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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#6041
On May 26 2011 05:24 shinosai wrote:
Joining a real gym isn't really an option until September because I'm moving. And most gyms around here require a membership from anywhere from 9 to 12 months. So I have to work with what I have. And given what I have I was wondering what the best work out would be.

Also, I'll keep in mind what you said about cheerios being bad, making eggs doesn't sound like a bad idea. No time for cooking bacon, though. Also not sure how turkey sandwich and salad isn't real food. Sure I might add some condiments but I don't feel like this is much of a big deal, the majority of it is real food.


Just a tip that might help you out with the gyms. Most ones here have a policy that if you are moving you can get out of your membership. I'm actually using the same thing (guy from the gym even suggested it) to work out for 3 months during the summer close to my parents home. I signed up with my parents adress and I just gotta get proof that I'm officially living somewhere else to cancel the subscription.
I would check the rules of some gyms close by because a proper gym is really important.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 25 2011 22:50 GMT
#6042
On May 26 2011 05:24 shinosai wrote:
Joining a real gym isn't really an option until September because I'm moving. And most gyms around here require a membership from anywhere from 9 to 12 months. So I have to work with what I have. And given what I have I was wondering what the best work out would be.

Also, I'll keep in mind what you said about cheerios being bad, making eggs doesn't sound like a bad idea. No time for cooking bacon, though. Also not sure how turkey sandwich and salad isn't real food. Sure I might add some condiments but I don't feel like this is much of a big deal, the majority of it is real food.

re: "Real food"
http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2008/6/4/nutrition-101-the-one-rule-to-remember/

It's a little extreme, but you get the idea.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 22:54:37
May 25 2011 22:54 GMT
#6043
On May 26 2011 07:33 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 05:24 shinosai wrote:
Joining a real gym isn't really an option until September because I'm moving. And most gyms around here require a membership from anywhere from 9 to 12 months. So I have to work with what I have. And given what I have I was wondering what the best work out would be.

Also, I'll keep in mind what you said about cheerios being bad, making eggs doesn't sound like a bad idea. No time for cooking bacon, though. Also not sure how turkey sandwich and salad isn't real food. Sure I might add some condiments but I don't feel like this is much of a big deal, the majority of it is real food.


Just a tip that might help you out with the gyms. Most ones here have a policy that if you are moving you can get out of your membership. I'm actually using the same thing (guy from the gym even suggested it) to work out for 3 months during the summer close to my parents home. I signed up with my parents adress and I just gotta get proof that I'm officially living somewhere else to cancel the subscription.
I would check the rules of some gyms close by because a proper gym is really important.


That's actually a really good idea. I'll go visit them tomorrow and see what they say if I tell them I'm moving. Thanks for the advice, maybe I can do starting strength after all!
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 25 2011 23:04 GMT
#6044
that link lead me to find this comment:
i am a turtutalian; and i manage a vigour diet and excersize plan. turtles give me life. i also enjoy their texture; the the shells make great guitar pics.
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xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
May 25 2011 23:14 GMT
#6045
On May 26 2011 07:05 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 06:35 xJupiter9x wrote:
On May 26 2011 06:26 Slithe wrote:
if you try to breathe out of the one nostril by closing the other one, then what happens? Is it just completely closed off?

If I do that, i can breathe out, but a very minimal amount of air actually comes out. Like if i took a deep breath and tried to exhale that way it would take like 30-40 seconds to exhale from that nostril. Its weird. I have never had any problems breathing or anything. when i was doing cross country in high school i was doing my 3 mile in 16 minutes. I just thought it was weird that i only use 1 nostril.


Is it always the same nostril for a long time?
If it switches, I think it's no big deal. I recall reading somewhere that a lot of people breathe primarily out of one nostril, and it switches from left to right and vice versa in a cycle.

Yeah that is exactly what it does.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
May 25 2011 23:47 GMT
#6046
Today's workout

high bar squats: 80kg x 5, 100kg x 5 and 120kg x 5
deadlift: 100kg x 8, 120kg x 6, 140kg x 5, 160kg x 5 and 170kg x 5
reverse hypers: 20kg x 12, 30kg x 12 and 40kg x 12
some rowing
pullups
rear delts
weighted planks

Last time I do the high bar squatting, uncomfortable as hell. Reverse hypers were really nice and doing minute long planks with 5 and 10kg on my lower back was a nice challenge.

Meet is going to be on June 19th. Gogo 6kg more for 100kg bodyweight. And I don't look at all like someone that is 200lbs ++ @ 15% bf...it's quite funny really.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
May 26 2011 00:02 GMT
#6047
On May 26 2011 08:14 xJupiter9x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 07:05 JeeJee wrote:
On May 26 2011 06:35 xJupiter9x wrote:
On May 26 2011 06:26 Slithe wrote:
if you try to breathe out of the one nostril by closing the other one, then what happens? Is it just completely closed off?

If I do that, i can breathe out, but a very minimal amount of air actually comes out. Like if i took a deep breath and tried to exhale that way it would take like 30-40 seconds to exhale from that nostril. Its weird. I have never had any problems breathing or anything. when i was doing cross country in high school i was doing my 3 mile in 16 minutes. I just thought it was weird that i only use 1 nostril.


Is it always the same nostril for a long time?
If it switches, I think it's no big deal. I recall reading somewhere that a lot of people breathe primarily out of one nostril, and it switches from left to right and vice versa in a cycle.

Yeah that is exactly what it does.

I wouldn't worry about it too much then. It happens to me to and I find it's due to which side I have my head tilted when sleeping. My head was to the left last night so I find I can breathe a lot more out of my right nostril today.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 26 2011 00:42 GMT
#6048
On May 26 2011 06:38 FFGenerations wrote:
when i try normal/close-grip lat pulldowns (side grip or pullup grip),

i get a inexplicable, sharp-as-fuck pain that spasms through my RIGHT anterior/ventral forearm

it causes me to immediately stop the pull. it feels almost like an electric shock and causes me to say "fuck, what the hell was that?!" and then slap my forearm a few times like its been a naughty boy

ive only been doing wide-grip chinup lat pulldowns in the past and havent had the problem with those

well heres a picture of the area. idk if its nerve damage or something weird like that. i havent had any injury as far as i know

my left forearm is completely fine with 50kg lat pulldowns (pullup grip/close grip), but the right one will have this spasm unless i go down to like 35kg, and even then i am fearful it will suddenly happen

*pic*

[image loading]

i cant pinpoint exactly where the pain occurs but its round there :/
the pain vanishes instantly


I get a similar pain in my left arm at the same place when doing chinups/pullups. I'm guessing you're left-handed? I just try to manup and blow through it. If it keeps coming back I say, "fuck it i'm done with chinups/pullups for the now".

PS: why are you doing lat pulldowns? Do pullups bro!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 01:07:32
May 26 2011 00:53 GMT
#6049
im right handed :o
its not something i can push thru probably, its like a massive sudden localised spasm of pain like an electric shock
i was doing lat pulldowns coz i wanted to do chinups but couldnt do a single one and reverses were overload. then i saw this masssive guy doing super wide grip ones so i just copied him without thinking.
i will do pullups mostly from now on coz i think my lats have had enough isolation training for the time being lol!
except i cant with this problem >>
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 01:26:15
May 26 2011 01:15 GMT
#6050
On May 26 2011 06:38 FFGenerations wrote:
when i try normal/close-grip lat pulldowns (side grip or pullup grip),

i get a inexplicable, sharp-as-fuck pain that spasms through my RIGHT anterior/ventral forearm

it causes me to immediately stop the pull. it feels almost like an electric shock and causes me to say "fuck, what the hell was that?!" and then slap my forearm a few times like its been a naughty boy

ive only been doing wide-grip chinup lat pulldowns in the past and havent had the problem with those

well heres a picture of the area. idk if its nerve damage or something weird like that. i havent had any injury as far as i know

my left forearm is completely fine with 50kg lat pulldowns (pullup grip/close grip), but the right one will have this spasm unless i go down to like 35kg, and even then i am fearful it will suddenly happen

*pic*

[image loading]

i cant pinpoint exactly where the pain occurs but its round there :/
the pain vanishes instantly


Seems like an overtight pronator teres or flexor carpi radialis perhaps.

Do some massage to the area and see if you feel a super tight muscle or anything. Massage, heat, and some stretching.

I think pronator teres is most likely since in some people the median nerve runs through it and when it is compressed it may give some radiating pain down into the hand.

re: pronator teres syndrome

[image loading]

Pain is in the pink distribution on the right side picture down into the wrist if it extends that far.

X is the trigger point you can massage/put pressure on to release muscle. But overall massage the whole thing
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 26 2011 01:40 GMT
#6051
interesting where that X is location:
FFGenerations May 15 2011 22:07. Posts 253 PM Profile Blog Quote Edit #
i tried a pullup the other day, overstrained trying to do the first one. a small circle of blood appeared sometime after in the middle of the middle crease in my arm (the bit opposite the elbow). i thought it was a spot at first, but it doesnt look like one (hair folical is there which makes it confusin) and doesnt really feel like one but still hurt when pressed. did i like burst a blood vessal?
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 26 2011 01:49 GMT
#6052
Yeah, you could have the same thing

Does it go away if you do chinups instead of pullups?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 26 2011 02:07 GMT
#6053
me, when doing wide grip chinups (lat pulldown) ive never had a peek of a problem. as for closer-grip chinups (regular) im not sure but i think no problem. i will massage it and pray
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
May 26 2011 03:40 GMT
#6054
Ok so I'm probably going to have to get to a gym faster than I thought. With no rack my squat is limited to what I can power clean and then press over my head. It won't be long before that is a limitation. Any tips on squatting sans rack?

I have a bench, but the way the rack is connected makes it extremely awkward to pick it up from standing, and I'd rather just get a gym membership than risk whatever crazy injuries I could get from falling backwards over my bench or something.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 26 2011 03:58 GMT
#6055
Bench press is killing me. Barely made it this week >.>

Everything else continued on track.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNskixPW9hQdE9PX0ZSZFRJZUJBRHRQUzZHT3NwMmc&hl=en_US&authkey=COC5sqwI
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 04:20:27
May 26 2011 04:20 GMT
#6056
On May 26 2011 12:58 Froadac wrote:
Bench press is killing me. Barely made it this week >.>

Everything else continued on track.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNskixPW9hQdE9PX0ZSZFRJZUJBRHRQUzZHT3NwMmc&hl=en_US&authkey=COC5sqwI


Yeah, definitely up your DL by 10-15 lbs each week especially if i was easy like the last few times.

Generally, deadlift numbers will be higher than squat numbers! The fact that your squat is outgaining your DL now means you're probably strong enough to make a couple 15 lbs jumps 'specially if it has been feeling really easy recently
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 26 2011 04:33 GMT
#6057
On May 26 2011 13:20 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 12:58 Froadac wrote:
Bench press is killing me. Barely made it this week >.>

Everything else continued on track.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNskixPW9hQdE9PX0ZSZFRJZUJBRHRQUzZHT3NwMmc&hl=en_US&authkey=COC5sqwI


Yeah, definitely up your DL by 10-15 lbs each week especially if i was easy like the last few times.

Generally, deadlift numbers will be higher than squat numbers! The fact that your squat is outgaining your DL now means you're probably strong enough to make a couple 15 lbs jumps 'specially if it has been feeling really easy recently

Yeah, I know. It'll catch up. I'll jump 15 pounds next time around.

Any advice for upper body stuff, or can gains be expected to be slower there?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 26 2011 06:22 GMT
#6058
i'm at a crossroads: either start cutting a bit or keep bulking and buy a new wardrobe. pants and shirts are reeeeally tight.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 26 2011 06:34 GMT
#6059
On May 26 2011 15:22 Zafrumi wrote:
i'm at a crossroads: either start cutting a bit or keep bulking and buy a new wardrobe. pants and shirts are reeeeally tight.


Just don't wear clothes. Bam I just solved all your problems.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
May 26 2011 06:34 GMT
#6060
Destroy old wardrobe by hulking out in public, acquire new wardrobe through violence.
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