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wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 04:14:45
July 06 2011 04:04 GMT
#8361
Hi I am new to this thread (which seems like a big deal, as while sifting through a few pages of comments it felt like many "regulars"). That is not why I'm posting here however. (lol). I used to be in great shape (aka six pack, generally good shape) as a huge soccer player. I recently did some damage to my knee, and I recovered about a month ago. 1 thing I noticed, was I was extremely out of shape as expected. 1 month later, still playing soccer, and I'm in no better shape. I still have flab where the six pack used to lie, and I have yet to regain full strength and stamina. I am wondering how to regain my body of old, and get back into soccer form. I am 15 years old, 5'6 and 110 pounds right now(down from 115). Most of what I have to do will have to be things of the like sit ups push ups, running, hill sprints (there is a hill near enough to where I live) since i'm only 15, and can't exactly by work out equipment. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Please PM me with the help, since the likely hood of me finding the replies on this thread is slim, but you can feel free to respond here as well. Thanks-wattabeast
EDIT:Basically in fewer words, what would a good, simple workout routine be to get me in shape in about 1.5 months. Thanks again
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
July 06 2011 04:14 GMT
#8362
Abs are made in the kitchen. Eat clean (no processed junk) and don't eat too much.

As for conditioning and such, i'd recommend doing high intensity interval training (HIIT). This will work great with the hill near your house (sprint up it, jog down, rinse and repeat). Especially since incline sprinting will really help with your technique as it forces you to stay on your toes, knees high, etc.

but then again at 5'6 110 i would definitely try to put on some weight, most girls i know weigh more than that :-/

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
July 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#8363
On July 06 2011 13:14 decafchicken wrote:
Abs are made in the kitchen. Eat clean (no processed junk) and don't eat too much.

As for conditioning and such, i'd recommend doing high intensity interval training (HIIT). This will work great with the hill near your house (sprint up it, jog down, rinse and repeat). Especially since incline sprinting will really help with your technique as it forces you to stay on your toes, knees high, etc.

but then again at 5'6 110 i would definitely try to put on some weight, most girls i know weigh more than that :-/


Thanks, also that was a lot of the point, to put on weight. I needed to put on weight before, and now even more so. How long would I do the HIT for? sets of X? Thanks again.
:O
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 04:24:01
July 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#8364
To add on a ton of mostly muscle mass stupidly fast see the OP where it talks about starting strength. This will require a barbell, weights, and a squat rack. All of which 95% of high schools in the country should have.

As for the HIIT i usually set myself a vaguely obscure/difficult goal, like till i feel like vomiting, legs shaking, cant stand, etc. But i'm also training for collegiate rugby, i dont know how hard you should be pushing yourself as a high schooler recovering from a knee injury. Take it easy at first, when i'm getting back into shape i start off low (say 1 or 2 laps around the track 100m sprint 100m jog 100m sprint 100m jog) and then add one or two laps each week, you could do something similar. Keep in mind it is somewhat difficult to both add significant gains in strength/mass while doing HIIT.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 04:23:44
July 06 2011 04:23 GMT
#8365
On July 06 2011 13:16 wattabeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 13:14 decafchicken wrote:
Abs are made in the kitchen. Eat clean (no processed junk) and don't eat too much.

As for conditioning and such, i'd recommend doing high intensity interval training (HIIT). This will work great with the hill near your house (sprint up it, jog down, rinse and repeat). Especially since incline sprinting will really help with your technique as it forces you to stay on your toes, knees high, etc.

but then again at 5'6 110 i would definitely try to put on some weight, most girls i know weigh more than that :-/


Thanks, also that was a lot of the point, to put on weight. I needed to put on weight before, and now even more so. How long would I do the HIT for? sets of X? Thanks again.


Without knowing you, and what kind of shape you're in now, we can't really suggest how long you should run for. You know your body better than we do, but be honest, push yourself and make it harder each time.

putting on weight happens through eating. Putting on muscle happens through eating well, and lifting. look at the OP for Starting strength to do that.
Iggnite
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
July 06 2011 04:58 GMT
#8366
Nothing better than hitting the weights and playing starcraft 2 everyday. I Endorse this thread.
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
July 06 2011 05:04 GMT
#8367
On July 06 2011 12:58 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 12:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Is it fine to workout after dinner ? like at 7-8pm
Coz milk (my PWO meal) doesnt digest well enough for me to have dinner.
I usually work out around 4-5pm.


I would avoid lifting at least 4 hrs before you sleep because it can negatively affect your sleep quality.


Is it a noticeable effect?
Because I didn't notice anything with my sleep and i have lifted like 2 hours before i sleep several times.
So i take it that it doesnt matter if i workout after dinner just as long as i lift least 4 hours before i sleep. lol
Will try to avoid lifting 4 hours before sleep.

On July 06 2011 12:49 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 12:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Is it fine to workout after dinner ? like at 7-8pm
Coz milk (my PWO meal) doesnt digest well enough for me to have dinner.
I usually work out around 4-5pm.


Time of day doesn't have a serious impact on your lifting, (except maybe if you're a competitive bodybuilder.) Just get into a routine that your body is comfortable with - I like to go at 2 - 4 pm. It's all personal preference.


Thats the time i want to workout as well but i cant due to work.
But i can get into a routine that my body can be coomfortable with.
Thanks for the advice.
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geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
July 06 2011 05:38 GMT
#8368
I just realized why my squats were more difficult than I was expecting on Monday. Apparently I jumped 20 pounds instead of 15 (from 75 -> 95). I have the weights to hit up to 80 and 95 and above but not between. I have a feeling that 15 lb. jump is going to be MUCH harder when I have to make it for OH and Bench press

Anything I can jerry-rig to hit the in between numbers? I've only got pairs of 2.5, 5, 10, 25, 35, and 45 plates which is making this a bit annoying.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
July 06 2011 05:46 GMT
#8369
Ok so I kind of deviated away from SS even though I know I could still progress if I stay on the program. Right now I'm training monday, tuesday, thursday and friday. I'm squatting on each workout, alternating back and front each day (front squat is quickly catching up to my back squat, did 90kg 3x5) then basically following the same template as SS (press/bench and deadlift). I have so much fucking free time, so basically I do the above in the morning, I get home, eat and take a nap then I do C&J and snatches in the late afternoon.

I think my snatch is a bit better (eliminated the swinging motion) but I still feel really off-balance when I go down and sometimes the bar swings to my back as I squat. Still working on it! GOGO.
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MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
July 06 2011 06:04 GMT
#8370
On July 06 2011 14:38 geno wrote:
I just realized why my squats were more difficult than I was expecting on Monday. Apparently I jumped 20 pounds instead of 15 (from 75 -> 95). I have the weights to hit up to 80 and 95 and above but not between. I have a feeling that 15 lb. jump is going to be MUCH harder when I have to make it for OH and Bench press

Anything I can jerry-rig to hit the in between numbers? I've only got pairs of 2.5, 5, 10, 25, 35, and 45 plates which is making this a bit annoying.


How much does your bar weigh?
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
July 06 2011 09:41 GMT
#8371
man doing squats at the end of an olympic workout and while cutting is gay 100kg 5-5-4
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
July 06 2011 10:59 GMT
#8372
On July 06 2011 15:04 MeShiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 14:38 geno wrote:
I just realized why my squats were more difficult than I was expecting on Monday. Apparently I jumped 20 pounds instead of 15 (from 75 -> 95). I have the weights to hit up to 80 and 95 and above but not between. I have a feeling that 15 lb. jump is going to be MUCH harder when I have to make it for OH and Bench press

Anything I can jerry-rig to hit the in between numbers? I've only got pairs of 2.5, 5, 10, 25, 35, and 45 plates which is making this a bit annoying.


How much does your bar weigh?

45lbs almost on the dot. Olympic size.

I have a second lighter one (closer to 20lbs) that I got for free on craigslist with the power rack I picked up, but it's a normal barbell so I can't really secure any of my weights on it. And it's also a shorter bar, so it will be very difficult to do within my power rack without hitting the safety pins on the way down for bench.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 06 2011 11:02 GMT
#8373
On July 06 2011 14:04 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 12:58 eshlow wrote:
On July 06 2011 12:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Is it fine to workout after dinner ? like at 7-8pm
Coz milk (my PWO meal) doesnt digest well enough for me to have dinner.
I usually work out around 4-5pm.


I would avoid lifting at least 4 hrs before you sleep because it can negatively affect your sleep quality.


Is it a noticeable effect?
Because I didn't notice anything with my sleep and i have lifted like 2 hours before i sleep several times.
So i take it that it doesnt matter if i workout after dinner just as long as i lift least 4 hours before i sleep. lol
Will try to avoid lifting 4 hours before sleep.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 12:49 phyre112 wrote:
On July 06 2011 12:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Is it fine to workout after dinner ? like at 7-8pm
Coz milk (my PWO meal) doesnt digest well enough for me to have dinner.
I usually work out around 4-5pm.


Time of day doesn't have a serious impact on your lifting, (except maybe if you're a competitive bodybuilder.) Just get into a routine that your body is comfortable with - I like to go at 2 - 4 pm. It's all personal preference.


Thats the time i want to workout as well but i cant due to work.
But i can get into a routine that my body can be coomfortable with.
Thanks for the advice.


May not be noticable now but likely will later
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AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
July 06 2011 11:32 GMT
#8374
I am about to have lots of time with the holidays coming along. My plan is to use this book Mon/Wed/Fri and maybe HIIT on Tuesday/Thursday. I definitely have the time to do them, I probably have the fitness required. I would do SS if I could but I'm a cheapskate and I don't really have access to any gyms. The book was just one I found lying around. I just began the pushups training this week, I've been doing long distance running for about a month now but I'm thinking of converting to HIIT.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 06 2011 11:44 GMT
#8375
On July 06 2011 20:32 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I am about to have lots of time with the holidays coming along. My plan is to use this book Mon/Wed/Fri and maybe HIIT on Tuesday/Thursday. I definitely have the time to do them, I probably have the fitness required. I would do SS if I could but I'm a cheapskate and I don't really have access to any gyms. The book was just one I found lying around. I just began the pushups training this week, I've been doing long distance running for about a month now but I'm thinking of converting to HIIT.


Uh, what are your goals?

Pushups won't make you good at anything but pushups and they won't give you much muscle either
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 12:45:00
July 06 2011 12:43 GMT
#8376
eshlow what is your homepage? would be quite interested in reading some (all) of your stuff
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 12:55:34
July 06 2011 12:51 GMT
#8377
i have a question..

is there something you could call a "mental plateu" when it comes to lifting?

ive been cutting pretty hard the last 6 weeks while maintaining my lifts and increasing my deadlift and dips gradually but had a full stop on the other lifts (alot of excess body fat btw)

however the last 2 weeks ive seen some insanely solid gains, 5 kgs on my bench, 10 kg on my squats, went from 4 chinups x 3 to 8-8-8 and my weighted dips are now at +15kg.. i have no idea how to explain this sudden burst of gains on all my lifts except for maybe a better mental state and higher focus, was wondering if theres any studies on mental state and lifting?

i just cant understand how 67.5kg bench felt like moving the world and now 72.5kg feels like im lifting feathers
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Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
July 06 2011 12:59 GMT
#8378
Anybody have experiences improving their flexibility? I'm doing badminton and yoga currently, and I could really use some more flexible muscles and tendons for both. Damn I can't even touch my toes with my legs straight, and my GF could reach the ground with her palms :O
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
July 06 2011 13:00 GMT
#8379
On July 06 2011 21:59 Ravencruiser wrote:
Anybody have experiences improving their flexibility? I'm doing badminton and yoga currently, and I could really use some more flexible muscles and tendons for both. Damn I can't even touch my toes with my legs straight, and my GF could reach the ground with her palms :O


http://www.mobilitywod.com/ !
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 13:57:02
July 06 2011 13:56 GMT
#8380
On July 06 2011 21:51 Snapplecakes wrote:
i have a question..

is there something you could call a "mental plateu" when it comes to lifting?

ive been cutting pretty hard the last 6 weeks while maintaining my lifts and increasing my deadlift and dips gradually but had a full stop on the other lifts (alot of excess body fat btw)

however the last 2 weeks ive seen some insanely solid gains, 5 kgs on my bench, 10 kg on my squats, went from 4 chinups x 3 to 8-8-8 and my weighted dips are now at +15kg.. i have no idea how to explain this sudden burst of gains on all my lifts except for maybe a better mental state and higher focus, was wondering if theres any studies on mental state and lifting?

i just cant understand how 67.5kg bench felt like moving the world and now 72.5kg feels like im lifting feathers


you are doing leanGAINS, right?
in all honesty though, if you are making progress while on a serious cut then your lifts werent near your maximum when you started or you were really quite fat and could therefore lose fat while gaining muscle more easily. of course the mental aspect always plays a big part in lifting. confidence is all!

either way, good job man and keep believing in yourself!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
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