So should i be worried?
Does the Hanging leg raises put bad strain on the back as well.

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Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 09:04:52
August 15 2011 08:51 GMT
#10030
Did my first full workout today. The HIIT-style swimming fucking killed me... omg.

@jjhchsc2: yeah I'm going to put the hands lower and lower as I get better at pushups.
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 10:00:54
August 15 2011 09:39 GMT
#10031
So me and my brother made a stupid bet on wether I could have a six pack next year June. Any tips ? I gained quite some fat on GOMAD & SS.

I'm doing 2000 calories a day, 2500 on workout day (mainly after workout). Trying to do intermediate fasting from leangains, but difficult when I have such a bad sleeping pattern. I don't understand how I can have some disciplie towards working out but zero when trying to establish and maintain a normal sleep pattern.

Nom nom half a kilo of turkey meat is yummy.
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Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1323 Posts
August 15 2011 10:01 GMT
#10032
So I've been doing SS for about 4 months, and it's getting a bit boring.
I also don't really feel like I've really "Pushed myself" where my muscles become sore the next day.
Other than not being able to finish sets because of weight.
Some stats:

Bench: 1x3 Bodyweight
Squat: 1x5 Bodyweight x1.25
Deadlift: 1x1 Bodyweight x1.5 (Lacking grip strenght)

Am I ready for a new program?
Or should I stick with SS.

Also to note, I've been cutting 3 months and 2 weeks from those 4 months.
I've only started bulking 2 weeks ago.

Thanks in advance.
nope
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
August 15 2011 10:23 GMT
#10033
On August 15 2011 19:01 Trizz wrote:
So I've been doing SS for about 4 months, and it's getting a bit boring.
I also don't really feel like I've really "Pushed myself" where my muscles become sore the next day.
Other than not being able to finish sets because of weight.
Some stats:

Bench: 1x3 Bodyweight
Squat: 1x5 Bodyweight x1.25
Deadlift: 1x1 Bodyweight x1.5 (Lacking grip strenght)

Am I ready for a new program?
Or should I stick with SS.

Also to note, I've been cutting 3 months and 2 weeks from those 4 months.
I've only started bulking 2 weeks ago.

Thanks in advance.


soreness isnt a sign of progress.
adding weight onto the scale and onto the barbell is a sign of progress.
you only get sore if you've never excercised and you start doing ''hard stuff'' that your body isnt used to.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
August 15 2011 10:26 GMT
#10034
On August 15 2011 18:39 Advocado wrote:
So me and my brother made a stupid bet on wether I could have a six pack next year June. Any tips ? I gained quite some fat on GOMAD & SS.

I'm doing 2000 calories a day, 2500 on workout day (mainly after workout). Trying to do intermediate fasting from leangains, but difficult when I have such a bad sleeping pattern. I don't understand how I can have some disciplie towards working out but zero when trying to establish and maintain a normal sleep pattern.

Nom nom half a kilo of turkey meat is yummy.



BMR -500 everyday, lots of protein, cut down on carbs.
Sixpack till June is easy. Depending on your bodyfat level start anywhere from January to March.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 11:10:56
August 15 2011 11:06 GMT
#10035
What program is best to start with? Stronglifts or Starting Strength?

Im trying to loose weight and gain strength and im on a diet atm.

edit: Also does 3x5 mean 3sets 5reps or 3reps 5sets?
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
August 15 2011 12:06 GMT
#10036
On August 15 2011 20:06 thirnaz wrote:
What program is best to start with? Stronglifts or Starting Strength?

Im trying to loose weight and gain strength and im on a diet atm.

edit: Also does 3x5 mean 3sets 5reps or 3reps 5sets?


sets x reps

I'm gonna go on more bodybuilding type of a workout routine for a while. Also, no coffee or alcohol for a week now. Coffee previously multiple cups daily.
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
August 15 2011 12:19 GMT
#10037
cant keep up with this thread

anyway, went to the gym today after a two week break. headaches are gone!! lets hope they wont come back..
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
August 15 2011 12:23 GMT
#10038
On August 15 2011 19:26 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 18:39 Advocado wrote:
So me and my brother made a stupid bet on wether I could have a six pack next year June. Any tips ? I gained quite some fat on GOMAD & SS.

I'm doing 2000 calories a day, 2500 on workout day (mainly after workout). Trying to do intermediate fasting from leangains, but difficult when I have such a bad sleeping pattern. I don't understand how I can have some disciplie towards working out but zero when trying to establish and maintain a normal sleep pattern.

Nom nom half a kilo of turkey meat is yummy.



BMR -500 everyday, lots of protein, cut down on carbs.
Sixpack till June is easy. Depending on your bodyfat level start anywhere from January to March.


Woah, My BMR is 1908 that'd make my daily calorie intake on cutting to be around 1400/1900 on workout days.
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
August 15 2011 12:25 GMT
#10039
On August 15 2011 21:23 Advocado wrote:
Woah, My BMR is 1908 that'd make my daily calorie intake on cutting to be around 1400/1900 on workout days.


Uh, how do you estimate your BMR that accurately?
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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
August 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#10040
On August 15 2011 21:25 rEiGN~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 21:23 Advocado wrote:
Woah, My BMR is 1908 that'd make my daily calorie intake on cutting to be around 1400/1900 on workout days.


Uh, how do you estimate your BMR that accurately?


Used a random site on the interwebz based on my height/weight/age and gender.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
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