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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 02:16:35
August 15 2011 02:06 GMT
#10001
I can write about how i went from being good at rugby to more ripped, stronger, bigger, and better at rugby and throwing a bunch of weight over my head. Healthier/more informed for that matter. (I feel like at that point im just coming off a douche though )

:D

p.s. vid of competition coming soon to a youtube near you
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
August 15 2011 02:07 GMT
#10002
On August 15 2011 08:24 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 06:57 kaisr wrote:
oops i guess i meant stronglifts then, so what do u mean drop bench/squat - why would it be beneficial to drop weights to something I find non challenging?

better to start lower and maintain linear progression then plateau too early.


oh i started really low in mid june like 70lbs with flat dumbell bench, switched over to flat barbell bench like beginning of august but was doing 3x8 all along, just started doing 5x5 today - if this is the case, should i still drop weights? From June - August my progression was quite linear.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
August 15 2011 02:07 GMT
#10003
aaand decaf pops the cherry ;o
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Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
August 15 2011 02:13 GMT
#10004
Hey guys I'm thinking of getting in shape. I would like to tone down the area around my belly and gain some muscle mass.

I would like some help or some suggestions on how to fill out the log below. I'm not sure specifically what my goals are, I would just like to get in shape and not be the weakling I am :/

Kezzer
Age: 18 || Height: 5'10" or m/cm || Weight: 135 lbs
Starting Date: 08/14/11 || Goal Date: 12/31/11
Weight goals -- [insert here]
Training goals -- [insert here]
Nutrition goals -- [insert here]
Misc goals -- [insert here]
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
August 15 2011 02:17 GMT
#10005
Well for starters you should put on about 40 pounds ^_^ See OP -> Starting Strength would be perfect for you
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 02:22:23
August 15 2011 02:21 GMT
#10006
So I've been getting serious pains during my bicep workouts in my right wrist. I really don't think it's because my wrists are weak or something, because well if I'm normally curling even a 30-40 pound bar my wrist hurts really badly but if I'm doing a 70 pound bar my left wrist is completely fine.

The pain is also very huge while doing the EZ bar preacher curls, but not during them, but right as I let go of the bar. It's been very annoying because I have been going through a lot of pain when doing my bicep workouts but I really don't want to stop. Not sure what the best way of going about this is, besides saying "Don't workout for two months"

And another pain I've been getting is in my shoulder. Today was my chest/tricep day and while doing the decline (light weight) I had got a pain in my shoulder, and I just had trouble lifting anything. I had this pain in my other workouts too but it didn't get in the way too much. Well I decided to not do regular bench today, and inclined dumbell wasn't able to do nearly as much weight as before. And lastly that exercise that works the peck deck hurt so much to do, after doing my warm up of half my regular weight I was in so much pain I decided to just do abs and call it a day.

My shoulder is totally fine when I'm raising my arm, it's just when it has weight to work with it's difficult, I was really sad that I could only do 34 pound dumbells for incline today, should I see a doctor or is it likely a stretched muscle?
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Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
August 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#10007
On August 15 2011 11:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So I've been getting serious pains during my bicep workouts in my right wrist. I really don't think it's because my wrists are weak or something, because well if I'm normally curling even a 30-40 pound bar my wrist hurts really badly but if I'm doing a 70 pound bar my left wrist is completely fine.

The pain is also very huge while doing the EZ bar preacher curls, but not during them, but right as I let go of the bar. It's been very annoying because I have been going through a lot of pain when doing my bicep workouts but I really don't want to stop. Not sure what the best way of going about this is, besides saying "Don't workout for two months"

And another pain I've been getting is in my shoulder. Today was my chest/tricep day and while doing the decline (light weight) I had got a pain in my shoulder, and I just had trouble lifting anything. I had this pain in my other workouts too but it didn't get in the way too much. Well I decided to not do regular bench today, and inclined dumbell wasn't able to do nearly as much weight as before. And lastly that exercise that works the peck deck hurt so much to do, after doing my warm up of half my regular weight I was in so much pain I decided to just do abs and call it a day.

My shoulder is totally fine when I'm raising my arm, it's just when it has weight to work with it's difficult, I was really sad that I could only do 34 pound dumbells for incline today, should I see a doctor or is it likely a stretched muscle?


go to a good personal trainer see what they say usually in most gyms the 1st session is free( or at least where I stay) but they best option is to go see a doctor.
You don't want to injury yourself further and put yourself out of commission for months
chances are it could be fixed with a few simple strengthening exercises and chances are it could be more serious where consulting a doctor and getting therapy might be needed.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
August 15 2011 03:01 GMT
#10008
On August 13 2011 05:57 funkie wrote:
@bdictkam I was gonna call it upon you, and just wanted to give you a warn. But someone in the higher ranks did it for me, and tempbanned you.

Behave and be kinder next time, no reason to call on bullshit on one of our most beloved thread members.


This forum is a bunch of pussy ass hyprocritcal fairies. I see people calling each other idiots and morons and everything inbetween on the zyzz steroid post, and nothing is done. But as soon as a few fags on here start acting like they some kind of leaders of advice on here and if anything is presented that offers another or extended view that they didnt come up with, you get little snickers and sly wordy cuts, like a bitch would do.

Telling me to behave kinder, blow me you beta. Im not gonna be kind or respectful when i make a post suggesting some ideas and points of views, and i get haters telling me that i posted some "hot chick" or trash ideas etc, or try to down play me cause they are bent on 1 training style. And if you are too retarded to see that it begun with them then you are part of this sheeppack.

I was only on this forum to get some experienced with the top end universities i had choices for this fall, so ban if full this time for all i give a fuck. I will have a new location new ip and everything shortly anyways as im moving to uni in sept. I dont need forums where some are given the blind eye to how they speak to people, and when i defend myself lest with actualy third party evidence and call someone "narrowminded" i need to dull my manners. LOL, your beloved member. Blow him why dont you you handholding limpdick.

Go call on your higherpower sister you bitch and tattle that someone uses baddie words that your jellyfish self cant handle. Ill post my gains and maybe a picture or 2 in sept as ill likely get banned for this by a bunch of 1 sided hypocritcal fempacks calling wolf. Bahhhh bahhhh
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 15 2011 03:03 GMT
#10009
On August 15 2011 11:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So I've been getting serious pains during my bicep workouts in my right wrist. I really don't think it's because my wrists are weak or something, because well if I'm normally curling even a 30-40 pound bar my wrist hurts really badly but if I'm doing a 70 pound bar my left wrist is completely fine.

The pain is also very huge while doing the EZ bar preacher curls, but not during them, but right as I let go of the bar. It's been very annoying because I have been going through a lot of pain when doing my bicep workouts but I really don't want to stop. Not sure what the best way of going about this is, besides saying "Don't workout for two months"

And another pain I've been getting is in my shoulder. Today was my chest/tricep day and while doing the decline (light weight) I had got a pain in my shoulder, and I just had trouble lifting anything. I had this pain in my other workouts too but it didn't get in the way too much. Well I decided to not do regular bench today, and inclined dumbell wasn't able to do nearly as much weight as before. And lastly that exercise that works the peck deck hurt so much to do, after doing my warm up of half my regular weight I was in so much pain I decided to just do abs and call it a day.

My shoulder is totally fine when I'm raising my arm, it's just when it has weight to work with it's difficult, I was really sad that I could only do 34 pound dumbells for incline today, should I see a doctor or is it likely a stretched muscle?


Gonna repeat what I said in like the past 5 pages to someone with something similar.

Strengthen your forearms, especially your extensors, with some wrist curls. Use your opposite hand to check out the tissue quality and massage any tender or tight spots as well. Do this for a week (4-5x a week) and see if you notice any improvements. Yes, that means you shouldn't curl for at least a week.

Should pain is a bit more complicated since there's literally about 20 muscles that connect to the scapula and around 270 degrees of motion in a hemisphere around it. Ummm, I'm going to need more detail if I would be able to take a guess.

However, seeing an ortho or physical therapist wouldn't be a bad idea either. YOu can ask questions for both of your injuries.

Getting a diagnosis is almost always a good idea. Rehab tends to be fairly straight forwards in most cases if you know what you are dealing with. If you don't know what you are dealing with then it can be very hard to figure out what is the best plan of action sometimes.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 03:10:03
August 15 2011 03:06 GMT
#10010
I just came from reading the triathlon thread that opened in the general TL community section recently, I don't mean to blame them for feeling alienated whenever coming into this thread but, I think it again shows support for the idea of our own sub-forum =\

p.s. great return post there bdict.

If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 15 2011 03:12 GMT
#10011
On August 15 2011 12:01 bdictkam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 05:57 funkie wrote:
@bdictkam I was gonna call it upon you, and just wanted to give you a warn. But someone in the higher ranks did it for me, and tempbanned you.

Behave and be kinder next time, no reason to call on bullshit on one of our most beloved thread members.


This forum is a bunch of pussy ass hyprocritcal fairies. I see people calling each other idiots and morons and everything inbetween on the zyzz steroid post, and nothing is done. But as soon as a few fags on here start acting like they some kind of leaders of advice on here and if anything is presented that offers another or extended view that they didnt come up with, you get little snickers and sly wordy cuts, like a bitch would do.

Telling me to behave kinder, blow me you beta. Im not gonna be kind or respectful when i make a post suggesting some ideas and points of views, and i get haters telling me that i posted some "hot chick" or trash ideas etc, or try to down play me cause they are bent on 1 training style. And if you are too retarded to see that it begun with them then you are part of this sheeppack.

I was only on this forum to get some experienced with the top end universities i had choices for this fall, so ban if full this time for all i give a fuck. I will have a new location new ip and everything shortly anyways as im moving to uni in sept. I dont need forums where some are given the blind eye to how they speak to people, and when i defend myself lest with actualy third party evidence and call someone "narrowminded" i need to dull my manners. LOL, your beloved member. Blow him why dont you you handholding limpdick.

Go call on your higherpower sister you bitch and tattle that someone uses baddie words that your jellyfish self cant handle. Ill post my gains and maybe a picture or 2 in sept as ill likely get banned for this by a bunch of 1 sided hypocritcal fempacks calling wolf. Bahhhh bahhhh


lol.

It would've been better if you pulled the study(s) in question out of pubmed next time instead of an infomercial type video. Especially if the infomercial type video has a dozen catch phrases from the fitness industry that are false.

Even if there's a good study in there it is more likely to be dismissed quite quickly because of the surrounding contents is in fact "broscience."
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 15 2011 03:18 GMT
#10012
@Bdictkam: It's not your point of view, it is the way you talk. Look at your post, you sound like a butt hurt 12 year old man. Furthermore, I offered help and you ignored it.

Anyways, back to lifting tomorrow. Gonna destroy some iron after not touching it for a week.

500 pages. Don't we get a forum yet

@FaKi: I'm having the same kind of problem with my wrist. I'll just be following Eshlow's advice haha

Victory Loves Preparation
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
August 15 2011 03:20 GMT
#10013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrKo9KE5_7k\

Snatching was awful, reverted back to old habits at heavy weights. arm bend, throwing head back, pulling too much, shitty catching, blah. Only parts i'm happy with are the jerk on my first cj and the clean on my last cj T_T I didnt even think i'd get the jerk at 138kg cause i was tired as fuck but then i dropped super low and caught it (back leg bent as fuck T_T) I should probably get more than 3 hours of sleep and taper off a bit before my next meet ^_^ oh well it was just a training one, good experience.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
August 15 2011 03:22 GMT
#10014
Oh last thing, went on a hike in the mountains to pick mushrooms today. Got home fast enough to go to the gym for my full body weight day, deadlifts, squats,etcs. Eating something called a Gulash, which is meat cubes, thick meat sauce thick mushroom chunks and potato cubes. I suggest you guys give it a try when you are in a east european resturant :D
asdlkj
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
35 Posts
August 15 2011 03:36 GMT
#10015
On August 15 2011 12:22 bdictkam wrote:
Oh last thing, went on a hike in the mountains to pick mushrooms today. Got home fast enough to go to the gym for my full body weight day, deadlifts, squats,etcs. Eating something called a Gulash, which is meat cubes, thick meat sauce thick mushroom chunks and potato cubes. I suggest you guys give it a try when you are in a east european resturant :D

You Bosnian brah?? I love me some gulash/pita/cevapi =D
asdlkj
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
35 Posts
August 15 2011 03:43 GMT
#10016
Eshlow you might want to add something about Niacin to the OP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/niacin/CL00036
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39072-niacin-benefits-side-effects/
http://www.howtodothings.com/health-fitness/benefit-from-niacin
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 15 2011 03:53 GMT
#10017
On August 15 2011 12:22 bdictkam wrote:
Oh last thing, went on a hike in the mountains to pick mushrooms today. Got home fast enough to go to the gym for my full body weight day, deadlifts, squats,etcs. Eating something called a Gulash, which is meat cubes, thick meat sauce thick mushroom chunks and potato cubes. I suggest you guys give it a try when you are in a east european resturant :D


My dad's family makes it, even though none of them are eastern european. Shit is DELICIOUS, and paleo-friendly depending on the recipe.

So I went and got my little sister a gym membership today; she needs to get stronger if she wants to play college basketball. She doesn't have the flexibility to get set of a deadlift of powerclean, she doesn't have the strength to press the bar... We'll try squats next time we go. She can't do pullups or dips either, so we'll work negatives on those. Think I'll set her up doing a slightly modified SS for now;

Squats 3x5
Push Press 3x5
Deadlift 3x5
Pullups (beginning on negatives) 3xF

Squats 3x5
Bench Press 3x5
BO Rows 3x5
Dips (starting with negatives) 3xF

She'll also be moving on from the rows to the powerclean as soon as she has the overall flexibility to get set for them properly; in the mean time we'll do a pretty good amount of stretching. I don't know about running... I'm still having a hell of a time putting on weight even without it, and I doubt she'll stick to HIIT without me doing it alongside her =/.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 15 2011 03:57 GMT
#10018
On August 15 2011 12:43 asdlkj wrote:
Eshlow you might want to add something about Niacin to the OP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/niacin/CL00036
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39072-niacin-benefits-side-effects/
http://www.howtodothings.com/health-fitness/benefit-from-niacin


Just skimmed through your articles; I'd always heard that the B vitamins were found plentifully in the average diet (and they're water soluble, so you can't take in an excess) so there wouldn't be much use in supplementing them? All I know about Niacin specifically is that it's great for a feeling of energy. Is there something special I'm missing about this one in particular?
asdlkj
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
35 Posts
August 15 2011 04:02 GMT
#10019
On August 15 2011 12:57 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 12:43 asdlkj wrote:
Eshlow you might want to add something about Niacin to the OP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/niacin/CL00036
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39072-niacin-benefits-side-effects/
http://www.howtodothings.com/health-fitness/benefit-from-niacin


Just skimmed through your articles; I'd always heard that the B vitamins were found plentifully in the average diet (and they're water soluble, so you can't take in an excess) so there wouldn't be much use in supplementing them? All I know about Niacin specifically is that it's great for a feeling of energy. Is there something special I'm missing about this one in particular?

Niacin also boosts HGH levels. I'll post a graph in a second that shows the HGH spike after taking Niacin.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 04:25:31
August 15 2011 04:19 GMT
#10020
On August 15 2011 12:20 decafchicken wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrKo9KE5_7k\

Snatching was awful, reverted back to old habits at heavy weights. arm bend, throwing head back, pulling too much, shitty catching, blah. Only parts i'm happy with are the jerk on my first cj and the clean on my last cj T_T I didnt even think i'd get the jerk at 138kg cause i was tired as fuck but then i dropped super low and caught it (back leg bent as fuck T_T) I should probably get more than 3 hours of sleep and taper off a bit before my next meet ^_^ oh well it was just a training one, good experience.


Are u competing in usaw comps? I was just wondering since you never wear a singlet. Nice job by the way, even in a bad day you stuck most of your lifts.

@bdict, I'm not sure why you are so angry, but everyone in this thread helps each other out. The only one who is attacking anyone is you. Maybe when you get to university, you might learn some manners. grow up
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
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