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again not seeing how this is a valid criticism
we saw she has super strong armour and she was far away because she got blown away by the blast..

theres plenty of valid criticisms of the movie but this detail is just you guys trying too hard

2 main chars were effectively duck and covered for the blast and for plot reasons the baddie survived, they gave her stupid strong armour as an excuse to have her survive

Hey man, im not here to criticize or demean anybody's enjoyment of a film. What you enjoy is subjective. But i do my best to keep my criticism as close to objective as i can, so I went into the movie shelving all my negative feelings about Star Wars. We've talked about this before, but i dont define what makes a good movie based purely on whether or not it was enjoyable. So that's not the lens I'll give my opinions through.

I can sort of understand how that sequence can be explained away and accept that. It's just as I was watching it seeing her appear out of the smoke far away from them while everyone around them were dead completely broke me out of the scene. Instead of "oh awesome" it was more like "of course they all alive but how the fuck is she so far away".

Idk I just hate everything involving that silver woman. It just feels like they saying "look how awesome this stormtrooper is!" while never giving us a reason to believe that she is awesome and instead undermining her constantly. So it's entirely possible my irritation at the character clouds the scene.

Phoenix Force Jean Grey is as close to a god as you can be. Go all the fucking way out with it, she didn't need "the power of friendship" to defeat Apocalypse would much rather have seen them go completely bonkers with CGI as she burn, tear, destroy Apocalypse and everything around him. Did they completely ignore that Phoenix is the literal incarnation of destruction, passion and death? An angry Jean Grey with Phoenix Force should be a walking goddess of destruction.

Phoenix can destroy galaxies, create them as it please and is prophesied to devour and re-create the entire universe for crying out loud. Outside Morgan Freeman's God it's probably the most powerful being ever depicted in a movie. >:O

I understand some movies have merits other than enjoyment, as do books and other art, and that's great,
but honestly I don't think the Star Wars saga really offers anything other than pure enjoyment. It's not really philosophical, educational, insightful or anything like that imo, so judging it purely based on enjoyment value doesn't seem wrong in this case.

Normally, I'd agree and wouldn't bother, but I think this one actually does try to be a more complete movie than just a Star Wars movie, which is why I actually took the time to take apart the narrative structure. If this was TFA I wouldn't bother to go into depth on it, but this film more or less asked us to judge it as a real film, and it holds up about as much as it doesn't.