Has best storytelling, best music, arguably best gameplay.
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Has best storytelling, best music, arguably best gameplay. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 24 2013 00:54 Ketara wrote: Tactics best FF, not really up for debate. Has best storytelling, best music, ftfy | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age. FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain. FU- Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such. I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff. Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background. What. And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
You know what final fantasy had the best voice acting of the entire series, an engaging and unique cast, and really interesting species, with the entire country having a deep and profound history? I THINK I KNOW WHICH ONE Fuck Vaan tho | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote: Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland. + Show Spoiler + Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age. FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain. FU- Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such. I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff. Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background. What. And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise. how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top pretty much the definition of strength tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote: how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top pretty much the definition of strength tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one Pathetic, definition 1: arousing pity, esp. through vulnerability or sadness. Alaric's whole point was that Cloud was a vulnerable and, therefore, more relateable/human character. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 24 2013 01:50 Cixah wrote: I really like the tactics games. All of them, A, A2, War of the Lions (I wish I had played it on the PS1 but i was a nintenkid.) As for the "best" FF? I like 9 the best. Something about trying so many times to get Excalibur 2 was fun. War of the Lions' retranslation made the game MUCH MUCH better. It provides an atmosphere that the original does not, imo. Gotta be skeptical of you putting A and A2 on the same level tho. O_O But yeah, FF9 easily best numbered FF. EASILY. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote: how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top pretty much the definition of strength tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one Aight now hold up dere. Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds. Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass". AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster. Tidas ain't weak bro, | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On October 24 2013 01:48 AsmodeusXI wrote: Pathetic, definition 1: arousing pity, esp. through vulnerability or sadness. Alaric's whole point was that Cloud was a vulnerable and, therefore, more relateable/human character. away with your dictionaries in amurica we only use pathetic to describe things we dont like and/or respect On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote: Aight now hold up dere. Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds. Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass". AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster. Tidas ain't weak bro, i grant the sports shit he was a beast. I abused the fuck out of him in blitzball the rest of the shit i did he didnt. he was just like teut come help me solve all this shit so i can chase some pussy | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Granted Squall was more dramatic when he jumped into deep space, but that's something else entirely. FF MCs be crazy over that poon. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On October 24 2013 01:58 Requizen wrote: Did you forget the part where he broke up a wedding by jumping out of a fucking airship? Granted Squall was more dramatic when he jumped into deep space, but that's something else entirely. FF MCs be crazy over that poon. he was just too scared of that pedophile getting with yuna | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 24 2013 01:59 Slayer91 wrote: he was just too scared of that pedophile getting with yuna Wouldn't you be? Seymour creepy as FKNUTS | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 24 2013 02:01 AsmodeusXI wrote: Wouldn't you be? Seymour creepy as FKNUTS AND HE DOESN'T DIE | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
But the entire rest of the cast was amazing and the story was great and the game was great. And then in the end Tidus dies and you're like HOORAY. Then they make a sequel where Tidus isn't dead and you're like WTF? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
nobody cares that tidus dies for himself yuna was like ready for 3rd base and he leaves and never calls men huh | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Also the dancing FMV when you meet Riona is hilariously awkward, to date one of my favorite FF moments. | ||
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