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ErikaMitchell
Profile Joined June 2011
United States25 Posts
June 23 2011 20:02 GMT
#201
On June 24 2011 04:43 KeksX wrote:
Even though it's now smaller, the OP is way better now.
Great reaction! That alone will make the decision easier



Thanks! I tried to take my cue from the posts here
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
June 23 2011 21:16 GMT
#202
On June 24 2011 05:02 ErikaMitchell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 04:43 KeksX wrote:
Even though it's now smaller, the OP is way better now.
Great reaction! That alone will make the decision easier



Thanks! I tried to take my cue from the posts here


Now where are the links to Amazon etc.?
ErikaMitchell
Profile Joined June 2011
United States25 Posts
June 23 2011 22:13 GMT
#203
Now where are the links to Amazon etc.?


FTFY.

PWNED is available for purchase from Amazon (TL Referral Link!) and Barnes & Noble as an e-book, with additional e-book outlets like iTunes coming soon.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
June 23 2011 22:29 GMT
#204
You seriously edited the OP to basically say "Buy my book, ESPORTTSS"? People should buy a book if it is good, not because it supports a cause.
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 22:54:09
June 23 2011 22:53 GMT
#205
On June 22 2011 04:26 ErikaMitchell wrote:

Why should I buy this book?
Three things come to mind:

  • It's a good way to help promote eSports




Excuse me if this seems like I'm heckling, but can you please explain how this works?
Moderator@SirJolt
ErikaMitchell
Profile Joined June 2011
United States25 Posts
June 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#206
Excuse me if this seems like I'm heckling, but can you please explain how this works?


No problem.

I'm not gonna promote eSports with the Team Liquid crowd, y'all are obviously fans of eSports.

However, so far %75 of sales have come from sites outside of the eSports community (Good Reads, etc...)

Most of these people have no idea that there is such a thing as a professional gamer. This is my target audience, people (who like myself 8 months ago) had no idea that eSports was a thing, that some dude in Korea just picked up 100k for winning a video game tournament.

The feedback from that end has been great so far. I won't reveal sales info, but I can tell you we've exposed a lot of people in 2.5 days to eSports and I feel good about that.
bulldyke
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia28 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 00:06:17
June 23 2011 23:49 GMT
#207
female + bad writing + appealing badly to a nerdy niche dominated by men = female with the cluster b narcissistic disorder; characterized by low self esteem but conflicting excessive egocentrism and little empathy, which motivates bursts of intensive study on a male's priority interest, in order to gain an esteem boost from being seen as better or equal than men in that field and as such perceives herself to be far ahead of other women on the desirable-o-meter. if you need more proof than this book, you can confirm this with just a few seconds of research on her person.

I wouldn't care so much about an author's motivations, but this distinct personality disorder often enrages me with their ego-blinded unperceptive attempts at things that their heart isn't in to begin with.


a paste about the disorder:

This personality disorder is characterized by feelings of envy, fragile self-esteem, and behavior that is often seeking approval or admiration. The person usually has little empathy (identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings or motives) [etc]

Symptoms:
Grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
Believes that they are "special" and unique and can only be understoody by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with their expectations.
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve their own needs.
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. [such as how this book is percieved by veterans of starcraft]

awaiting ban because no mod on tl.net likes an informative post. even when everyone here clearly needs to l2psychology.

User was banned for this post.
i'm just a regular junior shutterbug
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
June 24 2011 00:33 GMT
#208
On June 24 2011 08:49 bulldyke wrote:
female + bad writing + appealing badly to a nerdy niche dominated by men = female with the cluster b narcissistic disorder; characterized by low self esteem but conflicting excessive egocentrism and little empathy, which motivates bursts of intensive study on a male's priority interest, in order to gain an esteem boost from being seen as better or equal than men in that field and as such perceives herself to be far ahead of other women on the desirable-o-meter. if you need more proof than this book, you can confirm this with just a few seconds of research on her person.

I wouldn't care so much about an author's motivations, but this distinct personality disorder often enrages me with their ego-blinded unperceptive attempts at things that their heart isn't in to begin with.


a paste about the disorder:

This personality disorder is characterized by feelings of envy, fragile self-esteem, and behavior that is often seeking approval or admiration. The person usually has little empathy (identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings or motives) [etc]

Symptoms:
Grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
Believes that they are "special" and unique and can only be understoody by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with their expectations.
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve their own needs.
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. [such as how this book is percieved by veterans of starcraft]

awaiting ban because no mod on tl.net likes an informative post. even when everyone here clearly needs to l2psychology.


You're clearly new here + it looks like you have heard the term for this disorder before (perhaps a psychology 101 or bro-ology 101 class) and copypasted it so you could trollrage.
BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
June 24 2011 02:37 GMT
#209
Anything helping spread esports is a good thing. No idea why people are being so harah x.x
The OP looks much better now and really makes buying the book much more attractive.
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 24 2011 05:43 GMT
#210
Ender's Game will be untouched in terms of gaming perspective. But writing for ESPORTS is relatively untouched, yes.
Support your esport!
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
June 24 2011 19:56 GMT
#211
The sample chapters kind of read like a thesaurus, and I'm not really interested in the story itself, but since TL gets "a piece" of the sale and that's a nice gesture by you, I may throw $5 at it.

How much does TL get out of the sale, how much do you get, how much does Amazon take? In short, where would my money go?

Nothing personal, I'm sure you had a lot of fun writing the story and I'm not going to submit some long winded diatribe of a critical review, just wondering where my Lincoln will end up going.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 24 2011 22:09 GMT
#212
A vanity pub does not make you an author.
And Sean Boxer, really?
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
June 24 2011 23:02 GMT
#213
Too big of a closet nerd not to buy this.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
DarkenedLite
Profile Joined April 2011
United States188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 00:03:08
June 24 2011 23:59 GMT
#214
On June 24 2011 03:04 PantsB wrote:
I'm having trouble giving an honest response to this without coming off as a dick. Its not that the writing is terrible - there are published works with a similar level of prose. Its not that the concept is too pulpish or seems intended to capitalize on a particular sub-culture, as you can have a good book without great depth or breadth.

Its just that it comes across as... masturbatory. From the first chapter, the main character is a world class Starcraft II player (at least according to the plot summary), a famous novelist and turns down beautiful women as they throw themselves at him. All he needs is a huge dick, a degree from Harvard and MIT and billions of dollars from the inventions he designed while recovering from the wounds that earned him the Medal of Honor.

And "The professionally apathetic barista who slouched behind the register took his money before shuffling over to begin her alchemy on the beans and milk that were her ply and trade" or "People emerged from the void that existed behind his closed eyelids, their conflicts and characteristics wrapped around each of them like cauls" or "Her smooth face, faux-vintage clothes, and haphazardly knitted scarf broadcasted her age well enough that Sean felt confident it would be illegal to serve her alcohol".... that's not good writing, that's what people imagine good writing to be when they are not the ones being subjected to it.

Its like a singer who believes herself to be a diva doing runs and variations demonstrating her great vocal gifts when simply singing the song correctly would create a much better work. You don't have to show off.

Take: "He took atavistic pleasure in imagining her pouting toward his turned back as he left the coffee shop..." You better have a damn good reason for using a word like "atavistic" if you're going to do it. There's few worse habits a writer can fall into than trying to show of vocabulary and not using the word quite right. Perhaps the use was appropriate here... maybe you wanted to emphasize the protagonists sophistication by framing the appeal of the co-ed as primitive and beneath him. But there are enough other examples - "modulated", "defunct", "forthcoming" - of questionably used words that it becomes very distracting.

One more critique is the repetitive sentence construction. "Xing ----, he y'ed" was overused. Its especially questionable in a thriller - past is OK but you're getting into real passive territory here even when your verbs are actually pretty active.

"Turning around, he yanked on the cord that dangled from his window blinds, sending them shooting up to the top of the window in a screaming hurry. ...Grabbing a trashcan from the kitchen, he hefted its bulging bag out of it and replacing it with an empty one. Carrying the can over to his desk, he shot out his arm and swept everything but his laptop into the trash.... After shaking his head like a dog to rid his floppy hair of the rain, he shuffled to the counter and ordered....Sipping the hot coffee, he closed his eyes and slipped backward into the parallel universe he’d begun creating a week ago....She sat backward in her chair, facing him with her arms folded across the top of the backrest. ...She modulated the remainder of her response, striving for the happy medium....He glanced at his watch and leaned down to pack up his laptop, replying as he did,....Tipping her a wink, he said...caught up to him, looking ....lay back and closed his eyes he couldn’t stop his mind from racing through the night’s matches, replaying the mistakes..."


Agree wholeheartedly with all of this. Exactly the same feeling I got when I read this. You can't just put an overemphasis on descriptive words and not actually structure the sentences to run smoothly. Doing so even detracts from the already barely existent voice of the novel. There has to be a greater meaning behind these words. They have to speak to the mental state of the protagonist, his status in life. We want to feel like we are seeing the world through the eyes of the main character and puking out a diverse vocabulary just doesn't cut it.
You can only win the game when you understand that it is a game.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:06:45
June 25 2011 23:04 GMT
#215
On June 24 2011 08:49 bulldyke wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
female + bad writing + appealing badly to a nerdy niche dominated by men = female with the cluster b narcissistic disorder; characterized by low self esteem but conflicting excessive egocentrism and little empathy, which motivates bursts of intensive study on a male's priority interest, in order to gain an esteem boost from being seen as better or equal than men in that field and as such perceives herself to be far ahead of other women on the desirable-o-meter. if you need more proof than this book, you can confirm this with just a few seconds of research on her person.

I wouldn't care so much about an author's motivations, but this distinct personality disorder often enrages me with their ego-blinded unperceptive attempts at things that their heart isn't in to begin with.


a paste about the disorder:

This personality disorder is characterized by feelings of envy, fragile self-esteem, and behavior that is often seeking approval or admiration. The person usually has little empathy (identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings or motives) [etc]

Symptoms:
Grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
Believes that they are "special" and unique and can only be understoody by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with their expectations.
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve their own needs.
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. [such as how this book is percieved by veterans of starcraft]

awaiting ban because no mod on tl.net likes an informative post. even when everyone here clearly needs to l2psychology.


User was banned for this post.

Psych? How are you going to come assuming that people here need to l2psychology? Really? How do you know that there aren't posts made well before yours by people that know much more than you in the field? I've seen some pretty good critique here, and yours doesn't rank very highly. I imagine the poster probably thought the ban would make his post seem weighty and consequential, but everyone here knows that martyring yourself is a ban 100% of the time.

You don't have nearly enough information to make any kind of real diagnosis; you're guessing about a lot of stuff, and really making an overcomplicated diagnosis of a very simple situation. This book is obviously the bi-product of a relationship where one person is a "writer" and one is a fan of Starcraft. Write a book, has an audience, unique subject matter, even if poor in the details. You yourself are obviously looking to make up from some sort of feelings on inadequacy by trying to look smart, lashing out at admins and every other poster before you, for no reason. But no psychologist worth his weight in salt would try to make a real diagnosis based on your actions here. Such an obvious attempt to get attention and mix things up. The irony is hilarious.

This is a thread about a book. No need to come around martyring yourself, making little sense, and not even for a good cause. If you're gonna martyr yourself, do it somewhere useful like the Strategy sections with some serious balance whining.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
June 26 2011 04:06 GMT
#216
How are you going to make his name Boxer.... Anyhow, I'm sure he has a friend named Nick Garimto who casts with Dan SilentControl.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 04:11:12
June 26 2011 04:09 GMT
#217
On June 23 2011 03:44 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 02:14 Scouter wrote:

We actually set up the Amazon link with Team Liquid so they get money for each purchase



... amazing.

"Buy this book, cause it says Starcraft 2 and esports."

Which it looks like some people are willing to buy simply because of your gimmicks, but honestly it is kind of amazing that people are willing to exploit something they love.

Some people say this is promoting esports, I would love to hear how a terribly written, horrendously false, and incredibly misleading book about esports is "good for the scene."

(Honestly I don't see this doing anything to actually affect the scene as the only people who are going to buy it are the 4-5 people who just see "esports!!!!" and buy it simply for that. Anyone without those blinders on will not even make it past the preview pages.)

But at least you are smart enough to say now "Buy it for esports and buy it for team liquid!" increasing your gimmick level in hopes to trick people into buying this.




There's nothing like the internet to bring out the negativity that some people harbor inside them.

On another note, it's obvious that the majority of TLers criticizing the book are doing so because it doesn't appeal to them specifically even though it's about Starcraft 2. It's similar to the reason a lot of the more hardcore players don't like casters such as Total Biscuit - he doesn't know very much about the game and can get some things wrong. This author clearly doesn't know a whole lot about Starcraft and hasn't made her description of the players and competitive scene extremely accurate, which is not what a lot of TLers would be interested in. What you guys need to realize is that your bias against the book in this aspect doesn't automically mean that it is terrible in all respects.
Ket
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom124 Posts
June 26 2011 04:27 GMT
#218
Really tempted to buy this book, but for the wrong reasons just like rebecca black's friday gained massive popularity for the wrong reasons. Pretty cringeworthy sample of the first two chapters, but cringeworthy can be strangely enjoyable sometimes, like watching The Office (uk version)
wrekkless
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada87 Posts
June 26 2011 16:50 GMT
#219
I really wish that I had a credit card or paypal or something to buy this.
Knowledge is power, so use that Observer!
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
June 26 2011 17:57 GMT
#220
Is there by any chance I could read a small excerpt that could give me an idea if I would like this or not?
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