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I can sing but not...I dunno...super well?
Essentially I have no fucking clue how to do a vibrato and I think the only way to learn would be to take singing lessons. It really frustrates me because I sang in acapella choirs for years and did musicals and stuff and while I was always decent, almost everybody else is just SO MUCH better than me. Maybe one day I will---as I get older my voice is only going to get deeper and more awesome apparently because of my range.
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friday friday gotta play hearthstone on friday
everybody's looking forward to the weekend weekend.
I'm concerned i won't sleep at all this weekend for having no valid reason to stop playing hearthstone and LoL
and by concerned i mean excited.
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studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments)
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On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments)
I'm like this guy. I also can't be fucked to practice instruments despite "playing" saxophone "well" for eight years or so.
On November 02 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 01:12 HazMat wrote:
Anyone here a good singer? Are you self taught? I can play the guitar pretty well by now but my singing is mediocre and there's like no point in knowing how to play the guitar without knowing how to sing. Very few chances to impress by rocking out to a buckethead solo. I grew up completely surrounded by music (my parents met in high school choir, and every one of my siblings and I play instruments), so I've been singing literally my whole life. I consider myself a decent singer, but am very self conscious about it, partly because my 2 older sisters are very good singers and my brother is the singer for his band. There are definitely a few tips I can give: -Sing constantly. I am singing all the time, almost any time I'm listening to music. A lot of the songs I choose to listen to are songs I am physically capable of singing along with. Sometimes I challenge myself with these songs (Sleeping with Sirens singer sings pretty high, I have worked to be able to hit these notes). -Recognize your range. Know your highest and lowest points. The more you push your range, the broader it can get (usually slowly). -Pay attention to your pitch. This is a big one and the reason a lot of people aren't that good at singing. Again, just singing to yourself and adjusting yourself so you hit the notes right one. Accuracy is really important - hitting a B flat every time you want to hit a B, and then adjusting doesn't sound good. You want to be able to hit the note you were shooting for perfectly every time. Honestly, it's just practice. If you have someone who can critique you from an unbiased perspective, that helps. Lessons really wouldn't necessarily be a waste of time if you can get value out of it.
What CAN'T dis kid do?
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On November 02 2013 02:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) I'm like this guy. I also can't be fucked to practice instruments despite "playing" saxophone "well" for eight years or so. Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2013 01:12 HazMat wrote:
Anyone here a good singer? Are you self taught? I can play the guitar pretty well by now but my singing is mediocre and there's like no point in knowing how to play the guitar without knowing how to sing. Very few chances to impress by rocking out to a buckethead solo. I grew up completely surrounded by music (my parents met in high school choir, and every one of my siblings and I play instruments), so I've been singing literally my whole life. I consider myself a decent singer, but am very self conscious about it, partly because my 2 older sisters are very good singers and my brother is the singer for his band. There are definitely a few tips I can give: -Sing constantly. I am singing all the time, almost any time I'm listening to music. A lot of the songs I choose to listen to are songs I am physically capable of singing along with. Sometimes I challenge myself with these songs (Sleeping with Sirens singer sings pretty high, I have worked to be able to hit these notes). -Recognize your range. Know your highest and lowest points. The more you push your range, the broader it can get (usually slowly). -Pay attention to your pitch. This is a big one and the reason a lot of people aren't that good at singing. Again, just singing to yourself and adjusting yourself so you hit the notes right one. Accuracy is really important - hitting a B flat every time you want to hit a B, and then adjusting doesn't sound good. You want to be able to hit the note you were shooting for perfectly every time. Honestly, it's just practice. If you have someone who can critique you from an unbiased perspective, that helps. Lessons really wouldn't necessarily be a waste of time if you can get value out of it. What CAN'T dis kid do?
Pick correctly into Kat
Carry xes and aura
Train a cat not to jump on the table
Draft Hearthstone
<3
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On November 02 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 02:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) I'm like this guy. I also can't be fucked to practice instruments despite "playing" saxophone "well" for eight years or so. On November 02 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2013 01:12 HazMat wrote:
Anyone here a good singer? Are you self taught? I can play the guitar pretty well by now but my singing is mediocre and there's like no point in knowing how to play the guitar without knowing how to sing. Very few chances to impress by rocking out to a buckethead solo. I grew up completely surrounded by music (my parents met in high school choir, and every one of my siblings and I play instruments), so I've been singing literally my whole life. I consider myself a decent singer, but am very self conscious about it, partly because my 2 older sisters are very good singers and my brother is the singer for his band. There are definitely a few tips I can give: -Sing constantly. I am singing all the time, almost any time I'm listening to music. A lot of the songs I choose to listen to are songs I am physically capable of singing along with. Sometimes I challenge myself with these songs (Sleeping with Sirens singer sings pretty high, I have worked to be able to hit these notes). -Recognize your range. Know your highest and lowest points. The more you push your range, the broader it can get (usually slowly). -Pay attention to your pitch. This is a big one and the reason a lot of people aren't that good at singing. Again, just singing to yourself and adjusting yourself so you hit the notes right one. Accuracy is really important - hitting a B flat every time you want to hit a B, and then adjusting doesn't sound good. You want to be able to hit the note you were shooting for perfectly every time. Honestly, it's just practice. If you have someone who can critique you from an unbiased perspective, that helps. Lessons really wouldn't necessarily be a waste of time if you can get value out of it. What CAN'T dis kid do? Pick correctly into Kat Carry xes and aura Train a cat not to jump on the table Draft Hearthstone <3
In fairness, no one can train a cat not to jump on a table.
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On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments)
Aspects for sure, I'd say Pitch is one of those things. Many people can't tell when they are sharp or flat, but the basic things like reading sheet music, counting, time, ect are pretty basic needs for understanding music.
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On November 02 2013 03:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:On November 02 2013 02:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) I'm like this guy. I also can't be fucked to practice instruments despite "playing" saxophone "well" for eight years or so. On November 02 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2013 01:12 HazMat wrote:
Anyone here a good singer? Are you self taught? I can play the guitar pretty well by now but my singing is mediocre and there's like no point in knowing how to play the guitar without knowing how to sing. Very few chances to impress by rocking out to a buckethead solo. I grew up completely surrounded by music (my parents met in high school choir, and every one of my siblings and I play instruments), so I've been singing literally my whole life. I consider myself a decent singer, but am very self conscious about it, partly because my 2 older sisters are very good singers and my brother is the singer for his band. There are definitely a few tips I can give: -Sing constantly. I am singing all the time, almost any time I'm listening to music. A lot of the songs I choose to listen to are songs I am physically capable of singing along with. Sometimes I challenge myself with these songs (Sleeping with Sirens singer sings pretty high, I have worked to be able to hit these notes). -Recognize your range. Know your highest and lowest points. The more you push your range, the broader it can get (usually slowly). -Pay attention to your pitch. This is a big one and the reason a lot of people aren't that good at singing. Again, just singing to yourself and adjusting yourself so you hit the notes right one. Accuracy is really important - hitting a B flat every time you want to hit a B, and then adjusting doesn't sound good. You want to be able to hit the note you were shooting for perfectly every time. Honestly, it's just practice. If you have someone who can critique you from an unbiased perspective, that helps. Lessons really wouldn't necessarily be a waste of time if you can get value out of it. What CAN'T dis kid do? Pick correctly into Kat Carry xes and aura Train a cat not to jump on the table Draft Hearthstone <3 In fairness, no one can train a cat not to jump on a table.
Half of our duo time is:
"Cat get down from there!"
"I hate this stupid fucking cat."
"Cat stop eating the microphone wtf."
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On November 02 2013 02:48 Nos- wrote:Sing whenever you can, pay attention to your pitch, make sure you're in tune. If you're gonna challenge yourself make sure to rest your voice afterwards. Singing is one of those things where you have to just constantly do it and pay attention to yourself to improve. If you can hold a steady tune you're going to sound pretty good already. I wish more of my friends would karaoke with me  . Everyone's always so embarrassed when really who gives a shit?
I believe there is a nightly karaoke event on TL street and Inhouse ave.
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On November 02 2013 03:06 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) Aspects for sure, I'd say Pitch is one of those things. Many people can't tell when they are sharp or flat, but the basic things like reading sheet music, counting, time, ect are pretty basic needs for understanding music.
pitch is, for most music, the most important aspect, so gg
i cant tell when im sharp or flat for example so im basically completely screwed. i had to rely on a tuner to tune my violin, to the mockery of my peers D: ~_~
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On November 02 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 02:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) I'm like this guy. I also can't be fucked to practice instruments despite "playing" saxophone "well" for eight years or so. On November 02 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2013 01:12 HazMat wrote:
Anyone here a good singer? Are you self taught? I can play the guitar pretty well by now but my singing is mediocre and there's like no point in knowing how to play the guitar without knowing how to sing. Very few chances to impress by rocking out to a buckethead solo. I grew up completely surrounded by music (my parents met in high school choir, and every one of my siblings and I play instruments), so I've been singing literally my whole life. I consider myself a decent singer, but am very self conscious about it, partly because my 2 older sisters are very good singers and my brother is the singer for his band. There are definitely a few tips I can give: -Sing constantly. I am singing all the time, almost any time I'm listening to music. A lot of the songs I choose to listen to are songs I am physically capable of singing along with. Sometimes I challenge myself with these songs (Sleeping with Sirens singer sings pretty high, I have worked to be able to hit these notes). -Recognize your range. Know your highest and lowest points. The more you push your range, the broader it can get (usually slowly). -Pay attention to your pitch. This is a big one and the reason a lot of people aren't that good at singing. Again, just singing to yourself and adjusting yourself so you hit the notes right one. Accuracy is really important - hitting a B flat every time you want to hit a B, and then adjusting doesn't sound good. You want to be able to hit the note you were shooting for perfectly every time. Honestly, it's just practice. If you have someone who can critique you from an unbiased perspective, that helps. Lessons really wouldn't necessarily be a waste of time if you can get value out of it. What CAN'T dis kid do? Pick correctly into Kat Carry xes and aura Train a cat not to jump on the table Draft Hearthstone <3
Aura did fine, xes was a lot more questionable. All the 1 man shockwave fights Soniv hit were wins and all the 3+ shockwaves were losses.
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On November 02 2013 03:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 03:06 Cixah wrote:On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) Aspects for sure, I'd say Pitch is one of those things. Many people can't tell when they are sharp or flat, but the basic things like reading sheet music, counting, time, ect are pretty basic needs for understanding music. pitch is, for most music, the most important aspect, so gg i cant tell when im sharp or flat for example so im basically completely screwed. i had to rely on a tuner to tune my violin, to the mockery of my peers D: ~_~
Are you talking about absolute pitch? Isn't that largely genetic? I can do relative pitch pretty well (like I can retune a guitar) but I rely on a tuner or my piano to get the first note.
I'm also trash at signing but good enough at other aspects of music to be able to self-diagnose how trash I am. I think I have terrible vocal chords because my talking voice is really grainy which means I can't even hold a note let alone adjust my pitch on the diatonic scale.
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On November 02 2013 03:06 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 03:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:On November 02 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:On November 02 2013 02:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) I'm like this guy. I also can't be fucked to practice instruments despite "playing" saxophone "well" for eight years or so. On November 02 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2013 01:12 HazMat wrote:
Anyone here a good singer? Are you self taught? I can play the guitar pretty well by now but my singing is mediocre and there's like no point in knowing how to play the guitar without knowing how to sing. Very few chances to impress by rocking out to a buckethead solo. I grew up completely surrounded by music (my parents met in high school choir, and every one of my siblings and I play instruments), so I've been singing literally my whole life. I consider myself a decent singer, but am very self conscious about it, partly because my 2 older sisters are very good singers and my brother is the singer for his band. There are definitely a few tips I can give: -Sing constantly. I am singing all the time, almost any time I'm listening to music. A lot of the songs I choose to listen to are songs I am physically capable of singing along with. Sometimes I challenge myself with these songs (Sleeping with Sirens singer sings pretty high, I have worked to be able to hit these notes). -Recognize your range. Know your highest and lowest points. The more you push your range, the broader it can get (usually slowly). -Pay attention to your pitch. This is a big one and the reason a lot of people aren't that good at singing. Again, just singing to yourself and adjusting yourself so you hit the notes right one. Accuracy is really important - hitting a B flat every time you want to hit a B, and then adjusting doesn't sound good. You want to be able to hit the note you were shooting for perfectly every time. Honestly, it's just practice. If you have someone who can critique you from an unbiased perspective, that helps. Lessons really wouldn't necessarily be a waste of time if you can get value out of it. What CAN'T dis kid do? Pick correctly into Kat Carry xes and aura Train a cat not to jump on the table Draft Hearthstone <3 In fairness, no one can train a cat not to jump on a table. Half of our duo time is: "Cat get down from there!" "I hate this stupid fucking cat." "Cat stop eating the microphone wtf."
I spend a good deal of time doing that when I stream as well. But no one watches my stream. ;P
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Perfect pitch is usually something you are born with, although you can train for it. On the other hand most musicians rely on relative pitch, and that's a much more obtainable skill through training.
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On November 02 2013 03:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:On November 02 2013 02:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:On November 02 2013 02:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
studies have suggested that there are definitely aspects of singing that are simply innate and can't be trained...
(im completely tone deaf and cant hold a pitch to save my life, despite my best efforts + years of instruments) I'm like this guy. I also can't be fucked to practice instruments despite "playing" saxophone "well" for eight years or so. On November 02 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2013 01:12 HazMat wrote:
Anyone here a good singer? Are you self taught? I can play the guitar pretty well by now but my singing is mediocre and there's like no point in knowing how to play the guitar without knowing how to sing. Very few chances to impress by rocking out to a buckethead solo. I grew up completely surrounded by music (my parents met in high school choir, and every one of my siblings and I play instruments), so I've been singing literally my whole life. I consider myself a decent singer, but am very self conscious about it, partly because my 2 older sisters are very good singers and my brother is the singer for his band. There are definitely a few tips I can give: -Sing constantly. I am singing all the time, almost any time I'm listening to music. A lot of the songs I choose to listen to are songs I am physically capable of singing along with. Sometimes I challenge myself with these songs (Sleeping with Sirens singer sings pretty high, I have worked to be able to hit these notes). -Recognize your range. Know your highest and lowest points. The more you push your range, the broader it can get (usually slowly). -Pay attention to your pitch. This is a big one and the reason a lot of people aren't that good at singing. Again, just singing to yourself and adjusting yourself so you hit the notes right one. Accuracy is really important - hitting a B flat every time you want to hit a B, and then adjusting doesn't sound good. You want to be able to hit the note you were shooting for perfectly every time. Honestly, it's just practice. If you have someone who can critique you from an unbiased perspective, that helps. Lessons really wouldn't necessarily be a waste of time if you can get value out of it. What CAN'T dis kid do? Pick correctly into Kat Carry xes and aura Train a cat not to jump on the table Draft Hearthstone <3 In fairness, no one can train a cat not to jump on a table.
But you can abuse it. After thrice where the cat jumps on the desk, realises she's going to slide into a wall 35cm farther and does her best to slow herself down before I pick her up, she stops trying.
(Instead she climbs on my lap then on the desk... welp.)
Karaoke isn't only about not getting embarassed, it's about not hurting other people when you happen to be really, really bad with a shitty voice. 
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I have never done Karaoke and would be far too mortified to ever attempt.
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I'm saying no one cares, you're not training to be a singer. Just down a few bottles of booze and let it rip and have some fun. There's nothing worse than having a karaoke party and some people just sit there for 6 hours.
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On November 02 2013 03:33 Nos- wrote:
I'm saying no one cares, you're not training to be a singer. Just down a few bottles of booze and let it rip and have some fun. There's nothing worse than having a karaoke party and some people just sit there for 6 hours.
There's your first misconception.
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Trying to seeing like Mathew Bellamy in Karaoke is the best thing in the world. His falsetto is ridiculous.
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On November 02 2013 02:48 Nos- wrote:Sing whenever you can, pay attention to your pitch, make sure you're in tune. If you're gonna challenge yourself make sure to rest your voice afterwards. Singing is one of those things where you have to just constantly do it and pay attention to yourself to improve. If you can hold a steady tune you're going to sound pretty good already. I wish more of my friends would karaoke with me . Everyone's always so embarrassed when really who gives a shit?
I don't get it either... and no one cares especially if you're drunk. "Rapping" to Eminem is a lot of fun.
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