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On October 24 2013 02:12 Sponkz wrote:I come in here and you guys talk about FF and don't even mention the first two games?  I have such a huge love for all the RPG games for NES/SNES. Breath of fire <3
SNES had best RPG games: Soul Blazer, Illusions of Gia, Terranigma, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Super Mario RPG
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On October 24 2013 02:25 Slayer91 wrote:
definitely+opinions is a strong combination
then again is there anyone who actually likes 13 LOL
I was going to say, "Don't worry, 13 being bad is not an opinion."
But then, I'm an objective arbiter of taste so y'all should just take my opinions as fact anyways.
On October 24 2013 02:27 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 02:12 Sponkz wrote:I come in here and you guys talk about FF and don't even mention the first two games? I have such a huge love for all the RPG games for NES/SNES. Breath of fire <3 SNES had best RPG games: Soul Blazer, Illusions of Gia, Terranigma, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Super Mario RPG
As good as these all are, I think that there are plenty of great games afterwards.
Vagrant Story, Persona 3 and 4, Skies of Arcadia, FFT (ofc) to name a few off the top of my head.
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On October 24 2013 02:27 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 02:12 Sponkz wrote:I come in here and you guys talk about FF and don't even mention the first two games? I have such a huge love for all the RPG games for NES/SNES. Breath of fire <3 SNES had best RPG games: Soul Blazer, Illusions of Gia, Terranigma, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Super Mario RPG
Yeah these were pretty much all better than the vast majority of post SNES stuff.
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On October 24 2013 02:26 Requizen wrote:
Also 8's supporting cast was awesome. Zell, Quistis, Irvine, Selphie were all pretty fucking cool yo.
I thought Zell and quistis were annoying. (but zell had his funny bits)
irvine and selphie were great though LOL
trains!
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I never played Skies of Arcadia.
I probably should. It has a pretty great name.
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Chrono trigger best game of all games. Vagrant story worst game.
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What was the last FF Square made before it merged with Enix?
It was 10, right? First Square-Enix one was 10-2?
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Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.
TWEWY is a really fun RPG.
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On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.
isnt sayin that considered a felony in a gaming forum
never played it myself yet tho
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On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.
TWEWY is a really fun RPG.
TWEWY is really good though.
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So I got my PAX East tickets - got lucky and managed to get 2 3-day passes before they sold out. Anyone else going/know if Riot's gonna have a huge presence there again?
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I never finished chrono trigger either, but I at least feel bad about it.
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On October 24 2013 01:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 00:54 Ketara wrote:
Tactics best FF, not really up for debate.
Has best storytelling, best music, arguably best gameplay period. ftfy
Really? Are we thinking of the same game here? Cause last I recalled, you can get experience for attacking your own guys in tactics.
On October 24 2013 02:15 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 02:14 Slayer91 wrote:On October 24 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
I always liked Squall. I occasionally wish I could use visual "..." to tell someone to fuck off, which is basically his role for like the first half of the game.
Also the dancing FMV when you meet Riona is hilariously awkward, to date one of my favorite FF moments. ... just means you stare at them until they leave it actually works Gunblade is also the coolest impractical weapon ever devised. At least top 5.
Not actually a fictional thing. There's a few in the medieval section of the Philadelphia Museum of Art. I geeked out hardcore when I saw them.+ Show Spoiler +Obviously, they didn't look as fancy.
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On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland. + Show Spoiler +Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age. FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain. FU- Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such. I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff. Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background. What. And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise. how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top pretty much the definition of strength tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one Aight now hold up dere. Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds. Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass". AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster. Tidas ain't weak bro,
Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post.
Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass.
On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.
TWEWY is a really fun RPG.
Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league.
Anyone play The Last of Us?
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On October 24 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland. + Show Spoiler +Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age. FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain. FU- Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such. I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff. Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background. What. And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise. how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top pretty much the definition of strength tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one Aight now hold up dere. Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds. Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass". AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster. Tidas ain't weak bro, Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post. Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass. Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.
TWEWY is a really fun RPG. Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league. Anyone play The Last of Us?
Still working on it. Slowly and excruciatingly (because of the heartstrings and terror). NO SPOILERS.
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TLOU is amazing in ways I can't really explain. Perhaps not the best story I've seen in all of gaming, it definitely ranks highly.
The last two "zones" are just... heavy isn't even a good enough word.
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On October 24 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
fite me bambi
Req we've fucking talked about this
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 24 2013 03:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland. + Show Spoiler +Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age. FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain. FU- Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such. I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff. Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background. What. And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise. how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top pretty much the definition of strength tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one Aight now hold up dere. Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds. Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass". AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster. Tidas ain't weak bro, Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post. Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass. On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.
TWEWY is a really fun RPG. Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league. Anyone play The Last of Us? Still working on it. Slowly and excruciatingly (because of the heartstrings and terror). NO SPOILERS.
MAN UP AND PLAY IT.
Save your feels for the end.
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On October 24 2013 03:21 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 03:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:On October 24 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland. + Show Spoiler +Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age. FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain. FU- Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such. I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff. Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background. What. And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise. how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top pretty much the definition of strength tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one Aight now hold up dere. Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds. Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass". AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster. Tidas ain't weak bro, Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post. Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass. On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.
TWEWY is a really fun RPG. Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league. Anyone play The Last of Us? Still working on it. Slowly and excruciatingly (because of the heartstrings and terror). NO SPOILERS. MAN UP AND PLAY IT. Save your feels for the end.
I'M GETTING THERE. I have to play it like... once a week with copious amounts of Pokemon in between to sleep at night.
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Going to chime in and say that Chrono Trigger was absolutely amazing. I never played it on the SNES, but I did play the DS version. And boy did I love it.
Also Last of Us is worth playing based on the ending alone. Though beating the snot out of everyone with melee was buckets of fun as well. And the nail grenades. Can't forget those.
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