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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Just look at the sponsors - Smash has people like Alliance, C9, TSM. EG is, afaik, the only tier 1 sponsor for other fighting games. I can't think of any other sponsors that are comparable to these in scale. So you're assuming that bigger orgs give better contracts? Because I'm not inclined to believe so based on history of sponsorships in FGC. Also, Complexity used to sponsor marvel and sf players, so did Dignitas, EG sponsors 5 sf players, MCZ sponsors lots of players, Liquid has one, Razer has few, Avermedia has one, Hori has one, and then there are several grassroots organisations (such as Brokentier, PIE and CTRL to name more successful ones). What hour are you playing SG? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:23 TheYango wrote: That's a ridiculously lopsided comparison because Evo isn't even close to Smash's biggest event of the year and in general the payout for Smash is dispersed over many more smaller events that happen more frequently than SF4's or MvC3's. http://i.imgur.com/xcmvv8Y.png "not even close" There are 2-3 SF4/MvC3 events every month, are Smash tournaments literally every week? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:35 AlterKot wrote: So you're assuming that bigger orgs give better contracts? Because I'm not inclined to believe so based on history of sponsorships in FGC. Also, Complexity used to sponsor marvel and sf players, so did Dignitas, EG sponsors 5 sf players, MCZ sponsors lots of players, Liquid has one, Razer has few, Avermedia has one, Hori has one, and then there are several grassroots organisations (such as Brokentier, PIE and CTRL to name more successful ones). What hour are you playing SG? Tonight I'll actually likely be home earlier than usual so we can start around 7 est maybe? Depends on soniv and who else is playing too. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote: This fascinates me a little because it sort of flies in the face of everything I've experienced. Why is this the case for you? I'm not sure, I haven't actually thought about it before. Off the cuff Melee's action is less interesting, and I think it's probably a combination of a lot of subtle things. I am reminded of Every Frame a Painting's video on Jackie Chan, and in that context Melee is to fight scenes in American cinema as SF4 is to Hong Kong's. On May 07 2015 01:23 TheYango wrote: That's a ridiculously lopsided comparison because Evo isn't even close to Smash's biggest event of the year and in general the payout for Smash is dispersed over many more smaller events that happen more frequently than SF4's or MvC3's. If you compare the total amount of tournament prize money each year from those 3 games, Smash is pretty close to SF4's and is way more when you consider that half of SF4's money comes from Capcom Cup, which is from the developer themselves (Nintendo is not as invested in Esports and so doesn't do the same for Smash--it'd be like saying DotA 2 was bigger than LoL in 2011 just because of The International). MvC3 doesn't even come anywhere close. Which is exactly why I'm asking the people who know what they're talking about. I don't know squat and I don't expect to become an expert just because I can put "melee sf4 sponsorship money" into google. But I'm a little skeptical of the assertions being made because they conflict with my own experience, and there are other potential explanations. For example, sponsors may prefer Melee not because it's more popular but because it's more stable (as evidenced by 15 years of relevance). Without more detailed information it's hard for me to accept these explanations offhand. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:35 TheYango wrote: I mean, there's Dolphin netplay but people tell me that's shit enough to not really be worth it. I've heard it's okay. Still a higher barrier to entry than a game on steam ha. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:37 AlterKot wrote: There are 2-3 SF4/MvC3 events every month, are Smash tournaments literally every week? My understanding is that yes, this is the case. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Alaric you're playing tonight right? You mean when it'll be 4 AM my time with me becoming physically dysfunctional around 2 AM for the whole week? Edit: that'll teach me not to check new page. 7 EST is something like 11 PM so I guess I'll be able to hang around for one or two hours if I don't have something else at that point. And if my comp doesn't freeze again, it did that thrice to me while launching LoL yesterday. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
Note - it's not necessarily my own opinion, but one I agree with. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On May 07 2015 01:59 Requizen wrote: Speaking of internet games, would anyone be intersted in learning/playing 40k on the internet? There's a program called VASSAL that lets you play tabletop games online and it has a Warhammer 40k module. From what I hear it can be a bit finnicky but is overall not bad. I know the startup cost is scary but the game is fun and I'd love to teach it to anyone interested. Yes but I don't have time for all the things I want to be doing right now, and I'm not going to start spending money on 40k | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 07 2015 02:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yes but I don't have time for all the things I want to be doing right now, and I'm not going to start spending money on 40k Sorry if it wasn't clear, VASSAL is free and doesn't require models, it's just a simulation program. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
(I do have a bunch of necron models taking the dust at my parents'. Not sure if I'll finish painting them one day.) | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 07 2015 02:02 Requizen wrote: Sorry if it wasn't clear, VASSAL is free and doesn't require models, it's just a simulation program. VASSAL may be free, but codices are still annoyingly expensive for something I'm not convincingly interested in. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 07 2015 02:03 Alaric wrote: You don't need money at all. You need time and patience though. I realised that as much as stuff like battle reports and theory and the likes are things I can enjoy, I'm just not ready to regularly spend 3 hours for a single game. (I do have a bunch of necron models taking the dust at my parents'. Not sure if I'll finish painting them one day.) Depends on the size. 500 point games are small and can finish in an hour or so (a bit longer for new people who are still learning). Me and the other people at my FLGS can run a 1500 game in about 2.5 hours depending on what armies and how long setup takes. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 07 2015 02:05 TheYango wrote: VASSAL may be free, but codices are still annoyingly expensive for something I'm not convincingly interested in. Anyone can PM me and I can show you where to yarrrr | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On May 07 2015 02:02 Requizen wrote: Sorry if it wasn't clear, VASSAL is free and doesn't require models, it's just a simulation program. First point still stands, but I'll keep it in mind. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 07 2015 02:07 Requizen wrote: Anyone can PM me and I can show you where to yarrrr Weren't you supposed to be trying SG as well?  | ||
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