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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 23 2013 17:27 GMT
#7381
On October 24 2013 02:12 Sponkz wrote:
I come in here and you guys talk about FF and don't even mention the first two games? I have such a huge love for all the RPG games for NES/SNES. Breath of fire <3

SNES had best RPG games: Soul Blazer, Illusions of Gia, Terranigma, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Super Mario RPG
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 17:30:14
October 23 2013 17:28 GMT
#7382
On October 24 2013 02:25 Slayer91 wrote:
definitely+opinions is a strong combination
then again is there anyone who actually likes 13 LOL


I was going to say, "Don't worry, 13 being bad is not an opinion."

But then, I'm an objective arbiter of taste so y'all should just take my opinions as fact anyways.

On October 24 2013 02:27 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 02:12 Sponkz wrote:
I come in here and you guys talk about FF and don't even mention the first two games? I have such a huge love for all the RPG games for NES/SNES. Breath of fire <3

SNES had best RPG games: Soul Blazer, Illusions of Gia, Terranigma, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Super Mario RPG


As good as these all are, I think that there are plenty of great games afterwards.

Vagrant Story, Persona 3 and 4, Skies of Arcadia, FFT (ofc) to name a few off the top of my head.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 23 2013 17:28 GMT
#7383
On October 24 2013 02:27 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 02:12 Sponkz wrote:
I come in here and you guys talk about FF and don't even mention the first two games? I have such a huge love for all the RPG games for NES/SNES. Breath of fire <3

SNES had best RPG games: Soul Blazer, Illusions of Gia, Terranigma, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Super Mario RPG


Yeah these were pretty much all better than the vast majority of post SNES stuff.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23465 Posts
October 23 2013 17:30 GMT
#7384
On October 24 2013 02:26 Requizen wrote:
Also 8's supporting cast was awesome. Zell, Quistis, Irvine, Selphie were all pretty fucking cool yo.


I thought Zell and quistis were annoying. (but zell had his funny bits)
irvine and selphie were great though LOL
trains!
aka Teutonica
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 17:31:53
October 23 2013 17:31 GMT
#7385
I never played Skies of Arcadia.

I probably should. It has a pretty great name.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 23 2013 17:32 GMT
#7386
Chrono trigger best game of all games. Vagrant story worst game.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 23 2013 17:33 GMT
#7387
What was the last FF Square made before it merged with Enix?

It was 10, right? First Square-Enix one was 10-2?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 23 2013 17:35 GMT
#7388
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.

TWEWY is a really fun RPG.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23465 Posts
October 23 2013 17:38 GMT
#7389
On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.


isnt sayin that considered a felony in a gaming forum
never played it myself yet tho
aka Teutonica
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 23 2013 17:38 GMT
#7390
On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.

TWEWY is a really fun RPG.




TWEWY is really good though.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 23 2013 18:04 GMT
#7391
So I got my PAX East tickets - got lucky and managed to get 2 3-day passes before they sold out. Anyone else going/know if Riot's gonna have a huge presence there again?
SUNSFANNED
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 23 2013 18:05 GMT
#7392
I never finished chrono trigger either, but I at least feel bad about it.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 23 2013 18:06 GMT
#7393
On October 24 2013 01:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 00:54 Ketara wrote:
Tactics best FF, not really up for debate.

Has best storytelling, best music, arguably best gameplay period.


ftfy

Really? Are we thinking of the same game here? Cause last I recalled, you can get experience for attacking your own guys in tactics.

On October 24 2013 02:15 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 02:14 Slayer91 wrote:
On October 24 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
I always liked Squall. I occasionally wish I could use visual "..." to tell someone to fuck off, which is basically his role for like the first half of the game.

Also the dancing FMV when you meet Riona is hilariously awkward, to date one of my favorite FF moments.


... just means you stare at them until they leave

it actually works

Gunblade is also the coolest impractical weapon ever devised. At least top 5.

Not actually a fictional thing. There's a few in the medieval section of the Philadelphia Museum of Art. I geeked out hardcore when I saw them.+ Show Spoiler +
Obviously, they didn't look as fancy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 18:16:00
October 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#7394
On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:
Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland.
+ Show Spoiler +
Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age.


FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain.
FU-
Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such.
I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff.

Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background.

What.

And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise.


how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck
manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit
been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top
pretty much the definition of strength

tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one

Aight now hold up dere.

Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds.

Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass".

AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster.

Tidas ain't weak bro,


Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post.

Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass.

On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.

TWEWY is a really fun RPG.


Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league.

Anyone play The Last of Us?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 18:17:35
October 23 2013 18:17 GMT
#7395
On October 24 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:
Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland.
+ Show Spoiler +
Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age.


FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain.
FU-
Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such.
I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff.

Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background.

What.

And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise.


how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck
manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit
been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top
pretty much the definition of strength

tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one

Aight now hold up dere.

Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds.

Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass".

AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster.

Tidas ain't weak bro,


Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post.

Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass.

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.

TWEWY is a really fun RPG.


Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league.

Anyone play The Last of Us?


Still working on it. Slowly and excruciatingly (because of the heartstrings and terror). NO SPOILERS.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 18:20:43
October 23 2013 18:20 GMT
#7396
TLOU is amazing in ways I can't really explain. Perhaps not the best story I've seen in all of gaming, it definitely ranks highly.

The last two "zones" are just... heavy isn't even a good enough word.
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 18:22:12
October 23 2013 18:21 GMT
#7397

On October 24 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
fite me bambi

Req we've fucking talked about this


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 23 2013 18:21 GMT
#7398
On October 24 2013 03:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:
Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland.
+ Show Spoiler +
Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age.


FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain.
FU-
Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such.
I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff.

Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background.

What.

And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise.


how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck
manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit
been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top
pretty much the definition of strength

tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one

Aight now hold up dere.

Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds.

Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass".

AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster.

Tidas ain't weak bro,


Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post.

Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass.

On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.

TWEWY is a really fun RPG.


Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league.

Anyone play The Last of Us?


Still working on it. Slowly and excruciatingly (because of the heartstrings and terror). NO SPOILERS.

MAN UP AND PLAY IT.

Save your feels for the end.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 23 2013 18:24 GMT
#7399
On October 24 2013 03:21 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 03:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 24 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:
On October 24 2013 01:17 Alaric wrote:
Yeah I mentioned FF V's system more for the planning and combo-ing you can do than the fights themselves (the planning stage is close to FFT, 'cept classes have no pre-requisites), and I talked about specific scenes over the whole story because, well... it's a crystals FF story. It's bland.
+ Show Spoiler +
Galuf's sacrifice and death still a powerful scene though. Well, as long as you remember the game's age.


FF VII had an excellent story for me while I believed most people were too busy fanboying over Sephiroth (I'd laugh at their tastes but I liked Vincent... eh, at least I got over it!) to realise Jenova was the one pulling the strings and using his legacy and impact to do her thing. A few months ago I checked the FF wiki's sources and the version of the story told in the spin-offs and it turned out I was the one who misinterpreted all along and Sephiroth is supposed to be that DBZ-esque cult-worthy archvillain.
FU-
Then of course you had legit points of the game, like how even though Cloud is supposed to overcome his issues and become that big guy the world needs by the end, there are these flashback scenes that depict him as an insecure and "weak" (didn't make SOLDIER, genetically vulnerable to Jenova cells, etc.) teenager/young adult, who ends up stealing the status and achievements of his dead friend to hide his failures and impress his entourage. He's not perfect or anything, he doesn't have "story" issues like moral dilemmas or a prophetised great destiny and such.
I actually liked that we had a pathetic protagonist for once, as we are revealed that up till now he was pulling a tough guy act rather than being dependable and stuff.

Then you get spin-off stuf like trying to give a tragic dimension to the Vincent/Lucrecia relationship, or turning Zack's end from trying to battle a handful of soldiers and getting shot as if with Tommy guns, then Cloud loses another screw and steals his identity, to bravely standing up against a whole platoon of several dozen soldiers all at once, survive the mercy shot long enough to hand his sword to Cloud by himself, telling him to inherit his legacy, then die with a vision of his gf in the sky and j-pop in the background.

What.

And yeah even though it's pretty linear both (or possibly all 3 depending how you play) sequences in Midgard are by far the best parts of the game setting-wise.


how the fuck is cloud pathetic what the fuck
manged to kill sephiroth before the genetic shit
been through a hell of a lot of shit emotionally and physically and came out on top
pretty much the definition of strength

tidus was a pretty weak character if you're looking for one

Aight now hold up dere.

Tidus was the best professional blitzball player in the world. That shit's like Water Polo, Soccer, Rugby, and fucking magic all mixed into one, probably the hardest sport ever conceived because you have to fucking swim faster than most people can run, completely underwater, and shoot a ball at hypersonic speeds.

Then, his whole fucking city gets eaten by Sin and Auron is just like "hey remember that one time you held a sword? Fight these monsters and jump off a building." Tidus isn't a trained solider, or a mercenary, or a pirate, he's just a swole as fuck athlete with a sword half the size of anyone else's (and eventually he uses one made of water and glass wtf) that just went "fuck it, might as well kick some ass".

AND THEN he forcibly makes himself a Guardian of one of the most powerful summoners in the world because fuck you he felt like entering the temple. He also more or less punched destiny in the face and solved his daddy issues by fighting a Texas sized monster.

Tidas ain't weak bro,


Dude, I think your posting elo just went to Plat from just this post.

Also, he had to kill his dad, basically sacrificed himself and his city to end the cycle of darkness, then comes back from the not-actually-existing (if you beat FFX2 100%). Coming back from death is easy, but coming-back-from-not-actually-existing is just badass.

On October 24 2013 02:35 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger was boring as fuck, I never even finished it.

TWEWY is a really fun RPG.


Chronotrigger is amazing. And now you're back to Wood league.

Anyone play The Last of Us?


Still working on it. Slowly and excruciatingly (because of the heartstrings and terror). NO SPOILERS.

MAN UP AND PLAY IT.

Save your feels for the end.


I'M GETTING THERE. I have to play it like... once a week with copious amounts of Pokemon in between to sleep at night.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
October 23 2013 18:25 GMT
#7400
Going to chime in and say that Chrono Trigger was absolutely amazing. I never played it on the SNES, but I did play the DS version. And boy did I love it.

Also Last of Us is worth playing based on the ending alone. Though beating the snot out of everyone with melee was buckets of fun as well. And the nail grenades. Can't forget those.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
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