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Tsavong
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 01:59:07
August 02 2011 01:58 GMT
#21
I work for an indie dev, so I know how hard it is to get a product moving. I'll pitch in my 99c.

There's a strange psychological barrier between "free" and "99c" but they're essentially the same in the long run.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 02 2011 03:57 GMT
#22
i want a smartphone now T.T
shinkuu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5 Posts
August 02 2011 05:58 GMT
#23
How about free with ads?
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
August 02 2011 06:26 GMT
#24
The amount of people asking for this to be free is hilarious. Do you know how pathetic you sound?

You won't pay 99c to support an indie developer who has made a pretty nifty app? If you can afford SC2 and a computer on which to play it, you can afford 99c to support them.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 06:44:35
August 02 2011 06:39 GMT
#25
On August 02 2011 15:26 Dhalphir wrote:
The amount of people asking for this to be free is hilarious. Do you know how pathetic you sound?

You won't pay 99c to support an indie developer who has made a pretty nifty app? If you can afford SC2 and a computer on which to play it, you can afford 99c to support them.


The demographic being targeted (by posting on TL) is intelligent, active/savvy computer users. If they aim to give tips (created by common players, to common players) they shouldn't really expect money. Sure its 99 cents, but people could easily watch Day9, read the tip thread, or watch the MILLIONS (atleast) of the education/tutorial YouTube or other videos.

Sure they're an independent group, but that doesn't mean they deserve charity anymore than the millions of people who made free apps/games/supply TL with great/amazing/etc content. Not to mention I can't associate this app or this TL user with anyone who I deem worthy of a donation.

Sorry, but not my cup of tea.

Edit: I may have come off a bit harsh, I meant to be more targeted at "it's just 99c" than to the OP.
mofoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 07:34:06
August 02 2011 07:33 GMT
#26
0.99 is like nothing! Instabuy! First 2 zerg tips worth it for me, great info Thx for making app! It is a small shortcut for me to improve my gaming,

Ipad version w high res pictures would be nice.
SC2 will change my life!
SC2Tips
Profile Joined July 2011
United States115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 09:27:34
August 02 2011 08:16 GMT
#27
On August 02 2011 15:39 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 15:26 Dhalphir wrote:
The amount of people asking for this to be free is hilarious. Do you know how pathetic you sound?

You won't pay 99c to support an indie developer who has made a pretty nifty app? If you can afford SC2 and a computer on which to play it, you can afford 99c to support them.


The demographic being targeted (by posting on TL) is intelligent, active/savvy computer users. If they aim to give tips (created by common players, to common players) they shouldn't really expect money. Sure its 99 cents, but people could easily watch Day9, read the tip thread, or watch the MILLIONS (atleast) of the education/tutorial YouTube or other videos.

Sure they're an independent group, but that doesn't mean they deserve charity anymore than the millions of people who made free apps/games/supply TL with great/amazing/etc content. Not to mention I can't associate this app or this TL user with anyone who I deem worthy of a donation.

Sorry, but not my cup of tea.

Edit: I may have come off a bit harsh, I meant to be more targeted at "it's just 99c" than to the OP.


Thanks for your feedback Sprungjeezy. Although I understand where you're coming from, I must make a few points to defend our position.

Yes, there are free resources (Day9, Liquipedia, tip thread, YouTube tutorials) that provide information contained in the tips app. However, the amount of information is very vast and distributed. We'd imagine many users do not have the time or the energy to go through all the material and extract out the useful information. What we provide in SC2 Tips is a compact app that contains the most useful and up to date tips. SC2 Tips offers the user the choice of spending a little money ($0.99) to save a lot of time in obtaining useful game knowledge.

We are not asking for donations. We've honestly spent a great deal of time creating this app, both from the development and data gathering point of view. It takes a lot of time to sort through the vast amount of resources, filter out the good tips, verify the accuracy, and finally take the proper execution screenshot. Of course, it also takes a lot of time to design, develop and test the actual app. We feel that we've created something that has value to our customers.

Would you have had the same reaction if we made the app free?

The natural followup question would be, why didn't we make the app free? Are we talented indie developers who know nothing about Starcraft, and simply create one-shot apps to make a quick profit off the community? Are we going to advertise the app, sell as many copies as possible, and then disappear never to update the app again? Are we trying to get rich off of TL users?

The answer to all of the above questions is no. Although we realize the community would have had a much better reaction if we made the app completely free, we simply cannot afford to do this. We've both turned down attractive job offers from large software companies to work on SC2 related apps full time. We did it because we love Starcraft and want to work on Starcraft related projects as our careers. To do this, we need some community support as we still need to pay rent and living expenses. If our goal was to get rich as developers, would we not target the general audience with a game similar to Angry Birds, Doodle Jump, or Tiny Wings? Why would we greatly limit ourselves by only targeting the Starcraft community?

Starcraft means more to us than just a game and a medium to make profits. We both grew up playing, watching and discussing Starcraft on a daily basis. I have personally been following TeamLiquid since broodwar.com went down. Although I've never been a prominent posting member, I've followed all the stories throughout the years. From the foreigners (eVERLAST, Grrrr, Asmodey, Elky, Smuft, Nazgul, Assem, Draco, Nony, Idra, ret) going to Korea, to the incredible memories left by WCG (Boxer vs DiDi, Blackman, and Android!), to the unforgettable matches between Nazgul vs NTT and Slayers_'Boxer' vs Slayer, to the rise and fall of the Gamei, PGTour and ICCup servers, to the domination by each of the bonjwas, and finally to the current scene with Proleague and S-class player like Flash/Jaedong/Bisu/Stork. Of course, that's only my personal SC1 history. I've followed the SC2 scene with equal fervor, playing and following the game from its beta stages (I'm still sad that roaches cost 2 supplies now) to its current scene with Nestea, MC and MVP being at the top of their respective races. We've both stayed up countless nights watching GSL, and even as I type this reply, my partner is watching Code A qualifiers. In fact, we have watched almost every single GSL match broadcasted by GomTV, even if that meant staying up until 6 am in the morning and having class the next day. I didn't want to make this post personal, but I really wanted to show you that we're both very passionate about the community and Starcraft.

And as for the app, you can be sure that we'll keep it up to date based on the latest patches. We'll add new tips with each update, and will continue to bring you the latest and best tips from the community. We'll also be incorporating in Heart of the Swarm tips into this app once the expansion becomes available at no additional charge. Our goal is to create a single resource for useful SC2 game tips, enhanced by eye pleasing in-game screen shots. We are not here to simply make a quick profit off the community. We want to give back, but we also need community support so we can continue to bring you great SC2 related apps.

We have other great projects in the pipeline, including but not limited to SC2 and Diablo 3.
“Defeat is not the worst of failures, not to have tried is the true failure.”
SC2Tips
Profile Joined July 2011
United States115 Posts
August 02 2011 08:17 GMT
#28
On August 02 2011 16:33 mofoo wrote:
0.99 is like nothing! Instabuy! First 2 zerg tips worth it for me, great info Thx for making app! It is a small shortcut for me to improve my gaming,

Ipad version w high res pictures would be nice.


Thanks for your suggestion mofoo. We have all the original source images for the screenshots and will create a native iPad version in the near future!
“Defeat is not the worst of failures, not to have tried is the true failure.”
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
August 02 2011 09:12 GMT
#29
On August 02 2011 07:57 Bourne wrote:
I agree with the comments above, unfortunately i think it would be better use as a free app because i couldnt justify the price over something which i could go to the 1000 tips thread and see for myself. And as said above, patch notes and without people being able to trust in you updating it



It's .99 man.. Hell that's worth just having something else thats SC2 related to look at while you are on the bus or at the doctor's office imo, but to each their own.
We march to victory!
Widunder
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden23 Posts
August 02 2011 09:36 GMT
#30
This is awesome! Of course I want to support this. Insta-buy! :D. Keep up the good work!
Tnerb
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
August 02 2011 11:17 GMT
#31
On August 02 2011 10:52 SC2Tips wrote:
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On August 02 2011 10:23 HKGxPython wrote:
This is a great idea, I would definitely buy this app if it was available for Android, I hope you guys are able to expand to there one day. =)


Replies like these will definitely help in getting an Android version. If a lot of people ask for it, we'll put off work on our next app and focus on getting an Android version of SC2 Tips out ASAP.

in that case here is my reply as a android user would would like this app :D
cronney
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway5 Posts
August 02 2011 13:04 GMT
#32
On August 02 2011 20:17 Brent352 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 10:52 SC2Tips wrote:
On August 02 2011 10:23 HKGxPython wrote:
This is a great idea, I would definitely buy this app if it was available for Android, I hope you guys are able to expand to there one day. =)


Replies like these will definitely help in getting an Android version. If a lot of people ask for it, we'll put off work on our next app and focus on getting an Android version of SC2 Tips out ASAP.

in that case here is my reply as a android user would would like this app :D


This. And I also reply for some friends of mine who have Android and love Starcraft
Sc2 viking!
DeSam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium84 Posts
August 02 2011 13:57 GMT
#33
can i buy it for my PC? (i dont have any expensive phone or ipad or w/e....)
pampelmus
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Switzerland215 Posts
August 02 2011 14:21 GMT
#34
Android version wanted!

This would be really nice on my Galaxy S II
Gollomor
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria51 Posts
August 02 2011 15:14 GMT
#35
very very nice XD but damned i have to buy an itunes card ^^
We are the Blades of Aiur
FoeHamr
Profile Joined December 2010
United States489 Posts
August 02 2011 15:20 GMT
#36
Merging dark templars remain invisible? Mind=Blown

Good job with the app.
DeSam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium84 Posts
August 02 2011 15:39 GMT
#37
yeh i really want this app... but i dont have any of those expensive equipment.. could you make a PC version aswell?
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 18:09:26
August 02 2011 16:26 GMT
#38
On August 02 2011 15:39 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 15:26 Dhalphir wrote:
The amount of people asking for this to be free is hilarious. Do you know how pathetic you sound?

You won't pay 99c to support an indie developer who has made a pretty nifty app? If you can afford SC2 and a computer on which to play it, you can afford 99c to support them.


The demographic being targeted (by posting on TL) is intelligent, active/savvy computer users. If they aim to give tips (created by common players, to common players) they shouldn't really expect money. Sure its 99 cents, but people could easily watch Day9, read the tip thread, or watch the MILLIONS (atleast) of the education/tutorial YouTube or other videos.

Sure they're an independent group, but that doesn't mean they deserve charity anymore than the millions of people who made free apps/games/supply TL with great/amazing/etc content. Not to mention I can't associate this app or this TL user with anyone who I deem worthy of a donation.

Sorry, but not my cup of tea.

Edit: I may have come off a bit harsh, I meant to be more targeted at "it's just 99c" than to the OP.

totally agree with you. I don't even see why this app is worth any money
Click spoiler to read the rest + Show Spoiler +

Actually such things should be implemented IN sc2 while you load a game like in HoN and several other games.
Imo this is just another rip-off and if i had time I would really like to look into the app to see which info's it sends to their servers which you dont want to be sent.
The only thing why Apps are so "good" because it's software which runs locally and can send from your device with a wider range of protocolls than "just" http like in teh normal interwebz.

I really really dont get it why you even want to buy it.
Not to bash those guys who made it but its such a simple piece of software ......... in the good ol' days where we didnt know the term "app" (maybe just as a shortform of application) you would never ever had given them money for about 50 lines of code
To everyone who is raging now: Would you guys even consider wasting 0,99cent if this were a mere auto-updating txt-file with links to the actual screenshots? Because ... actually ... it is nothing more.
Btw must be really hard to port it to android or anything else with all those fancy stuff which is hard to code

Edit: I may have come off a bit harsh, I meant to be.


Edit2: Without any trolling, bashing or harassing: did you guys acquired a licensce from blizzard? and if so; were they cooperative or was it hard to get?

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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
August 02 2011 16:53 GMT
#39
If I had a fancy phone I would definitely buy this. Can't go wrong for 99 cents.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 02 2011 17:04 GMT
#40
Android please... Would love to see some of these tips come to my droid soon!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
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