Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 368

On October 24 2013 00:54 Ketara wrote:
Tactics best FF, not really up for debate.

Has best storytelling, best music, arguably best gameplay period.

On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:
Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland.
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FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain.
FU-
Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such.
I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff.

Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background.

What.

And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise.

On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:


how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck
manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit
been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top
pretty much the definition of strength

tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one

On October 24 2013 01:50 Cixah wrote:
I really like the tactics games. All of them, A, A2, War of the Lions (I wish I had played it on the PS1 but i was a nintenkid.) As for the "best" FF? I like 9 the best. Something about trying so many times to get Excalibur 2 was fun.

On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:


how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck
manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit
been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top
pretty much the definition of strength

tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one

On October 24 2013 01:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:


Pathetic, definition 1: arousing pity, esp. through vulnerability or sadness.

Alaric's whole point was that Cloud was a vulnerable and, therefore, more relateable/human character.

On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:

Aight now hold up dere.

Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds.

Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass".

AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster.

Tidas ain't weak bro,

On October 24 2013 01:58 Requizen wrote:
Did you forget the part where he broke up a wedding by jumping out of a fucking airship?

Granted Squall was more dramatic when he jumped into deep space, but that's something else entirely. FF MCs be crazy over that poon.

On October 24 2013 01:59 Slayer91 wrote:


he was just too scared of that pedophile getting with yuna

On October 24 2013 02:01 AsmodeusXI wrote:


Wouldn't you be? Seymour creepy as FKNUTS