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On October 11 2017 02:26 PrinceXizor wrote: Length of commute also is one of the larger factors for upward mobility in terms of wealth.
Interesting. Positive or negative correlation?
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On October 11 2017 03:31 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2017 02:26 PrinceXizor wrote: Length of commute also is one of the larger factors for upward mobility in terms of wealth. Interesting. Positive or negative correlation? Longer commute = less upward mobility.
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Awesome. I'm 5 minutes from the office at new job. ^_^ old commute was an hour and a half.
I think you have to bust your ass regardless but still nice to see the metrics boost ya.
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I've said my piece on this somewhere, but it's all about your priorities. It sounds yours are similar to mine, Req. I probably could have gone to med school if I wanted, but 10+ years of school/long hours/stress really didn't seem like the life I wanted, so I ended up going into something similar, still providing health care but with less overhead.
I could be earning WAY more than I do if I opened my own practice, struggled for a few years of building up a patient base/managing the practice, but the way it is now I don't have to bring work home with me, I get to spend time with my family in the morning/evening (some I don't but that's just how this particular career is everywhere really) and I'm MUCH happier than I would be with more money, I think.
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The main issue is that I've not held down a job for more than ~1.3 year at a time up until this point. For one reason or another I end up leaving and going somewhere else. I planned to be here for at least 5 years so it didn't look like I was jobhopping, which makes it pretty hard to pin down a job when you do want to look for one if they think you're going to bail after a year there.
Just annoyed.
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Is it possible to get a bike for the final part of the commute? 30+min walk is excessive.when you just want to get somewhere. Two hour commutes aren't too bad if it's no or max 1 switch. But with two+ it really sucks.
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On October 11 2017 06:49 Duvon wrote: Is it possible to get a bike for the final part of the commute? 30+min walk is excessive.when you just want to get somewhere. I can rent one for $9 per day or $100 per year. It's actually not too bad for Chicago, but of course it's absolute garbage during rain or snow.
Two hour commutes aren't too bad if it's no or max 1 switch. Disagree which is the whole point of this thing.
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On October 11 2017 06:54 Requizen wrote:Disagree which is the whole point of this thing. Can you work (or game? :p) on the train?
Have a few people I know with very long commutes, but they all make it work by being able to be productive on the train.
Grandparents brother in law actually won a chess world championship just by using all his train time to study positions.
If it's just 4 dead hours a day then your basically working 4 hours overtime every day with zero pay. That kinda sucks :<
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That's not the problem it seems, guys. Yeah he can use his train time for all sorts of stuff, but he's not spending time with his wife/family. On top of that, commuting even if you're not doing the driving is not the same as down time at home.
Req from everything you've described it really just seems like you should find something else. I get the job hopping worries, but you do what you've got to do. If you apply somewhere and they ask, you explain. It's not exactly unreasonable for someone not to want to commute 4h each day.
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On October 11 2017 06:42 Requizen wrote: The main issue is that I've not held down a job for more than ~1.3 year at a time up until this point. For one reason or another I end up leaving and going somewhere else. I planned to be here for at least 5 years so it didn't look like I was jobhopping, which makes it pretty hard to pin down a job when you do want to look for one if they think you're going to bail after a year there.
Just annoyed.
I feel like I've read a ton lately that especially in the tech industry the short job stay thing is perfectly fine, normal, and possibly even advantageous for the employee because it leads to more money than staying in the same spot. Not really in a position to google it up right now but especially this early in your career I wouldn't be too scared of having some short stints on the resume.
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I've read that it's a generational thing that now companies don't give a shit about employee retention and you'll be making much more money and progress switching jobs every 1-2 years which seems to be the current norm.
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On October 11 2017 09:30 Holyflare wrote: I've read that it's a generational thing that now companies don't give a shit about employee retention and you'll be making much more money and progress switching jobs every 1-2 years which seems to be the current norm. Yup. Companies generally don't care as long as you aren't essential to something.
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On October 11 2017 02:36 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2017 02:26 iCanada wrote: Can you take a train or something to ameliorate things short term? That's what I do. I drive ~20 minutes to the train station, take a train for an hour, walk 30+ minutes to the office, immediately go to morning meeting. There's actually no shorter solution.
What the heck. Yeah, I think I'd bail pretty quickly. I have a 5 minute commute though, and it is more like 2 minutes if there's no traffic.
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In good news though, wife's puppy adjustment period is over and she likes him now. So I got that going for me at least.
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On October 11 2017 10:36 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2017 09:30 Holyflare wrote: I've read that it's a generational thing that now companies don't give a shit about employee retention and you'll be making much more money and progress switching jobs every 1-2 years which seems to be the current norm. Yup. Companies generally don't care as long as you aren't essential to something.
1-2 is probably a little too hoppy. More like 2-3 would work, though a longer spell or two is good (it lets a potential employer look at you and say "hey this guy moves around but maybe he'll stick with us!). And you have to be pretty good/ show progression, otherwise it just looks like you can't hold a job.
I've got a 5 minute commute. I pay quite a bit more for rent, but it's so worth it.
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That's certainly how it is in Malaysia. Rare to see anyone who has been in any company more than five years. Companies don't want to keep you because they can hire somebody new for less, so it's easier for you to join a different company in the same field to get a promotion than to get a promotion within the same company.
Seems ass backwards all to hell, IMO.
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Those feels when you spend all night preparing for an interview and miss important things to do it and they rearrange it to the next day instead.
So much going on lately. Girlfriend still anxious mess but she's been doing therapy and she's managed to get herself well enough to do at least some minimal volunteering which I'm happy for her. Still means I'm paying all the rent and bills which is more than my salary.
Next month tenancy ends so flat searching and have to house share. Found a friend but he wants to live in an area he doesn't really have a budget for so the homes we're looking at are mediocre but at this point I have to do it to:
A) Continue living with girlfriend. B) Be able to afford to live.
I kind of want to tell everyone to fuck off and be a hermit or live with strangers and tell my girlfriend we can't live together until she's well enough for a job. But I'd miss her cos we're both clingy and enjoy each other's company and soppy relationship shit like that.
Also this job I'm interviewing for is the same company, the same pay, more responsibility. But at least it's not fucking typing, jesus christ. My arms are actually broken and hurt. At least in the job I can leave after a year and have good transferable skills somewhat....
New job, pressure of finding a new place and all the hassle of moving, relationships and my need to be alone. Life is a mess.
I guess I'm plowing through it and once I know about the flat I'll feel much much better I hope. Also London sucks. I wanna get money and buy a house and it's impossible. I have no savings anymore :s.
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On October 11 2017 14:22 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2017 10:36 Gahlo wrote:On October 11 2017 09:30 Holyflare wrote: I've read that it's a generational thing that now companies don't give a shit about employee retention and you'll be making much more money and progress switching jobs every 1-2 years which seems to be the current norm. Yup. Companies generally don't care as long as you aren't essential to something. 1-2 is probably a little too hoppy. More like 2-3 would work, though a longer spell or two is good (it lets a potential employer look at you and say "hey this guy moves around but maybe he'll stick with us!). And you have to be pretty good/ show progression, otherwise it just looks like you can't hold a job. I've got a 5 minute commute. I pay quite a bit more for rent, but it's so worth it.
2-3 is the rule of thumb as I understand it. 1 is in the range where employers will start to question whether they're really going to get anything useful out of you given how much it cost them just to interview/discuss you and how long it's likely to take for you to come up to speed on domain knowledge.
But you also don't want to stay in any one place longer than that unless they're very generous with benefits/raises/bonuses, otherwise you'll stunt your earnings. I stayed at my first job 7 years and I'm probably making 10-15k less than I might otherwise because of that.
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