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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
July 23 2011 21:54 GMT
#9061
On July 23 2011 21:09 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Hey TL-ers you guys are smart so I thought you can help me ((

Strugglin for motivation peeps, been just doing the occasional 20 pushups... how do I motivate myself to work harder and consistently?

Today I was kinda tired and didn't feel like doing squats. So I did them anyway. That's what you need to do if you want consistency.

As for motivation, set a goal
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
July 23 2011 21:59 GMT
#9062
Set a stupidly high goal is even better. It makes that you can't half ass it, period. Seriously though, what are you trying to achieve? Why do you want to get strong/muscular? Is it a girl? Is it sports? I highly recommend buying Starting Strength and bossing hardcore, a lot more useful than pushups.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
July 23 2011 22:30 GMT
#9063
anybody know how I can tell if my toe is broken? I fucked it major hardcore today at the gym. was doing wall handstand pushups and when I came down I came down a little too hard and my big toe smacked vertically into the ground with a conciderable amount of force. I didn't hear a pop or a snap or anything at all and it took 15 seconds before any pain came. now it hurts like a bitch. I can move it but its rediculously painful.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4750 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 22:34:58
July 23 2011 22:34 GMT
#9064
Squat: 187,5kg x 5 PR; 200kg x 2 PR
Press: 81kg x 5 PR; 85kg x 3 PR
Power Clean: 82,5kg 2-2-2-2-2
DB-Row: 30kg 8-8-8

Doing doubles for PCs now instead of triples... my shoulders are always to beat up after pressing and form doesn't get better during the third rep. I am pretty sure that is a good idea
All in all, the workouts are hard, but I am making good progress while also doing cardio and HIIT on off-days, so everything is good on the lifting front.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 23 2011 22:52 GMT
#9065
Squat: 330lbs 5-5-5 (PR)
Deadlift: 370lbs 1-1
ChinUps: BW+45lbs (PR)
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4750 Posts
July 23 2011 23:02 GMT
#9066
On July 24 2011 07:52 thedeadhaji wrote:
Squat: 330lbs 5-5-5 (PR)
Deadlift: 370lbs 1-1
ChinUps: BW+45lbs (PR)


You are becoming ****ing strong
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#9067
says the guy lifting 1.5x me lol
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4750 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 23:30:28
July 23 2011 23:28 GMT
#9068
but you are a lean ~170lb (?) young prince, and I am not
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 23 2011 23:31 GMT
#9069
I'm also only 5"8
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 23 2011 23:46 GMT
#9070
On July 23 2011 23:43 GoTuNk! wrote:
Open question:

Yesterday on my 3rd set I failed my last squat and it was the first time I have failed a squat. Now my left abductor is a bit tight but I think (*hopefully*, gasp) that it will be ok for light work monday ofter some rest and heat. Last time I failed a bench I hurt my wrist.
I often find myself dealing with injuries whenever I fail a rep. Is this common? Will this become worse as my strength-mass ratio keeps increasing?


If you feel that you're unsafe working out then take a break. Health > goals IMO... and you can always come back to it in a couple days
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 23 2011 23:46 GMT
#9071
On July 24 2011 07:30 Sinep wrote:
anybody know how I can tell if my toe is broken? I fucked it major hardcore today at the gym. was doing wall handstand pushups and when I came down I came down a little too hard and my big toe smacked vertically into the ground with a conciderable amount of force. I didn't hear a pop or a snap or anything at all and it took 15 seconds before any pain came. now it hurts like a bitch. I can move it but its rediculously painful.


Get it checked by a doc, yo
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
July 24 2011 02:49 GMT
#9072
On July 24 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:30 Sinep wrote:
anybody know how I can tell if my toe is broken? I fucked it major hardcore today at the gym. was doing wall handstand pushups and when I came down I came down a little too hard and my big toe smacked vertically into the ground with a conciderable amount of force. I didn't hear a pop or a snap or anything at all and it took 15 seconds before any pain came. now it hurts like a bitch. I can move it but its rediculously painful.


Get it checked by a doc, yo


I will if it persists, was just hoping there was some easy way I could check cause I just arrived in australia and would prefer not to make an unessasary trip to the doctor
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 24 2011 03:09 GMT
#9073
On July 24 2011 11:49 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
On July 24 2011 07:30 Sinep wrote:
anybody know how I can tell if my toe is broken? I fucked it major hardcore today at the gym. was doing wall handstand pushups and when I came down I came down a little too hard and my big toe smacked vertically into the ground with a conciderable amount of force. I didn't hear a pop or a snap or anything at all and it took 15 seconds before any pain came. now it hurts like a bitch. I can move it but its rediculously painful.


Get it checked by a doc, yo


I will if it persists, was just hoping there was some easy way I could check cause I just arrived in australia and would prefer not to make an unessasary trip to the doctor


Well, RICE and anti-inflam it up then.... if it swells you can also use some massage to help move the fluid out

If it doesn't start getting better within about 4-5 days you probably did some bad damage that you need to get checked..
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 24 2011 07:52 GMT
#9074
going to hike @ Big Sur tomorrow wheeee
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 10:14:03
July 24 2011 08:39 GMT
#9075
Quick training update:

11/7:
50kg squat 5-5-5
50kg bench press 5-5-5
50kg deadlift 5x1

23/7
75kg squat 5-5-5
57.5kg bench press 5-5-5
75kg deadlift 5x1


It's getting hard adding on 5kg on the squats every workout, 2.5kg on the bench press every workout etc. How do I keep adding weight from now on? I think I can progress two, maybe three trainings like this if I really scream 'TLLLLLL' to the top of my lungs on every rep.

But what is the norm here? 5kg a week on squats? 5kg on tuesday and 5kg on saturday? Just halving the weight added per workout? Cheers.

Also Malinor, since you really seem to hate the shape of your body, can't you buy a cardio program or whatever? Like stop lifting for like 2-3 weeks, lose a lot of pounds and reset and take it from there?
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 09:42:46
July 24 2011 09:06 GMT
#9076
okay i have a bit of a problem.
as eshlow stated a few pages ago ''working out 4 hours before sleep is not good as it is more suscpetible to overtaining'' so with that in mind i changed from working out from 7-8pm to now 4-5 pm (i sleep at 10 btw.)
i use choc milk/normal milk with milo for my protein Post workout meal. I drink 3 cups of milk which equates to 50-60grams of carbs and 30grams of protein. i am 16 years old and i am 170cm which is 5.5 feet i think. so this should be enough.

here's the problem- i get diarhea 2/3 times when i drink milk THEN EAT DINNER 2-3 hours later. So i eat dinner at around 7:30pm. And yes i can tolerate milk. i CAN eat cereal regularly, drink a cup of milk whenever i feel like it and also about 2-3 cups before i go to sleep sometimes.
It's just that when i eat dinner after the milk i get diarhoea.
are there any foods i should be avoiding after drinking milk? i ate meat a few times after the milk which probably caused it. Or should i just eat alot less for the PWO dinners?
If i was to reduce the amount of milk i drank (then slowly increase the amount so my body can take it better) would it help solve this problem? but this also means less carbs and less protein for my post workout.

OR should i just go back to working out after dinner at around 7-8 and just drink the 3 cups of milk without the diarhea? i have googled the 4 hours thing and i have found some debate on personal preference/consistency versus just going with the rule of no workout before 4 hours of sleep. And i know it means that ''there is nothing but milk in my system for 9 hours'' but i can wake up and drink more milk in the middle of the night if it helps.

I would be more happy with changing it back to working out 7-8 as i would get my dinner in with no problem but also workout. i will try to eat dinner then workout from 6-7 maybe if it helps.

Thanks for reading and for any help in advance.
Edit: i am 137 lb / 62kg
PS. @thedeadhaji holy shit nice squat and deadlift
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
July 24 2011 09:56 GMT
#9077
On July 24 2011 07:52 thedeadhaji wrote:
Squat: 330lbs 5-5-5 (PR)
Deadlift: 370lbs 1-1
ChinUps: BW+45lbs (PR)


Hahaha, as usual I'm going to look at your post and complain about being tall. Wtf man!!! You outsquat me by 100 pounds and I'm 40 pounds heavier than you :D. You have some beastly ass legs, and your dead lift/chinups are nothing to scoff at either.

Keep up the good work. I'm still too embarrassed to post my squat progression (or lack thereof), but I'm trying to hit that 225 pound mark for my levers (as Rip and company would call them) to start working better.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4750 Posts
July 24 2011 10:53 GMT
#9078
On July 24 2011 17:39 BouBou.865 wrote:
Quick training update:

11/7:
50kg squat 5-5-5
50kg bench press 5-5-5
50kg deadlift 5x1

23/7
75kg squat 5-5-5
57.5kg bench press 5-5-5
75kg deadlift 5x1


It's getting hard adding on 5kg on the squats every workout, 2.5kg on the bench press every workout etc. How do I keep adding weight from now on? I think I can progress two, maybe three trainings like this if I really scream 'TLLLLLL' to the top of my lungs on every rep.

But what is the norm here? 5kg a week on squats? 5kg on tuesday and 5kg on saturday? Just halving the weight added per workout? Cheers.

Also Malinor, since you really seem to hate the shape of your body, can't you buy a cardio program or whatever? Like stop lifting for like 2-3 weeks, lose a lot of pounds and reset and take it from there?


Start with 2,5kg jumps for squats now, you don't want to get stuck this early. It still adds up to 7.5kg a week. Always remember that the goal during SS is not to lift the maximum amount you could lift on any given day and to get there as fast as possible, but to increase weight for several months every workout. Deloading because of getting stuck too early is never fun. Keep 5kg jumps for Deadlifts though, since they are only once every second workout, you can maybe even increase for 7,5kg for 1-2 weeks to let it surpass your squat (of course only if 75kg feels pretty easy).

Regarding 'hating my body shape': I was merely congratulating haji for his amazing progress, he is nearly squatting 2xBW for three sets of five and his bench is super impressive also. I just wanted to point out that me lifting more in absolute terms doesn't make his numbers less impressive.
No hardcore all-out cardio programm is gonna get me where I want to be. I ran a marathon in 2005, you probably cannot lose more weight by running than I did during that 8 months of training, but I still ended up with the same body again. The only way to change is to improve my eating habbits. And I am doing just that. It doesn't matter if the process takes 6 months or 2 years from now on, it just needs to be sustainable.
And I don't hate eveything about my body. I actually like the fact that I am much stronger than all of you little people in here

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
July 24 2011 11:27 GMT
#9079
On July 24 2011 18:06 jjhchsc2 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
okay i have a bit of a problem.
as eshlow stated a few pages ago ''working out 4 hours before sleep is not good as it is more suscpetible to overtaining'' so with that in mind i changed from working out from 7-8pm to now 4-5 pm (i sleep at 10 btw.)
i use choc milk/normal milk with milo for my protein Post workout meal. I drink 3 cups of milk which equates to 50-60grams of carbs and 30grams of protein. i am 16 years old and i am 170cm which is 5.5 feet i think. so this should be enough.

here's the problem- i get diarhea 2/3 times when i drink milk THEN EAT DINNER 2-3 hours later. So i eat dinner at around 7:30pm. And yes i can tolerate milk. i CAN eat cereal regularly, drink a cup of milk whenever i feel like it and also about 2-3 cups before i go to sleep sometimes.
It's just that when i eat dinner after the milk i get diarhoea.
are there any foods i should be avoiding after drinking milk? i ate meat a few times after the milk which probably caused it. Or should i just eat alot less for the PWO dinners?
If i was to reduce the amount of milk i drank (then slowly increase the amount so my body can take it better) would it help solve this problem? but this also means less carbs and less protein for my post workout.

OR should i just go back to working out after dinner at around 7-8 and just drink the 3 cups of milk without the diarhea? i have googled the 4 hours thing and i have found some debate on personal preference/consistency versus just going with the rule of no workout before 4 hours of sleep. And i know it means that ''there is nothing but milk in my system for 9 hours'' but i can wake up and drink more milk in the middle of the night if it helps.

I would be more happy with changing it back to working out 7-8 as i would get my dinner in with no problem but also workout. i will try to eat dinner then workout from 6-7 maybe if it helps.

Thanks for reading and for any help in advance.
Edit: i am 137 lb / 62kg
PS. @thedeadhaji holy shit nice squat and deadlift


Go back to your old training time. Overtraining shouldn't really concern you.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
July 24 2011 11:56 GMT
#9080
Waiting for my plane at Oslo airport. Cant wait to get home and start training again.

This week off has been really appreciated (even though I felt like I didn't need it). Shoulder feels fine and now I have about 3-4 weeks before insanity mode kicks in with 3 weeks of smolov (planning on putting 170kg in the calc -.-), a week off and then running Coan-Philippi with a 240/250kg desired max.

Going to be an interesting period.
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