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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 12 2010 03:45 GMT
#61
Any good instructional stuff online for new players who are learning how to play? I have a group of friends from church who are interested in learning, ranging from "how to throw the disk straight" to "how to make plays"
rockslave
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Brazil318 Posts
April 27 2010 03:33 GMT
#62
Woot! I love this game and I love the Ultimate envirnoment. Maybe I'll change my signature to my staple line when playing: "NO BREAK!" =)

I agree with most objections when it comes to quality as a spectator sport, but I don't care, I just want to play =P. I guess as the sport grows this is going to get better relatively fast =D.

And I'm a fundamentalist when it comes to throws. I don't even teach hammers to my newbies because I know they will want to throw it every single time and hammers are really just for some very specific occasions (hitting that lone guy on the break side far away).
What qxc said.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
April 27 2010 05:13 GMT
#63
On March 06 2010 02:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:
the best amateurs of football/basketball/track blow away pro ultimate players


Not necessarily true. Each sport favors a particular model of fitness. You get hit harder in football and do a lot of shoving, so high body mass is favorable. Long distance runners want a strong but lean physique. Basketball requires (among other things) stronger hand-eye coordination than football or running. Soccer requires a level of foot dexterity that takes years to learn, let alone perfect.

Ultimate takes significant hand dexterity to master, and not all players throw well enough to be handlers. Beyond throwing precisely, learning to reliably compensate for wind and opponents is not something you can pick up in an afternoon.

As for physical fitness, it is true that most fans of Ultimate are not professional athletes and therefore may not maintain the highest level of fitness year-round. I will concede that professional athletes in more established (read: profitable) sports are far more competitive and have pushed their bodies farther, but these skills are molded for only one class of sports and do not translate to an easy win in another.

No doubt if you've watched amateur games, you have noticed that discrepancies in skill are everywhere. The runner with more endurance will always complete a play because his man couldn't keep up. However, the team with better tactics and coordination will throw circles around an inexperienced team, despite inferior physiques.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
April 27 2010 05:25 GMT
#64
On April 12 2010 12:45 nosliw wrote:
Any good instructional stuff online for new players who are learning how to play? I have a group of friends from church who are interested in learning, ranging from "how to throw the disk straight" to "how to make plays"


Head over to youtube, see how to hold the disc and throw. Read up on the basic rules of gameplay (there are very few, it's so easy). Wikipedia, UPA, Google, etc.

Don't worry about formations until you've got serious matches to play. As an analogy, if you were starting BW, I'd tell you to learn the tech tree, learn to micro/macro, and beat the CPU reliably before even learning a build order.

Buy a good disc, don't even try to learn how to throw with an inferior disc. Your local sports store might not have good options. I'm sure you can find one online, but if you do go to a store, the "Life is Good" brand makes a decent starter disc for around $15.

Get your friends together and just practice throwing. Practice forehand (flick) and backhand equivalently and when you have enough people for a game, have some fun.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-27 06:18:04
April 27 2010 06:14 GMT
#65
Ultimate is spectacularly bomb. I played for a year in HS and ran a pretty horrendous team in college for my stay there. I played a summer league here in Denver for two seasons and attended a training camp at CU. The game is easily the most exciting sport I've watched. The speed and decision making is phenomenal, even at lower levels, and the athleticism and strategic play of good teams is out of this world. There is also the emphasis on spirit and the self-officiating nature, which really gives the game a dignity that is absent in most other sports without diminishing its competitive nature.

Since I graduated last year I haven't played much at all. I enjoyed tearing it up at our HS alumni game during the summer, but my broken cleats haven't been replaced and my contact lens prescription hasn't been updated. I do intend to pick up club ultimate at some point in the future though. It's a game I really love. I still throw a lot to keep capable if not polished (though after playing for years throwing is second nature).

As to the fitness of ultimate players, at least at the college level, they are at least as committed to staying in peak shape as any other athletes. Good ultimate players have lots of skills that are important to the game, but to be a great player you need superior speed and endurance. Claiming that ultimate players are less athletic than other athletes is malarkey. Also, this issue is largely moot because it was raised in the context of "pro" players, which (if you mean they make any substantial amount of money) don't exist afaik.

On April 12 2010 12:45 nosliw wrote:
Any good instructional stuff online for new players who are learning how to play? I have a group of friends from church who are interested in learning, ranging from "how to throw the disk straight" to "how to make plays"

If you live in an city in the US there will almost certainly be pickup games at least once a week. Check out groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.disc and upa.org for info and resources.
lagmaster
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States374 Posts
April 27 2010 06:34 GMT
#66
Does anyone play for any noteworthy highschool/college/club teams? I saw a carleton guy and a Jojah guy. Anyone else? Any Revolver, Sockeye personnel out there?

I've played for LPC (college), YR (club open) and am currently playing for the Polar Bears (mixed).
Waffles
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Romania605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-27 06:52:19
April 27 2010 06:50 GMT
#67
On April 27 2010 15:34 lagmaster wrote:
Does anyone play for any noteworthy highschool/college/club teams? I saw a carleton guy and a Jojah guy. Anyone else? Any Revolver, Sockeye personnel out there?

I've played for LPC (college), YR (club open) and am currently playing for the Polar Bears (mixed).

i saw revolver/fury play vs coaches at California states last week.mother fucker threw a 40 yard thumber. wtf.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 27 2010 06:53 GMT
#68
On April 12 2010 12:45 nosliw wrote:
Any good instructional stuff online for new players who are learning how to play? I have a group of friends from church who are interested in learning, ranging from "how to throw the disk straight" to "how to make plays"


Unfortunately, I've never found anything instructional online to be as useful as repetition and muscle memory. Everyone says different things, there's different grips, the most universal and useful technical advice would be to keep your arm on a level plane.

Practicing backhands with your friends is a waste of time. The wide arc your arm takes is considerably restricted by someone defending the thrower, beginners tend to travel on backhands, if you have enough friends you're better off running the box drill.

Practicing forehands is fine since it feels unnatural, you need to build up some tendon strength to keep it stable, and it takes awhile to get a feel for it (otherwise people could throw lefty with a little practice). Just remember to establish your pivot foot.

Making plays, learn a stack offense, run open space/directly to/away from the disc, keep your body in between your defender and the disc.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 00:17:33
September 17 2010 00:11 GMT
#69
Another semester, another season! Anyone going to be at Exit 69 in a couple weeks?
Any new ultimate players out there?

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SChasu
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1505 Posts
September 17 2010 00:19 GMT
#70
I love ultimate so much.

I sprained my ankle playing on tuesday
totalbiscuit is awful at casting.
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
September 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#71
I too love ultimate.

That gator looks like it has tile on its stomach.

I played so much in college. I've moved back home recently and I'm super bummed out because there is absolutely no ultimate around here. Or at least none that I know of.

Does anyone know a good website that lists local pickup games? I desperately want to play again.
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
StuBob
Profile Joined March 2010
United States373 Posts
September 17 2010 02:31 GMT
#72
I <3 Ultimate!
I play RANDOM!
DuneBug
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
September 17 2010 05:48 GMT
#73
Ultimate!
love it.

I used to play soccer, but i enjoy ultimate much more. More scoring, less hogging, but the points stilll feel liek they matter, unlike say... basketball.

There's a lot of resources online but frankly the best way to get a little good at ultimate is just to practice your forehand throws while tossing a disc with a buddy.
TIME TO SAY GOODNIGHT BRO!
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
September 17 2010 06:13 GMT
#74
This is a good resource I just learned about. It's helpful if you're visiting some city (mostly in the U.S.) and just hoping to find a game.

http://pickupultimate.com/

I personally play pickup in San Diego (2 games a week during the summer.)
IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
September 17 2010 06:28 GMT
#75
Great thread, I didnt even know it existed. I myself am a Frisbee Golf player and it is pretty damn awesome. I play atleast 3-4 days a week!
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
September 17 2010 06:47 GMT
#76
Gahh I love ultimate! My friends and I play frequently!
since 98'
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
September 17 2010 08:07 GMT
#77
On September 17 2010 09:19 SS-guy wrote:
I love ultimate so much.

I sprained my ankle playing on tuesday


Dude wtf are you me? I sprained my ankle on wednesday ((((

Out for at least two weeks, probably longer. Just started playing in a second league too... I only started at the start of this year and it's my second semester playing but my throwing has improved sooooooooo much. All about time on the disc, the more often you play handler the better your throws become. I'm still a pretty bad cutter though, just can't seem to get open
u gotta sk8
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
September 17 2010 19:34 GMT
#78
On September 17 2010 15:13 Random_0 wrote:
This is a good resource I just learned about. It's helpful if you're visiting some city (mostly in the U.S.) and just hoping to find a game.

http://pickupultimate.com/

I personally play pickup in San Diego (2 games a week during the summer.)


Holy crap that is awesome. There is a lunchtime league 3 days a week like 5 minutes from my office. I wonder how my coworkers will feel about me comming back sweaty and disgusting
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 02 2010 01:43 GMT
#79
Going to be at Exit 69 in at Carleton this weekend. Any one else from the area going to Northfield?
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
October 02 2010 02:37 GMT
#80
i love ulti

played alot in highschool with the cross country team :D
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