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On May 19 2015 22:06 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:04 Numy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So they basically changed it from Sansa's BF to Sansa herself and yet still had the scene where she gets raped front of theon and he's forced to beat her/rape her too? + Show Spoiler +wait, Ramsey cut theons dick off and then made him rape a chick?
That's so fucked up lol
+ Show Spoiler +It's been awhile but basically he forces her to beat her and stuff then rapes her I think. The whole thing with Ramsey and Theon is just stupid shock value. It's shitty writing and he shoves it in your face constantly. The girl is pretending to be Arya Stark I think but Theon obviously knows it's not her.
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On May 19 2015 22:06 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:04 Numy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So they basically changed it from Sansa's BF to Sansa herself and yet still had the scene where she gets raped front of theon and he's forced to beat her/rape her too? + Show Spoiler +wait, Ramsey cut theons dick off and then made him rape a chick?
That's so fucked up lol
+ Show Spoiler + not sure his dick was chopped off in the book
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On May 19 2015 22:00 mordek wrote: Any of you elite Hearthstoners know if Handlock is decent in the current meta? I seem to have a really good matchup vs warriors but hunter is rough. Seems like half of my games are those two. Depending on how you build it handlock should be slightly favoured vs face hunter.
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On May 19 2015 22:08 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:06 Ketara wrote:On May 19 2015 22:04 Numy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So they basically changed it from Sansa's BF to Sansa herself and yet still had the scene where she gets raped front of theon and he's forced to beat her/rape her too? + Show Spoiler +wait, Ramsey cut theons dick off and then made him rape a chick?
That's so fucked up lol + Show Spoiler + not sure his dick was chopped off in the book
+ Show Spoiler +He does but you don't really know about it. Here's the wiki entry " It is also implied, but not confirmed, that Ramsay removes Theon's genitals as well.[17] Though this is only referenced covertly in the novel". You don't even know it's Theon until way later or if you puzzle it together as he's called Reek the next time you read his POV. Theon basically "hands" over Jeyne to Ramsay then at the wedding knight he strips her cloths off and watches and Ramsay degrades, I can't remember if Ramsay even rapes her or thinks she's too worthless for that. I think Ramsay forces Theon to go down her to to "keep her" wet or something sick. Then there's implications that he has dogs rape her at some other point.
Anyway Ramsay as a character I feel is just there to get cheap sympathy. Most of it serves no purpose other than having a "real villian" type character.
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On May 19 2015 22:11 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:00 mordek wrote: Any of you elite Hearthstoners know if Handlock is decent in the current meta? I seem to have a really good matchup vs warriors but hunter is rough. Seems like half of my games are those two. Depending on how you build it handlock should be slightly favoured vs face hunter. I have double Sludge, Ooze, double healbot. I may be misplaying but it didn't feel favored
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On May 19 2015 22:04 Numy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So they basically changed it from Sansa's BF to Sansa herself and yet still had the scene where she gets raped front of theon and he's forced to beat her/rape her too?
+ Show Spoiler [GoT] +Nah, Theon just had to watch.
I'm not quite through the 5th book, but I'm trying to pick up the pace so I can finish it before the show really spoils anything major. Not that it really matters anymore because of how much the plot lines have been differing.
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Was the stuff in spoilers in books already or is it the famed "stuff in tv show that wasn't in books yet"?
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It's stuff from the latest episode and the difference in storyline between it and the books. That difference started awhile ago so not really spoiling anything. Basically anything involving Sansa is completely different and has been I think from last season.
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On May 19 2015 22:12 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:11 Eppa! wrote:On May 19 2015 22:00 mordek wrote: Any of you elite Hearthstoners know if Handlock is decent in the current meta? I seem to have a really good matchup vs warriors but hunter is rough. Seems like half of my games are those two. Depending on how you build it handlock should be slightly favoured vs face hunter. I have double Sludge, Ooze, double healbot. I may be misplaying but it didn't feel favored  Did you cut taunters / belchers do you have jaraxxxus?
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What happens in the matchup is you either get all your early game removal + heals then he runs out of steam and you grind the win out or you just rolled over in 4 turns. Before you used to be able to maybe luck out with some double moltens but these days people run hunters mark,freezing traps and quick shot. So you're favoured if you get good starting hand and good draws but you get crushed if you get bad start. The deck does well against other decks and you can win games against face hunter so it's not bad. It and control warrior are rather similar in that regard. I think Handlock is just favoured in more other matchups than warrior is.
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I'm watching a guy trying to play Mill Rogue in casual. It's a bit sad, what with all the zoo spam these days.
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+ Show Spoiler [book and show] +it's a shame they changed the Sansa story so much, she was one of my favourite characters in the books. Meow. It also seemed like Littlefinger was somewhat protective of her (to a small extent) in the books but that doesn't really seem to be the case in the series.
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On May 19 2015 22:33 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:12 mordek wrote:On May 19 2015 22:11 Eppa! wrote:On May 19 2015 22:00 mordek wrote: Any of you elite Hearthstoners know if Handlock is decent in the current meta? I seem to have a really good matchup vs warriors but hunter is rough. Seems like half of my games are those two. Depending on how you build it handlock should be slightly favoured vs face hunter. I have double Sludge, Ooze, double healbot. I may be misplaying but it didn't feel favored  Did you cut taunters / belchers do you have jaraxxxus? I'm short one Sunfury :/ but I do have Jaraxxus. Running 2x DoA. I also could be unlucky and lumping midrange and face together. It's hard to do statistics when you're playing on phone so that's why I threw it out there.
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On May 19 2015 22:35 Numy wrote: What happens in the matchup is you either get all your early game removal + heals then he runs out of steam and you grind the win out or you just rolled over in 4 turns. Before you used to be able to maybe luck out with some double moltens but these days people run hunters mark,freezing traps and quick shot. So you're favoured if you get good starting hand and good draws but you get crushed if you get bad start. The deck does well against other decks and you can win games against face hunter so it's not bad. It and control warrior are rather similar in that regard. I think Handlock is just favoured in more other matchups than warrior is. I've had what I thought were good decent starting hands (like Mortal Coil, Dark Bomb, Sludge and Healbot) and still lost so I thought it was worth asking.
edit fail psych it looks like I just replied to numy now.
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Run 2 Sunfury and 1 DoA rather. You not really that interested in trading up so much as just creating a big cheap wall.
On May 19 2015 22:54 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:35 Numy wrote: What happens in the matchup is you either get all your early game removal + heals then he runs out of steam and you grind the win out or you just rolled over in 4 turns. Before you used to be able to maybe luck out with some double moltens but these days people run hunters mark,freezing traps and quick shot. So you're favoured if you get good starting hand and good draws but you get crushed if you get bad start. The deck does well against other decks and you can win games against face hunter so it's not bad. It and control warrior are rather similar in that regard. I think Handlock is just favoured in more other matchups than warrior is. I've had what I thought were good decent starting hands (like Mortal Coil, Dark Bomb, Sludge and Healbot) and still lost so I thought it was worth asking. edit fail  psych it looks like I just replied to numy now.
Hehehe it's cool. Have to remember by "favoured" it means maybe 60% or 55%. So you'll still lose some even if you get good start. It's just in the long run you'll prob win slightly more than you lose which against hunter is pretty big. What did you cut for double ooze?
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On May 19 2015 22:55 Numy wrote:Run 2 Sunfury and 1 DoA rather. You not really that interested in trading up so much as just creating a big cheap wall. Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:54 mordek wrote:On May 19 2015 22:35 Numy wrote: What happens in the matchup is you either get all your early game removal + heals then he runs out of steam and you grind the win out or you just rolled over in 4 turns. Before you used to be able to maybe luck out with some double moltens but these days people run hunters mark,freezing traps and quick shot. So you're favoured if you get good starting hand and good draws but you get crushed if you get bad start. The deck does well against other decks and you can win games against face hunter so it's not bad. It and control warrior are rather similar in that regard. I think Handlock is just favoured in more other matchups than warrior is. I've had what I thought were good decent starting hands (like Mortal Coil, Dark Bomb, Sludge and Healbot) and still lost so I thought it was worth asking. edit fail  psych it looks like I just replied to numy now. Hehehe it's cool. Have to remember by "favoured" it means maybe 60% or 55%. So you'll still lose some even if you get good start. It's just in the long run you'll prob win slightly more than you lose which against hunter is pretty big. What did you cut for double ooze? My list looks like this: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/101155-oblivion-handlock-brm-update +1 Mortal Coil -2 Siphon Soul -1 Sunfury (don't own it) +1 Hellfire +1 Ooze
I usually read those but I missed last week. I also like talking to you guys and I don't watch GoT
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That's what I'm using currently. I'm tinkering with Rag/Jarax/Alex but not sure which is better. My initial thought looking at that deck is that don't like 2 Siphons and don't like 2 Owls. Also don't like Loatheb being in there. Don't see much reason to play it. Double hellfire may be pretty nice in this zoo meta but generally the rule is you run 3 of the "big aoes" so either double hellfire or double shadowflame.
edit: yea I'd craft sunfury if you serious about handlock. It's far more important a card than DoA. If you really struggling vs aggro but fine vs control throw in 2 farseers.
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On May 19 2015 22:54 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:35 Numy wrote: What happens in the matchup is you either get all your early game removal + heals then he runs out of steam and you grind the win out or you just rolled over in 4 turns. Before you used to be able to maybe luck out with some double moltens but these days people run hunters mark,freezing traps and quick shot. So you're favoured if you get good starting hand and good draws but you get crushed if you get bad start. The deck does well against other decks and you can win games against face hunter so it's not bad. It and control warrior are rather similar in that regard. I think Handlock is just favoured in more other matchups than warrior is. I've had what I thought were good decent starting hands (like Mortal Coil, Dark Bomb, Sludge and Healbot) and still lost so I thought it was worth asking. edit fail  psych it looks like I just replied to numy now. Sunfury is probably the most important card. Mulligan for coil, sunfury, drake, molten. Watcher is ok if you have sunfury same with owl. Lotheb is important vs Paladin, Rogue, Druid, Freeze mage.
Almost all handlocks have been cutting emperor.
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On May 19 2015 23:19 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 22:54 mordek wrote:On May 19 2015 22:35 Numy wrote: What happens in the matchup is you either get all your early game removal + heals then he runs out of steam and you grind the win out or you just rolled over in 4 turns. Before you used to be able to maybe luck out with some double moltens but these days people run hunters mark,freezing traps and quick shot. So you're favoured if you get good starting hand and good draws but you get crushed if you get bad start. The deck does well against other decks and you can win games against face hunter so it's not bad. It and control warrior are rather similar in that regard. I think Handlock is just favoured in more other matchups than warrior is. I've had what I thought were good decent starting hands (like Mortal Coil, Dark Bomb, Sludge and Healbot) and still lost so I thought it was worth asking. edit fail  psych it looks like I just replied to numy now. Sunfury is probably the most important card. Mulligan for coil, sunfury, drake, molten. Watcher is ok if you have sunfury same with owl. Lotheb is important vs Paladin, Rogue, Druid, Freeze mage.
None of those classes aside from Druid are really popular currently until you get way higher level. It's shit vs hunter/warlock/warrior which are your main concern. Even then it doesn't really help that much vs Druid/Mage. More often than not you'll just play it as a 5 drop that doesn't really accomplish much besides having a 5/5 body.
edit: Ye I'm not sold on emp either.
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