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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On December 20 2017 23:11 Numy wrote: + Show Spoiler + Don't forget she goes from being right next to both of them to being quite a distance away. That whole character is such a mess. We meant to believe she's this badass commander after what she did in the previous movie? How does she still have command after she sabotaged everything. I wish for once these movies would show the "evil" guys being semi competent. + Show Spoiler + again not seeing how this is a valid criticism we saw she has super strong armour and she was far away because she got blown away by the blast.. theres plenty of valid criticisms of the movie but this detail is just you guys trying too hard 2 main chars were effectively duck and covered for the blast and for plot reasons the baddie survived, they gave her stupid strong armour as an excuse to have her survive | ||
red_
United States8474 Posts
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Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Y'all are a buncha negative nancies, it was my 2nd favourite movie of the year, only behind Dunkirk, and that's mostly just because of the subject matter. I will agree with Wave that the speech about no self sacrifice was dumb, but that was the only moment that took me out of the movie. | ||
GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Hey man, im not here to criticize or demean anybody's enjoyment of a film. What you enjoy is subjective. But i do my best to keep my criticism as close to objective as i can, so I went into the movie shelving all my negative feelings about Star Wars. We've talked about this before, but i dont define what makes a good movie based purely on whether or not it was enjoyable. So that's not the lens I'll give my opinions through. | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 21 2017 09:52 Slayer91 wrote: + Show Spoiler + again not seeing how this is a valid criticism we saw she has super strong armour and she was far away because she got blown away by the blast.. theres plenty of valid criticisms of the movie but this detail is just you guys trying too hard 2 main chars were effectively duck and covered for the blast and for plot reasons the baddie survived, they gave her stupid strong armour as an excuse to have her survive + Show Spoiler + I can sort of understand how that sequence can be explained away and accept that. It's just as I was watching it seeing her appear out of the smoke far away from them while everyone around them were dead completely broke me out of the scene. Instead of "oh awesome" it was more like "of course they all alive but how the fuck is she so far away". Idk I just hate everything involving that silver woman. It just feels like they saying "look how awesome this stormtrooper is!" while never giving us a reason to believe that she is awesome and instead undermining her constantly. So it's entirely possible my irritation at the character clouds the scene. | ||
Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On December 21 2017 11:32 red_ wrote: Thanos appearance is probably a middle ground for someone that will be seen a lot, live acted, but can't be done with practical effects, so they bridged some kind of gap where they made it relatively easy CGI on top of Josh Brolin. I feel like they probably should've just done for Thanos what they do for Hulk but I'm not going to claim to be some production expert, maybe that's really fucking hard because of what they want Thanos to do in the movie(s) I actually like how they are doing Thanos. Instead of layering one of the most iconic Marvel villains in CGI they use as much of the classical way as possible to present him, CGI sort of age in the bad way while costumes and makeup remain as it were. Since Thanos is roughly the size of an actual human I'd also imagine it's easier to convey his expressions in a believable fashion in scenes where he interact with other actors. Yes it's easy to say "but Gollum!?" but Gollum's facial features are much much exaggerated. Color change is silly tho. I am somewhat disappointed about how they have done Jean Grey with Phoenix Force so far + Show Spoiler + Phoenix Force Jean Grey is as close to a god as you can be. Go all the fucking way out with it, she didn't need "the power of friendship" to defeat Apocalypse would much rather have seen them go completely bonkers with CGI as she burn, tear, destroy Apocalypse and everything around him. Did they completely ignore that Phoenix is the literal incarnation of destruction, passion and death? An angry Jean Grey with Phoenix Force should be a walking goddess of destruction. Phoenix can destroy galaxies, create them as it please and is prophesied to devour and re-create the entire universe for crying out loud. Outside Morgan Freeman's God it's probably the most powerful being ever depicted in a movie. >:O | ||
Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
On December 21 2017 14:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hey man, im not here to criticize or demean anybody's enjoyment of a film. What you enjoy is subjective. But i do my best to keep my criticism as close to objective as i can, so I went into the movie shelving all my negative feelings about Star Wars. We've talked about this before, but i dont define what makes a good movie based purely on whether or not it was enjoyable. So that's not the lens I'll give my opinions through. + Show Spoiler + Yeah I know, I'm pretty much a Star Wars shill so it really woulda had to be really awful for me to not say BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR lol. | ||
Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 21 2017 14:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hey man, im not here to criticize or demean anybody's enjoyment of a film. What you enjoy is subjective. But i do my best to keep my criticism as close to objective as i can, so I went into the movie shelving all my negative feelings about Star Wars. We've talked about this before, but i dont define what makes a good movie based purely on whether or not it was enjoyable. So that's not the lens I'll give my opinions through. + Show Spoiler + I understand some movies have merits other than enjoyment, as do books and other art, and that's great, but honestly I don't think the Star Wars saga really offers anything other than pure enjoyment. It's not really philosophical, educational, insightful or anything like that imo, so judging it purely based on enjoyment value doesn't seem wrong in this case. | ||
Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On December 21 2017 22:39 Scip wrote: + Show Spoiler + I understand some movies have merits other than enjoyment, as do books and other art, and that's great, but honestly I don't think the Star Wars saga really offers anything other than pure enjoyment. It's not really philosophical, educational, insightful or anything like that imo, so judging it purely based on enjoyment value doesn't seem wrong in this case. I mean, Star Wars always had political/religious undertones - albeit some of it may be "death of the author"ish. | ||
Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 21 2017 22:46 Gahlo wrote: I mean, Star Wars always had political/religious undertones - albeit some of it may be "death of the author"ish. errr did it though I mean all the tropes it used to establish the bad guys are bad guys are as generic as it gets big bullying the small higher ups bullying underlings (forcechoke) evil voice, anonymous masks torture really the only big one missing from the list is rape, and that's probably just because it's primarily a kids movie. the good guys were good because they wanted to save the princess and then they wanted to throw over the empire that was ruled by pretty much pure evil. I mean the main baddie was so evil he could throw lightning from his hands. It doesn't get more evil than that. oh and Luke wanted to talk no jutsu his dad, I guess that makes him good too. Did it before Naruto was cool. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On December 21 2017 22:39 Scip wrote: + Show Spoiler + I understand some movies have merits other than enjoyment, as do books and other art, and that's great, but honestly I don't think the Star Wars saga really offers anything other than pure enjoyment. It's not really philosophical, educational, insightful or anything like that imo, so judging it purely based on enjoyment value doesn't seem wrong in this case. + Show Spoiler + Normally, I'd agree and wouldn't bother, but I think this one actually does try to be a more complete movie than just a Star Wars movie, which is why I actually took the time to take apart the narrative structure. If this was TFA I wouldn't bother to go into depth on it, but this film more or less asked us to judge it as a real film, and it holds up about as much as it doesn't. | ||
Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On December 22 2017 02:45 Scip wrote: errr did it though I mean all the tropes it used to establish the bad guys are bad guys are as generic as it gets big bullying the small higher ups bullying underlings (forcechoke) evil voice, anonymous masks torture really the only big one missing from the list is rape, and that's probably just because it's primarily a kids movie. the good guys were good because they wanted to save the princess and then they wanted to throw over the empire that was ruled by pretty much pure evil. I mean the main baddie was so evil he could throw lightning from his hands. It doesn't get more evil than that. oh and Luke wanted to talk no jutsu his dad, I guess that makes him good too. Did it before Naruto was cool. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/star-wars-is-more-political-than-you-think_us_590b663de4b056aa2363d298 A simple good search will give you many, many more results. | ||
Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On December 22 2017 08:48 Scip wrote: There isn't anything political I could derive from the movies without reading about G Lucas' intention of it being political To be fair you weren't a semi-functioning human being residing in America during that war either. Would probably be much easier to tell if you were lol. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Strim live, playing eternal and talking 'bout eyes for those interested | ||
Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
I'm trying to fix my danglish and had a discussion with a friend about "eager to see" vs "anxious to see", the only conclusion we could come up with is "they are sorta the same". 1) Is there any difference? 2) If so when should you use either? | ||
AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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