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On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this.
I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese
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On June 10 2015 04:31 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:27 mordek wrote:On June 10 2015 04:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:Whether you guys (or I) like it or not, y'all are my friends. Good to have the Lounge. In last night's downtime, I started drawing (and am very proud of myself for following through on the urge). I know lots of people have already seen it, but for those who haven't, this is the first thing in my sketchbook: + Show Spoiler + Yeah buddy. It can be really calming to sit and spend an hour or so drawing. Have some chillstep on in the background.  I need some reading recommendations for vacation. I've got a trilogy lined up but I may need more or just stuff for the near future to pick up. Anything goes that seems interesting, as long as it would be appropriate to discuss in this Lounge  What genre of books are you interested in? Also anyone have some resources for beginner drawing? I suck giant noodle but always wanted to try it out.
Like I said I'll read w/e as long as it's wholesome. I haven't read the Dresden Files and I just thought of that so I may have answered my own question for now but I'd keep a list.
Soniv, can you tell me what's special about those shorts? I'm interested. But not in your pair specifically.
Duolingo doesn't offer Cantonese but just noticed Irish is a course... is that like Gaellic or somethting? Teut?
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On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this.
Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker.
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On June 10 2015 04:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese
I checked out DuoLingo but it's mostly Euro languages
On June 10 2015 04:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker.
Written is one thing but vocal is another.
My hope is to not tell my fiance and then one day switch languages in the middle of a conversation and see what happens.
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On June 10 2015 04:47 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:31 Numy wrote:On June 10 2015 04:27 mordek wrote:On June 10 2015 04:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:Whether you guys (or I) like it or not, y'all are my friends. Good to have the Lounge. In last night's downtime, I started drawing (and am very proud of myself for following through on the urge). I know lots of people have already seen it, but for those who haven't, this is the first thing in my sketchbook: + Show Spoiler + Yeah buddy. It can be really calming to sit and spend an hour or so drawing. Have some chillstep on in the background. I need some reading recommendations for vacation. I've got a trilogy lined up but I may need more or just stuff for the near future to pick up. Anything goes that seems interesting, as long as it would be appropriate to discuss in this Lounge What genre of books are you interested in? Also anyone have some resources for beginner drawing? I suck giant noodle but always wanted to try it out. Like I said I'll read w/e as long as it's wholesome. I haven't read the Dresden Files and I just thought of that so I may have answered my own question for now but I'd keep a list. Soniv, can you tell me what's special about those shorts? I'm interested. But not in your pair specifically.
I don't really know what wholesome means, like no violence/sex? Malazan Book of the Fallen if you into fantasy but there's violence and mostly implied sex. No actual fully descriptive sex scene in my memory.
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On June 10 2015 04:49 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese I checked out DuoLingo but it's mostly Euro languages Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker. Written is one thing but vocal is another. My hope is to not tell my fiance and then one day switch languages in the middle of a conversation and see what happens.
Good luck hiding that from her for that long.
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On June 10 2015 04:49 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese I checked out DuoLingo but it's mostly Euro languages Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker. Written is one thing but vocal is another. My hope is to not tell my fiance and then one day switch languages in the middle of a conversation and see what happens.
there's also some free language wesbsites, i don't know if they have cantonese though.
sry I'm not more help
Dresden files are okay I just got bored because there were so many of them and they didn't really seem to go anywhere. thats just my opinion though
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On June 10 2015 04:49 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese I checked out DuoLingo but it's mostly Euro languages Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker. Written is one thing but vocal is another. My hope is to not tell my fiance and then one day switch languages in the middle of a conversation and see what happens.
Don't have time to make sure this meets your criteria but may help: http://www.memrise.com/courses/english/cantonese/
On June 10 2015 04:50 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:47 mordek wrote:On June 10 2015 04:31 Numy wrote:On June 10 2015 04:27 mordek wrote:On June 10 2015 04:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:Whether you guys (or I) like it or not, y'all are my friends. Good to have the Lounge. In last night's downtime, I started drawing (and am very proud of myself for following through on the urge). I know lots of people have already seen it, but for those who haven't, this is the first thing in my sketchbook: + Show Spoiler + Yeah buddy. It can be really calming to sit and spend an hour or so drawing. Have some chillstep on in the background. I need some reading recommendations for vacation. I've got a trilogy lined up but I may need more or just stuff for the near future to pick up. Anything goes that seems interesting, as long as it would be appropriate to discuss in this Lounge What genre of books are you interested in? Also anyone have some resources for beginner drawing? I suck giant noodle but always wanted to try it out. Like I said I'll read w/e as long as it's wholesome. I haven't read the Dresden Files and I just thought of that so I may have answered my own question for now but I'd keep a list. Soniv, can you tell me what's special about those shorts? I'm interested. But not in your pair specifically. I don't really know what wholesome means, like no violence/sex? Malazan Book of the Fallen if you into fantasy but there's violence and mostly implied sex. No actual fully descriptive sex scene in my memory.
I don't read or watch GoT is an example. As for violence, it's mostly there's enough sick and twisted things in real life to cope with, I'm not going to spend my leisure time exposing myself to it.
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I'll tell you the same thing I told some other random
Learn mandarin first then cantonese from there.
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dresden files are fun and small
malazan book of the fallen is long and epic
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On June 10 2015 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'll tell you the same thing I told some other random
Learn mandarin first then cantonese from there.
The joke is that cantonese is just mandarin with a sock in your mouth, but honestly the two languages are so different tonally that for someone who didn't grow up making those shapes with their mouth it's not really going to make one or the other easier which ones you learn and in what order.
The biggest piece of empirical evidence for speeding up language learning is to hear it in natural conversation. So Requizen, I hope you like chinese soap operas because there are shitloads of those in cantonese you can start watching for immersion.
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On June 10 2015 04:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:49 Requizen wrote:On June 10 2015 04:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese I checked out DuoLingo but it's mostly Euro languages On June 10 2015 04:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker. Written is one thing but vocal is another. My hope is to not tell my fiance and then one day switch languages in the middle of a conversation and see what happens. there's also some free language wesbsites, i don't know if they have cantonese though. sry I'm not more help Dresden files are okay I just got bored because there were so many of them and they didn't really seem to go anywhere. thats just my opinion though
How far did you get? The overarching plot doesn't really kick in until a few books in, but they do all stand alone as separate stories even without it (other than a couple).
On June 10 2015 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'll tell you the same thing I told some other random
Learn mandarin first then cantonese from there.
Her family is southern Chinese, though. I know she knows some Mandarin, but I'm not sure if it's as much.
Also, I'm shit with languages so learning one would be better than learning two :\
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On June 10 2015 04:55 Zess wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'll tell you the same thing I told some other random
Learn mandarin first then cantonese from there. The joke is that cantonese is just mandarin with a sock in your mouth, but honestly the two languages are so different tonally that for someone who didn't grow up making those shapes with their mouth it's not really going to make one or the other easier which ones you learn and in what order. The biggest piece of empirical evidence for speeding up language learning is to hear it in natural conversation. So Requizen, I hope you like chinese soap operas because there are shitloads of those in cantonese you can start watching for immersion.
Haha I'll look out for them 
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On June 10 2015 04:55 Zess wrote:
The joke is that cantonese is just mandarin with a sock in your mouth, but honestly the two languages are so different tonally that for someone who didn't grow up making those shapes with their mouth it's not really going to make one or the other easier which ones you learn and in what order.
The biggest piece of empirical evidence for speeding up language learning is to hear it in natural conversation. So Requizen, I hope you like chinese soap operas because there are shitloads of those in cantonese you can start watching for immersion.
Well there are probably more English language resources for learning Mandarin so it would probably be easier, but yeah if you want to learn Cantonese, learn Cantonese--don't learn Mandarin as a "gateway" to learning Cantonese.
On June 10 2015 04:57 Requizen wrote:Haha I'll look out for them
Watch Infernal Affairs first, tbh.
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On June 10 2015 04:56 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:On June 10 2015 04:49 Requizen wrote:On June 10 2015 04:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese I checked out DuoLingo but it's mostly Euro languages On June 10 2015 04:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker. Written is one thing but vocal is another. My hope is to not tell my fiance and then one day switch languages in the middle of a conversation and see what happens. there's also some free language wesbsites, i don't know if they have cantonese though. sry I'm not more help Dresden files are okay I just got bored because there were so many of them and they didn't really seem to go anywhere. thats just my opinion though How far did you get? The overarching plot doesn't really kick in until a few books in, but they do all stand alone as separate stories even without it (other than a couple). Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'll tell you the same thing I told some other random
Learn mandarin first then cantonese from there. Her family is southern Chinese, though. I know she knows some Mandarin, but I'm not sure if it's as much. Also, I'm shit with languages so learning one would be better than learning two :\
I want to say I stopped before changes I think. I just got bored with it. I might go back to it at somepoint.
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On June 10 2015 04:47 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:31 Numy wrote:On June 10 2015 04:27 mordek wrote:On June 10 2015 04:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:Whether you guys (or I) like it or not, y'all are my friends. Good to have the Lounge. In last night's downtime, I started drawing (and am very proud of myself for following through on the urge). I know lots of people have already seen it, but for those who haven't, this is the first thing in my sketchbook: + Show Spoiler + Yeah buddy. It can be really calming to sit and spend an hour or so drawing. Have some chillstep on in the background. I need some reading recommendations for vacation. I've got a trilogy lined up but I may need more or just stuff for the near future to pick up. Anything goes that seems interesting, as long as it would be appropriate to discuss in this Lounge What genre of books are you interested in? Also anyone have some resources for beginner drawing? I suck giant noodle but always wanted to try it out. Like I said I'll read w/e as long as it's wholesome. I haven't read the Dresden Files and I just thought of that so I may have answered my own question for now but I'd keep a list. Soniv, can you tell me what's special about those shorts? I'm interested. But not in your pair specifically.
They're incredibly light - basically a loose DryFit material. I originally tried them back in high school when I bought a pair at a tournament, and got a couple more pairs since then cuz they're amazing.
However, they aren't great for something like gymnastics because of how loose they are - easy to snag a finger when doing pommels or some shit.
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On June 10 2015 04:51 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:49 Requizen wrote:On June 10 2015 04:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. I think there's some good cheap langauge apps but I'm not sure if they have cantonese I checked out DuoLingo but it's mostly Euro languages On June 10 2015 04:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 10 2015 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Alright, somewhat serious question:
I'm going to seriously attempt to learn Cantonese, at least at a cursory level. I downloaded some podcasts from CantoneseClass101, but are there other and/or better resources?
Learning a tonal language is quite difficult. That might be one of the harder parts of this. Maybe try looking for a pen pal setup site? That would at least get you communicating with a native speaker. Written is one thing but vocal is another. My hope is to not tell my fiance and then one day switch languages in the middle of a conversation and see what happens. Don't have time to make sure this meets your criteria but may help: http://www.memrise.com/courses/english/cantonese/Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:50 Numy wrote:On June 10 2015 04:47 mordek wrote:On June 10 2015 04:31 Numy wrote:On June 10 2015 04:27 mordek wrote:On June 10 2015 04:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:Whether you guys (or I) like it or not, y'all are my friends. Good to have the Lounge. In last night's downtime, I started drawing (and am very proud of myself for following through on the urge). I know lots of people have already seen it, but for those who haven't, this is the first thing in my sketchbook: + Show Spoiler + Yeah buddy. It can be really calming to sit and spend an hour or so drawing. Have some chillstep on in the background. I need some reading recommendations for vacation. I've got a trilogy lined up but I may need more or just stuff for the near future to pick up. Anything goes that seems interesting, as long as it would be appropriate to discuss in this Lounge What genre of books are you interested in? Also anyone have some resources for beginner drawing? I suck giant noodle but always wanted to try it out. Like I said I'll read w/e as long as it's wholesome. I haven't read the Dresden Files and I just thought of that so I may have answered my own question for now but I'd keep a list. Soniv, can you tell me what's special about those shorts? I'm interested. But not in your pair specifically. I don't really know what wholesome means, like no violence/sex? Malazan Book of the Fallen if you into fantasy but there's violence and mostly implied sex. No actual fully descriptive sex scene in my memory. I don't read or watch GoT is an example. As for violence, it's mostly there's enough sick and twisted things in real life to cope with, I'm not going to spend my leisure time exposing myself to it.
Ok ye then don't read what I just suggested. It's a long fantasy epic that largely follows military group. Honestly have nothing you'd enjoy unless you want to read trashy Light Novels. Spice and Wolf I ended and is prob the least trashy LN I've read. If you into people talking to each other while flirting and doing medieval pseudo-economics then that'll be nice.
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On June 10 2015 04:57 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 04:55 Zess wrote:On June 10 2015 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'll tell you the same thing I told some other random
Learn mandarin first then cantonese from there. The joke is that cantonese is just mandarin with a sock in your mouth, but honestly the two languages are so different tonally that for someone who didn't grow up making those shapes with their mouth it's not really going to make one or the other easier which ones you learn and in what order. The biggest piece of empirical evidence for speeding up language learning is to hear it in natural conversation. So Requizen, I hope you like chinese soap operas because there are shitloads of those in cantonese you can start watching for immersion. Haha I'll look out for them
he's just trying to bait you into watching chinese soaps with your otter
dont do it
you will never escape. there is no way out.
€: RE: books, pratchett is really good for traveling imo, well suited to just pick it up, read a bit, do vacation stuff, read again, repeat. but that might just be me, i prefer to read serious and/or plot-driven books basically in one go, and prefer lighter things for vacation, where you can get distracted without losing too much.
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LLLGN doesn't sound near as cool as TLLOLOTGDDGN IMO, but I'm open for ideas. I'm glad to atleast see that we have a thread again. Here's to 5173 more pages boys.
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