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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
On August 07 2011 06:12 bdictkam wrote: After doing squats the first time, my back muscles are SO TOAST today, i slept from 1-6 and then from 8till 2pm! My body is dying Maybe it's because you're new to this, but if you get BURNZ from SS or squats in general, afaik you're doing something wrong. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Numbers in lbs squats 215x5x3 +10 power cleans 165x3x3 Glad I made BW finally. Missed two reps because gym closed but it was actually pretty easy. I realized one of the things I've been doing horribly wrong by myself: I would bend my knee inwards when I scoop up the bar instead of just extending them forward =.= I expect to make some great gains now that my form is more correct. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On August 07 2011 06:38 BouBou.865 wrote: Maybe it's because you're new to this, but if you get BURNZ from SS or squats in general, afaik you're doing something wrong. Squats really work your core muscles, so it's possible if he's never worked those areas before. But more likely than not, you are doing something wrong. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
Wah, I need to cool down to think clearly again. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
On August 07 2011 06:50 Cambium wrote: Squats really work your core muscles, so it's possible if he's never worked those areas before. But more likely than not, you are doing something wrong. It's a pretty safe bet that you are doing something wrong when you do Squats for the first time, but being exhausted and having sore back muscles does sound pretty possible to me without making mistakes. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
I should pull the bar relatively slowly up to my thigh region, and then jump/"explode" while the bar is touching the front of my thighs right...? | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On August 07 2011 04:44 Civilkurage wrote: Thanks for the input! The main reason for doing the split I'm on right now is due to lack of knowledge. I also thought that I'm already getting full body workouts through pull-ups, and variations of it (inverted grip, "commando grip) and swimming. But gathering from what you've said, dropping a swimming session for a gym session is probably a good idea? And would my split be fine then or should I change it up? The Gallon of milk sounds great, I'll definately do that. However I cannot start with it for another 1-2 months due to the fact that a medication I'm taking doesen't interact well with calcium. Any other quick-fixes in the food department? you still got it wrong mate  drop the swimming (cardio isnt helping you if you want to gain weight) and do full body workouts 3 days a week (no split routine!!!). starting strength or stronglifts are both fine programs to put on a lot of muscle and develop insane levels of strength in a very short time.also, eating more = weight gain lifting will only (well, mostly) affect your body composition. hence just eat more if you want to gain weight gl! On August 07 2011 07:04 Cambium wrote: Question about power clean: I should pull the bar relatively slowly up to my thigh region, and then jump/"explode" while the bar is touching the front of my thighs right...? its not necessarily a "jump". actually just jumping with the weight in your hands is suboptimal. you just have to extend your hips very explosively and then get under the bar quickly youre right about the position though. the second pull starts mid-thigh I believe. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On August 07 2011 07:20 Zafrumi wrote: you still got it wrong mate drop the swimming (cardio isnt helping you if you want to gain weight) and do full body workouts 3 days a week (no split routine!!!). starting strength or stronglifts are both fine programs to put on a lot of muscle and develop insane levels of strength in a very short time.also, eating more = weight gain lifting will only (well, mostly) affect your body composition. hence just eat more if you want to gain weight gl! Cardio is fine, since he only wants to gain a few more pounds, and it's definitely a good thing to do for overall health. Just have to make sure to eat enough to make up for it. Split routine at the novice stage isn't going to be the best choice no matter how often you're doing it. Nearly everyone in this thread is going to suggest some kind of routine where you do full body lifting (legs + upper body) three times a week. As far as eating goes, definitely start logging your food/counting calories. You'll probably be surprised by what you're actually eating. If you want to gain weight, no way around it. Just eat more. I suggest www.myfitnesspal.com (or their smartphone app) and I know many other people in the thread use www.fitday.com On August 07 2011 07:20 Zafrumi wrote: its not necessarily a "jump". actually just jumping with the weight in your hands is suboptimal. you just have to extend your hips very explosively and then get under the bar quickly What he said. There's not necessarily any "jump" at all in the clean/powerclean, and anyone you see doing so has probably just never been taught proper form. As far as I've been able to get the form down, it's like this: Bring the bar up to your knees, any speed you like. Keep the upper body very tight and the back straight. Between the bar clearing thek nees, and reaching mid thigh, bring the hip forward explosively, while at the same time "shrugging" with the shoulders/traps - try to touch your shoulders to your ears. Keep the upper back as tight as you can through this motion. This creates all the momentum for the bar. While the bar is traveling upward, get under it as fast as you can. Then just pop up with the bar resting on your shoulders, drop it and reset. There's a power clean. -I'm still not the best in the world at this particular lift... so if anyone's got tips for how I do them, feel free to share.- On August 07 2011 04:45 Necosarius wrote: I just read this on Stronglifts.com Really? O.o I mean I don't care if it's true or not, I will always keep my whole back tight but keeping your upper back rounded sounds so bad O.o What's the point here though? Sure, you move more weight... but unless you're looking to get into a powerlifting competition, is making the lift "easier" in order to move the extra weight worth it? You... make it easier on your back, so that you can then go and make it harder? Especially when I can see that leading to more injuries for people who don't have the muscle control and understanding of their body to keep the lower back straight while letting the upper back round. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
It only looks slow in the first pull for Olympic lifters because they are using very heavy weights. Generally, I would start slowly as going fast on your first few times will have technique flaws that throws the bar out in front of you. Once you get the hang of it you want to pull it from the ground as quick as possible though not a set slow speed. If your form is crap off the floor you can always try hang power cleans instead. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Re: jump: Some dudes at my gym (who are very dedicated and seem to know what's up) told me that I should give a little jump and stomp the ground as hard as possible, in sync with catching the bar... Too bad my phone and DSLR don't take videos, I'm going to try to borrow a camera from a friend and tape myself. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On August 07 2011 08:24 Cambium wrote: More specifically, should the bar be touching the thighs when I explode, I feel, sometimes, my thighs give the bar a push, not sure if that's correct. Re: jump: Some dudes at my gym (who are very dedicated and seem to know what's up) told me that I should give a little jump and stump the ground as hard as possible, in sync with catching the bar... Too bad my phone and DSLR don't take videos, I'm going to try to borrow a camera from a friend and tape myself. The jump might happen as a result of the hip explosion with a lighter weight, but it should never be done on purpose. The stomp is just foolish. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 07 2011 08:26 phyre112 wrote: The jump might happen as a result of the hip explosion with a lighter weight, but it should never be done on purpose. The stomp is just foolish. The stomp can be used if they're not getting their feet down quick enough. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
I recently started doing chin-ups with weights (10-15 lbs) and I get this pain in my solar plexus and around that general area similar to being winded but perhaps less intense? Not sure how to describe it. I don't have this issue with any other lifts. Another interesting thing is that I never felt this pain when I was doing bodyweight chin-ups but now it's there for more intense bodyweight (e.g. max reps) as well =/ Any idea what it could be? Am I supposed to be keeping my abs tight all the way through? | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Juddas
768 Posts
LOL sorry for my ignorance. didn't finish OP. Thanks for not flaming | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On August 07 2011 09:08 Juddas wrote: Thanks everybody for the replies! I will upload my diet and workout soon ,but I don't know how great the workout is... would anybody like to suggest something? look in OP | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On August 07 2011 09:08 Juddas wrote: Thanks everybody for the replies! I will upload my diet and workout soon ,but I don't know how great the workout is... would anybody like to suggest something? Underweight teenager, beginning lifter, tall basketball player who wants to get better at his sport? You're textbook Starting Strength man. Check out the OP for some links. Once you're big and strong already, then there are other options, but for now gogogo SS. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
Is the dangers real or exaggerated? | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:32 AoN.DimSum wrote: eshlow is there a lot of dangers in drinking raw milk? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251844 Is the dangers real or exaggerated? mongolians drink it raw and they seem to be fine =/ I was too pussy to try it though lol | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:32 AoN.DimSum wrote: eshlow is there a lot of dangers in drinking raw milk? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251844 Is the dangers real or exaggerated? I would generally say exaggerated. Most of the time you see contamination is when there is lots of milk coming from lots of different cows into a milk processing center and they do incorrect pasteurization. The chances of milk infecting you from a processing center (if they didn't pasteurize) is very high because of the pooling of milk from tens of thousands of cows. If you're getting it from a local farmer, you're only getting it from one cow for the most part. The chances of a single cow being infected with something bad is very small. Additionally, there are substances in raw milk that are bactericidal for what it's worth: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=raw milk bactericidal | ||
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