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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 12 2013 03:36 GMT
#11341
So, relevant to the Inhouse thread, I kinda see Cheep and Roffles as Punch and Judy. Not just me, right?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
November 12 2013 03:41 GMT
#11342
On November 12 2013 12:33 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 11:28 Scip wrote:
On November 12 2013 09:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Not to stir up the debate again, but interesting infograph on Myer Briggs personality test and average income. Here

Good job, you have stirred up a debate
I will hurt you so bad that you'll still be sore after you die >:-(

wtf your signature. Do I need to add more exclamation marks to my signature?
edit: edited

Is this the best czech insult you know? What is this, kindergarten?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 12 2013 03:48 GMT
#11343
On November 12 2013 11:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 10:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 12 2013 09:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Not to stir up the debate again, but interesting infograph on Myer Briggs personality test and average income. Here

So... what is the implication here.


If you go out and actually do something you make more money than sitting in your parents basement doing nothing but masturbating to pictures of stolen cheese.

According to some random free personality tests like the free Jung one, I'm 32% introverted and 22% perceiving. This is obviously bs. I'm 100% chicken.

Correlation =/ causation gg.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 12 2013 03:49 GMT
#11344
On November 12 2013 12:41 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 12:33 HazMat wrote:
On November 12 2013 11:28 Scip wrote:
On November 12 2013 09:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Not to stir up the debate again, but interesting infograph on Myer Briggs personality test and average income. Here

Good job, you have stirred up a debate
I will hurt you so bad that you'll still be sore after you die >:-(

wtf your signature. Do I need to add more exclamation marks to my signature?
edit: edited

Is this the best czech insult you know? What is this, kindergarten?

fight me irl
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 12 2013 03:51 GMT
#11345
On November 12 2013 12:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 11:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 12 2013 10:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 12 2013 09:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Not to stir up the debate again, but interesting infograph on Myer Briggs personality test and average income. Here

So... what is the implication here.


If you go out and actually do something you make more money than sitting in your parents basement doing nothing but masturbating to pictures of stolen cheese.

According to some random free personality tests like the free Jung one, I'm 32% introverted and 22% perceiving. This is obviously bs. I'm 100% chicken.

Correlation =/ causation gg.


Best post in the thread. 100% would read again.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 12 2013 03:57 GMT
#11346
On November 12 2013 12:49 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 12:41 Scip wrote:
On November 12 2013 12:33 HazMat wrote:
On November 12 2013 11:28 Scip wrote:
On November 12 2013 09:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Not to stir up the debate again, but interesting infograph on Myer Briggs personality test and average income. Here

Good job, you have stirred up a debate
I will hurt you so bad that you'll still be sore after you die >:-(

wtf your signature. Do I need to add more exclamation marks to my signature?
edit: edited

Is this the best czech insult you know? What is this, kindergarten?

fight me irl

i got my money on scip.
liftlift > tsm
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 12 2013 04:06 GMT
#11347
Inb4 scip throws the fight to make lots if $$$$ off of wei2cool
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 05:11:54
November 12 2013 04:12 GMT
#11348
No, I have honor and a working moral compass, for example I never leveled accounts elo boosted is what I meant
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 12 2013 04:24 GMT
#11349
On November 12 2013 13:12 Scip wrote:
No, I have honor and a working moral compass, for example I never leveled accounts.

Because no one offered you $ to do so right? Otherwise I'm not sure how moral compass comes into play there.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 05:03:33
November 12 2013 05:00 GMT
#11350
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 05:11:43
November 12 2013 05:11 GMT
#11351
On November 12 2013 09:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Not to stir up the debate again, but interesting infograph on Myer Briggs personality test and average income. Here

well shit. me and my artisan bros are poor.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 12 2013 05:50 GMT
#11352
On November 12 2013 14:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.

People complaining about others being payed to level accounts? Just point them at the XP boosts and say "Riot's doing it."

It's a stupid thing to argue about.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 06:00:21
November 12 2013 05:59 GMT
#11353
nvm
Carrilord has arrived.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 12 2013 06:54 GMT
#11354
On November 12 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 14:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.

People complaining about others being payed to level accounts? Just point them at the XP boosts and say "Riot's doing it."

It's a stupid thing to argue about.


No? Even with xp boosts you need a few hundred games without all runes, masteries, and in some instances summoners if you ever do make a new account. So I don't see any harm if someone wants to pay someone else to level a new account. Obviously a brand new player wouldn't do it, it's more for smurfs. Sad that smurfs are so often looked down on in some games. It really never was a problem to me in scbw. It's like okay he's better than me.... Whatever? I think i had like 3 accounts back in the day lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
November 12 2013 09:06 GMT
#11355
I think smurfs are fine. I'd rather play against a smurf than have some dude who wants to tank games to lower his mmr.

it does suck to have to grind to 30 though. but it can be a lot of fun since if you're good enough you can get away with anything.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 09:11:52
November 12 2013 09:11 GMT
#11356
On November 12 2013 15:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.

People complaining about others being payed to level accounts? Just point them at the XP boosts and say "Riot's doing it."

It's a stupid thing to argue about.


No? Even with xp boosts you need a few hundred games without all runes, masteries, and in some instances summoners if you ever do make a new account. So I don't see any harm if someone wants to pay someone else to level a new account. Obviously a brand new player wouldn't do it, it's more for smurfs. Sad that smurfs are so often looked down on in some games. It really never was a problem to me in scbw. It's like okay he's better than me.... Whatever? I think i had like 3 accounts back in the day lol

His point is that selling XP (in the form of boosts) is conceptually the same thing as an account leveling service. So you can't condemn account leveling without condemning Riot too.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 12 2013 09:38 GMT
#11357
On November 12 2013 18:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 15:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.

People complaining about others being payed to level accounts? Just point them at the XP boosts and say "Riot's doing it."

It's a stupid thing to argue about.


No? Even with xp boosts you need a few hundred games without all runes, masteries, and in some instances summoners if you ever do make a new account. So I don't see any harm if someone wants to pay someone else to level a new account. Obviously a brand new player wouldn't do it, it's more for smurfs. Sad that smurfs are so often looked down on in some games. It really never was a problem to me in scbw. It's like okay he's better than me.... Whatever? I think i had like 3 accounts back in the day lol

His point is that selling XP (in the form of boosts) is conceptually the same thing as an account leveling service. So you can't condemn account leveling without condemning Riot too.


Not entirely though. It's the difference of needing to do the work yourself vs someone else doing it. In both cases you pay money. In the one scenario you just sit back and it gets leveled while you can do other things. In the other you have to play the games yourself, even though you need to play less overall. It's a time investment, and for some people it's not super fun for them because you need to deal with all the low level silliness (which I find funny and like, but there are people who don't and rage about it).

Like I'd never pay for any of that, I just like to play. But for some people they don't want to deal with the "hassle" but want the benefits lol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 12 2013 10:02 GMT
#11358
On November 12 2013 18:38 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 18:11 TheYango wrote:
On November 12 2013 15:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.

People complaining about others being payed to level accounts? Just point them at the XP boosts and say "Riot's doing it."

It's a stupid thing to argue about.


No? Even with xp boosts you need a few hundred games without all runes, masteries, and in some instances summoners if you ever do make a new account. So I don't see any harm if someone wants to pay someone else to level a new account. Obviously a brand new player wouldn't do it, it's more for smurfs. Sad that smurfs are so often looked down on in some games. It really never was a problem to me in scbw. It's like okay he's better than me.... Whatever? I think i had like 3 accounts back in the day lol

His point is that selling XP (in the form of boosts) is conceptually the same thing as an account leveling service. So you can't condemn account leveling without condemning Riot too.


Not entirely though. It's the difference of needing to do the work yourself vs someone else doing it. In both cases you pay money. In the one scenario you just sit back and it gets leveled while you can do other things. In the other you have to play the games yourself, even though you need to play less overall. It's a time investment, and for some people it's not super fun for them because you need to deal with all the low level silliness (which I find funny and like, but there are people who don't and rage about it).

Like I'd never pay for any of that, I just like to play. But for some people they don't want to deal with the "hassle" but want the benefits lol.



It's not "hassle" vs no hassle. Level grinding services are cheap for people with a decent job. Where do you want to spend your time. That's the only real issue. Same as it was in WoW. Where do you get more enjoyment. Farming for hours or utilizing a couple hours of your income for paying someone else to do it?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 12 2013 10:43 GMT
#11359
On November 12 2013 19:02 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 18:38 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 12 2013 18:11 TheYango wrote:
On November 12 2013 15:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.

People complaining about others being payed to level accounts? Just point them at the XP boosts and say "Riot's doing it."

It's a stupid thing to argue about.


No? Even with xp boosts you need a few hundred games without all runes, masteries, and in some instances summoners if you ever do make a new account. So I don't see any harm if someone wants to pay someone else to level a new account. Obviously a brand new player wouldn't do it, it's more for smurfs. Sad that smurfs are so often looked down on in some games. It really never was a problem to me in scbw. It's like okay he's better than me.... Whatever? I think i had like 3 accounts back in the day lol

His point is that selling XP (in the form of boosts) is conceptually the same thing as an account leveling service. So you can't condemn account leveling without condemning Riot too.


Not entirely though. It's the difference of needing to do the work yourself vs someone else doing it. In both cases you pay money. In the one scenario you just sit back and it gets leveled while you can do other things. In the other you have to play the games yourself, even though you need to play less overall. It's a time investment, and for some people it's not super fun for them because you need to deal with all the low level silliness (which I find funny and like, but there are people who don't and rage about it).

Like I'd never pay for any of that, I just like to play. But for some people they don't want to deal with the "hassle" but want the benefits lol.



It's not "hassle" vs no hassle. Level grinding services are cheap for people with a decent job. Where do you want to spend your time. That's the only real issue. Same as it was in WoW. Where do you get more enjoyment. Farming for hours or utilizing a couple hours of your income for paying someone else to do it?


That's what I mean by "hassle" though - farming for hours. When you could just spend your time doing something else.

Man, mancloud's stream is great.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 12 2013 10:53 GMT
#11360
On November 12 2013 19:02 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 18:38 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 12 2013 18:11 TheYango wrote:
On November 12 2013 15:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
On November 12 2013 14:00 BlackPaladin wrote:
Leveling accounts is a service lol. Like fuck, there is a whole business built around people leveling accounts because it's usually such dull work. (Especially LoL with the rune system + not even allowed to use certain summoners) There is nothing wrong with it. The only think you could argue against is Elo boosting. Elo boosting is kind of meh but in the end they will drop anyway. (Unless you do it at season end for rewards then post on the forum about how good "you" are) You have a nice horse and all but the stable isn't located here so park your horse elsewhere.

People complaining about others being payed to level accounts? Just point them at the XP boosts and say "Riot's doing it."

It's a stupid thing to argue about.


No? Even with xp boosts you need a few hundred games without all runes, masteries, and in some instances summoners if you ever do make a new account. So I don't see any harm if someone wants to pay someone else to level a new account. Obviously a brand new player wouldn't do it, it's more for smurfs. Sad that smurfs are so often looked down on in some games. It really never was a problem to me in scbw. It's like okay he's better than me.... Whatever? I think i had like 3 accounts back in the day lol

His point is that selling XP (in the form of boosts) is conceptually the same thing as an account leveling service. So you can't condemn account leveling without condemning Riot too.


Not entirely though. It's the difference of needing to do the work yourself vs someone else doing it. In both cases you pay money. In the one scenario you just sit back and it gets leveled while you can do other things. In the other you have to play the games yourself, even though you need to play less overall. It's a time investment, and for some people it's not super fun for them because you need to deal with all the low level silliness (which I find funny and like, but there are people who don't and rage about it).

Like I'd never pay for any of that, I just like to play. But for some people they don't want to deal with the "hassle" but want the benefits lol.



It's not "hassle" vs no hassle. Level grinding services are cheap for people with a decent job. Where do you want to spend your time. That's the only real issue. Same as it was in WoW. Where do you get more enjoyment. Farming for hours or utilizing a couple hours of your income for paying someone else to do it?



It's a very subjective manner. I for one, loved playing at maximum level in World of Warcraft, but everytime a new expansion came and i got forced to level up, i seriously considered quitting the game (and mostly did) just to slowly grind my way up to 80/85/90. Grinding for some, is a fun experience, because for them all that matters is playing the very game. However, some people look forward to the social aspects of the game - playing with your friends - and that often requires gaining a maximum level (30 in LoL, 60/70/80/85/90 in WoW etc. etc.) and these types often doesn't have the necessary time to grind. This makes this a very hard matter to find a solution for; should you punish people for wanting to play with their friends faster? Should grinding be removed period?
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