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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
July 08 2011 19:22 GMT
#8501
On July 09 2011 04:03 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 04:02 Tulius wrote:
On July 09 2011 03:52 Advocado wrote:
Guys I'm having trouble making any kind of progress on the Press at all. been stuck on 15 kg (up and down) since january. Any suggestions what to do?


1. reset 20% and go up 1 or 2kg every session
2. eat a lot (but not just before the workout)
3. watch Ripp's videos http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Press_Videos
4. put some good (and fast) music in your mp3 player
5. tighten all your muscles specially your abs
6. turn on BEAST MODE
7. ???
8. profit


And rage.

Definitely, rage when in need. I always, always, scream tL HEALTH AND FITNESS at my last rep of my last set. Specially DL.

good luck.


How the hell can I reset 20% seriously I'll start with empty bar and can't even warm up without it affecting my sets. Fucking press. I've resetted 3 times already.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
July 08 2011 19:25 GMT
#8502
its more than likely a technique issue advocado..

i had the same problems with my squat (came to the point where i almost benched as much as i squatted, and i deadlift 137.5kg) i adjusted my form and now ive had steady gains ever since.. its a pain in the ass and its REALLY demotivating, but once you get it down its a great feeling to get those gains again
SQUATS AND OATS!
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
July 08 2011 19:42 GMT
#8503
Only time I rage is when I miss a squat. Then I go apeshit and throw stuff around until I calm down. One of the benefits of training at home haha there's always something nearby that I don't mind breaking and nobody around to witness my temper (except neighbors who already know how crazy I am).

@Froadac; KEEP IT UP! How long do you have to do PT for ?


And the real reason I post. I need someone to talk some game sense into me in the next few minutes. I am on the verge of turning down an invitation to spend a night in the city with 2 ridiculously hot chicks because I am not really feeling that well and I have a lot of stuff to do tomorrow. What the FUCK is wrong with me? I must be getting old. But fuck that shit! Really, damn!
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 08 2011 20:19 GMT
#8504
At least two more weeks. Then I'm back on SS + some core stuff.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 08 2011 20:23 GMT
#8505
On July 09 2011 04:42 MajinMojo wrote:
Only time I rage is when I miss a squat. Then I go apeshit and throw stuff around until I calm down. One of the benefits of training at home haha there's always something nearby that I don't mind breaking and nobody around to witness my temper (except neighbors who already know how crazy I am).

@Froadac; KEEP IT UP! How long do you have to do PT for ?


And the real reason I post. I need someone to talk some game sense into me in the next few minutes. I am on the verge of turning down an invitation to spend a night in the city with 2 ridiculously hot chicks because I am not really feeling that well and I have a lot of stuff to do tomorrow. What the FUCK is wrong with me? I must be getting old. But fuck that shit! Really, damn!



If working out and general fitness teachs you is that you will always recover, and there's no bigger power in life than Willpower.

Whenever you feel like you can't hit that rep, willpower. Whenever you feel like weight is too much, willpower. Whenever you feel like you can no more, willpower. Always bro, always willpower.

Just fucking get up your ass, get ready for action, and get some fucking pussy going on tonight. Fuck yes. GO. FUCKING Go.

HIT IT
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 08 2011 21:06 GMT
#8506
Box Squats
165 lbs x 5-5-5

Good Mornings
65 x 8-8-8

Hack Squat
190 x 10-10-10

CGBP
125 x 5-5-5

Skull Crushers
45 x 12-12-12
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Gotta say, the hack squat sets today are one of the reasons I love lifting. After a grueling first set I just whipped my own ass into shape and nailed the last two easier than the first. Don't get me wrong, they sucked ass, but I still got em done.

Everything else was good; Box squats and good mornings are progressing nicely. I still need to get a video of them. When I'm doing CGBP, I have more of a problem with the bar feeling like its about to slip out of my hands than anything. Skull crushers are eh, they bother my elbows somewhat but not too bad.

And I grilled today. Around 3 pounds of chicken. The big guys didn't get cooked all the way through (Damn!), but they were still fucking awesome. I needed to keep them in there for like another two minutes and they would have been perfect.
Victory Loves Preparation
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 08 2011 22:18 GMT
#8507
On July 09 2011 03:06 Necosarius wrote:
So anyone got a nice upper/lower body 4-day split? My brother refuses to try a full body workout because "the pros" at a swedish misc forum aren't doing so. He's not that much of a beginner, he can squat 110 kg x5 and DL 125 kg so maybe a 4-day split wont be that bad for him at all >_>


A classic push/pull or westside would probably work well

On July 09 2011 03:49 MajinMojo wrote:
Wow tried some yoga today for the first time in a few months. I mainly feel like I need to open up my hips a lot especially my flexors and adductors since I've let those areas slip in mobility work. Or at least it feels like I did. But as it turns out I'm pretty much just as flexible as I always was and probably even more so in certain areas like hammies and glutes.

However, my overall ability to do any sort of isometric lunges has been shredded to nothing right now. Like 3 minutes into crescent and the warrior sequence my flexors and quads were burned out.

Strange, since I have the same or more flexibility in most areas, but it just feels tighter and more shitty when I do it. Even when I get through like half of my range in a stretch. What to make of it?


Gotta warm up yo
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 22:53:00
July 08 2011 22:52 GMT
#8508
On July 09 2011 07:18 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 03:06 Necosarius wrote:
So anyone got a nice upper/lower body 4-day split? My brother refuses to try a full body workout because "the pros" at a swedish misc forum aren't doing so. He's not that much of a beginner, he can squat 110 kg x5 and DL 125 kg so maybe a 4-day split wont be that bad for him at all >_>


A classic push/pull or westside would probably work well


PUSH PULL! I'm loving mine right now. Only thing about doing it 4 days/week is that going two days in a row would definitely wear on the shoulder after a while, and that the additional volume over SS or something similar is going to be tough to get used to - again, especailly if you've got it on a friday AND a saturday or something.

push pull I'm using is just "every other day"

Push:
Squat 3x5
Flat Bench 3x5
Push Press 3x6-10
Standing Calf Raise 3x10-15
Slight Incline DB Bench 3x6-10

Pull:
Deadlift 1x5
Hamstring Curl 3x8-12
Power Clean 5x3
Barbell Row 3x5
Pullup 3x6-10
Curls 3x6-10

Deadlift, barbell row, squat and Flat Bench aim to increase weight linearly. Power Cleans go with what you can do, but challenge yourself. Lifts with rep ranges are assistance, aim to increase either reps or weight every workout. It's the additional volume over a full body workout that I wanted, and it's still dominated by heavy compound lifts.

(BTW thanks again decaf for the mental push to upgrade from good mornings to power clean =x)
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
July 08 2011 23:01 GMT
#8509
Yo phyre, swap out leg curls for good mornings and do them after the PC. Then you're in good shape.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 08 2011 23:31 GMT
#8510
On July 09 2011 08:01 sJarl wrote:
Yo phyre, swap out leg curls for good mornings and do them after the PC. Then you're in good shape.


I had to pick between either good morning or powercleans; I just don't have the energy to finish both. In the long term, when I'm better adapted to the amount of lifts I aim to switch those back in, but for the moment, that'll leave me not walking for days. Not everyone is a beastly strongman viking like yourself =p.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 09 2011 00:34 GMT
#8511
Squated 137kg x 5 at 75kg bodyweight (304 @ 165) today. Feels good.



130x5 yesterday was really hard so i'm super happy I made it.
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Linear Periodization
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RemedySC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada176 Posts
July 09 2011 00:46 GMT
#8512
Squat 160lb 3x5
Bench press 100lbs 3x5
Dead lift 155lbs 3x5 175lbs 1x1

Here is a video of my last set of squats, definitely needs more work. Going to try harder every time now though!

sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
July 09 2011 01:08 GMT
#8513
@Phyre: You could also alternate leg curls and good mornings every other session. Since your frequency is quite high you could in effect get the benefits from both exercices.

@GoTuNk: I'm not sure I like this pause you do right before hitting the hole. It makes the lift so incredibly unstable. From this angle (which is pretty bad) you also look like you are falling way to much forward.

@RemedySC: Pretty nice apart from a couple of things. You need to get deeper (having hip at least breaking parallel to the knee) and your upper back needs to tighten up. When you are moving up from the "hole" your upper back slackens and rounds, making you tilt forward.
------

Managed to do some light benching today, finishing with 2 sets of 60kg x 8.

Deadlifting seems to be fine, worked up to a double of 185kg and a single 195kg lift.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 01:40:41
July 09 2011 01:40 GMT
#8514
On July 09 2011 10:08 sJarl wrote:
@Phyre: You could also alternate leg curls and good mornings every other session. Since your frequency is quite high you could in effect get the benefits from both exercices.

@GoTuNk: I'm not sure I like this pause you do right before hitting the hole. It makes the lift so incredibly unstable. From this angle (which is pretty bad) you also look like you are falling way to much forward.

@RemedySC: Pretty nice apart from a couple of things. You need to get deeper (having hip at least breaking parallel to the knee) and your upper back needs to tighten up. When you are moving up from the "hole" your upper back slackens and rounds, making you tilt forward.
------

Managed to do some light benching today, finishing with 2 sets of 60kg x 8.

Deadlifting seems to be fine, worked up to a double of 185kg and a single 195kg lift.


Thanks for the imput.

By going foward u mean in a goodmorning-esque sense right? cause by watching the vids my shins go slighty foward.
About the pause, how would u correct it cause I don't like it either? I feel i'm not activating my glutes (back part of my leg) if I descend faster, and also I don't feel the "bounce" if I do it in an uninterrupted motion.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 01:47:52
July 09 2011 01:47 GMT
#8515
Yeah, like good mornings.

As for the pause, just controlling the decent all the way would prolly be the best idea and the blast out if it when you go below parallel.

For more glute activation it has helped me immensely to widen my stance a bit, pointing my toes more out and "open" up the hips by having your knees move a little more out in line with your toes. So from ||.....|| to \\....// - where the first bar is your foot and toes and the second one is the femur and the dots the distance between your legs

I hope you get the image I'm trying to create lol
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
RemedySC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada176 Posts
July 09 2011 02:25 GMT
#8516
On July 09 2011 10:08 sJarl wrote:
@Phyre: You could also alternate leg curls and good mornings every other session. Since your frequency is quite high you could in effect get the benefits from both exercices.

@GoTuNk: I'm not sure I like this pause you do right before hitting the hole. It makes the lift so incredibly unstable. From this angle (which is pretty bad) you also look like you are falling way to much forward.

@RemedySC: Pretty nice apart from a couple of things. You need to get deeper (having hip at least breaking parallel to the knee) and your upper back needs to tighten up. When you are moving up from the "hole" your upper back slackens and rounds, making you tilt forward.
------

Managed to do some light benching today, finishing with 2 sets of 60kg x 8.

Deadlifting seems to be fine, worked up to a double of 185kg and a single 195kg lift.


Thank for the advice!

After a month of doing SS I feel a lot better than before, when I was just doing random stuff at the gym.

Also can't wait till the next workout on Monday!
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 02:35:04
July 09 2011 02:34 GMT
#8517
@sJarl, sounds like a great way to build up the volume, only doing good mornings once in a while. Even dropping hamstring curls though, I still can't do good mornings AND power Cleans. Maybe if I were to back off on my deadlift weight... But I love deadlift. That's the focus of the entire day, and it's definitely the lift that I'm best at. I don't want to back off on that.

@Remedy like sJarl said, there's a problem with leaning forward. It's especially noticeable in the fourth and fifth rep of the set, which makes perfect sense. If you're not tired by then, you aren't doing heavy enough squats. I have exactly the same problem when my squat gets heavy. The best way I've found to deal with it is to keep the back more vertical right from the beginning. High Bar squats FTW, ATG if you have the flexibility. They're much harder to do though (for me at least) so you'll have to make up your mind on if this is worth it, or you can find another way to fix it.

Last rep, your knees buckle in. Do anything you can to stop that from occuring, it's the greatest way EVER to hurt yourself. As far as getting that bounce from the glutes at the bottom of the squat... Get a bit lower, make sure that hips are below knees. When you start the motion, keep everything tight (squeeze those abs. Chest out, head up, back arch set.) and lead the motion with the hips. Sit BACK, instead of just down, and control it the whole way. Don't Pause or you're going to get stuck.

All together, your squat form looks a lot like what mine did ~February. It's not the worst thing in the world, but I ended up hurting my knees quite badly a month later, so there are definitely things that you want to look at and fix up. Good Luck man.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
July 09 2011 03:30 GMT
#8518
Just bought this:

[image loading]

Going to do some research on mountain bike trails and start heading out from next week. Something about just going to the gym for exercise that no longer excites me.

I've also sussed out some indoor rock climbing centres that I want to check out.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 04:13:31
July 09 2011 04:13 GMT
#8519
On July 09 2011 12:30 Energies wrote:
Just bought this:

[image loading]

Going to do some research on mountain bike trails and start heading out from next week. Something about just going to the gym for exercise that no longer excites me.

I've also sussed out some indoor rock climbing centres that I want to check out.


Dude, get it. Whether you're weight training, running, swimming, pogo-sticking, or whatever, I think we're all glad that you're making moves in your life. I mean hell, without you here, we'd never have had this thread. Without that first thread you threw out here in '09, I'd never have gotten into lifting (I still only lurked for another year and a half but whatever).

Energies Being awesome bomb follows:

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On July 01 2009 23:49 Energies wrote:
I'm in sales and consulting. Selling rigging gear to mining and offshore companies. It'd be great to do personal training for a living. But I'd settle for doing it for free as long as people appreciate and utilise the help, if the direction of my life ever halts or changes, I would get my qualification for sure.

Great work and progress on your running man, I remember when you started, you were walking. Now a 10km run!

I'm doing the Perth city to Surf in August. it's a 12km run, although I'm doing it purely for the exercise, not a strong enough runner to make it competitive. My goal is <60min though. I'm going to start training for it from next week as part of my increased cardio.



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On October 28 2010 22:40 Energies wrote:
I have given up gluten and dairy, along with my diet and supplements my intake couldn't be any healthier, I just consume copious amounts of meat and vegetables. I'm also working out 5 days a week.


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On August 12 2009 00:16 Energies wrote:
Update: Figure I'd post this, I will eventually post some pictures shirtless when I am completely happy with the results (Probably Summer), this one is merely to show progress.

[image loading]

Stay motivated everyone, you will get the results.



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On February 15 2009 13:22 Energies wrote:
I am owning hardcore, I'm really proud of myself actually. I won't reach my original goal which I think was quite an amazing one to try and set anyway.

Current Weight: 162lb
Goal Weight - 150lb
Starting Date: January 5th
Goal Date: February 20th

Current Weight (February 15th): 154lb

45 days to try and lose 12lb. Which would have been realistic when I was 60-70lb overweight but I don't have much to lose now.

Still 40 days into my goal and I am down to 154lb. Which is -8lb, I'm sure if I went hardcore I could lose another 2lb in the next 5 days, but there is no rush. With the amount of weight training I have been doing, my shoulders and arms have gotten a lot larger and more defined, core and back are a lot stronger and my fitness levels have gone through the roof.

I am now in the final stages of my ultimate goal of a six-pack which is still realistically 2-4 months away I'd say. I am riding anywhere between 30-50km (20-30miles) a day depending on time constraints. Have cut down the gym to 3 times a week but all 3 sessions are personal training sessions.

I am no longer on so much of a "diet". But my natural eating has become very healthy and it is something I don't even think about anymore it just comes naturally. I now eat enough food to put a horse to shame, but it is all balanced and healthy and in the right portions, and still, I am losing body fat and gaining muscle with my intake.

I know this is probably a bit vein, but riding my bike to work now I occasionally jump on the train if I am running late. I wear track suit shorts and a tank top while cycling. I am getting some pretty defined arms and shoulders and I have a backpack with clips on the front that extenuates my chest. Basically every time I get on, there will be at least 2-3 girls staring at me when they think I don't see them. (Just something I am not use to)



Bockit, that is a very realistic goal and I am sure you will have no problems achieving it. I've also noticed ever since I started getting fit and healthy and put on muscle mass, binges don't even dent my progress, its almost as if my body knows it is only temporary and regardless of how much alcohol or junk food I consume, my body just writes it off and gets right back on track a couple of days later.

I am really proud of everyone in this thread who put an effort into achieving their goal or even just a small change in lifestyle, as long as it has been something you kept up with or plan on following through.


You've been fucking awesome for three years of threads, and (I checked your blog) even before that man. Keep it up, keep being awesome.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
July 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#8520
Damn, wish I could invite some of you over to my place today, such nice weather and it is only 10.30am.

Could go and take a nice lifting session, drop by the pools and grill some...oh well. Distance sucks.
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