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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
November 12 2013 19:55 GMT
#2841
On November 13 2013 03:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 15:19 Inschato wrote:
I appreciate the point someone made about people being more locked into their specific role. If people agree to one role (perhaps with exceptions for the plat/diamonds), that information can be used to form proper teams for more organized matches. That's not to say permanent teams but rather we can actually pick a team that has one of each role in it instead of the current method of first to join the lobby which often results in people not playing the role they actually play. I don't really have much faith in ability to properly organize something like this though. A few people would have to step and actually dedicate their time and effort to it (since it goes beyond just saying tl1/1 and "lol teams are balanced (jk jk) go go")... I'm certainly not the one to do that since I've only shown up a handful of times, don't really communicate very well, and don't have the time to spare consistently...... some publicly accessible information might be useful, like a google spreadsheet of people's preferred roles and skill level so that anyone can properly balance teams instead of just the few people in the know.

Also not sure how well the channel name for a day thing is really working out, it might be better to go back to specific times and perhaps not every day, to give it more focused time slots. But now that the end of season grind is over, this particular point may be null and void.


This would work all well and good, but there's not enough of us dedicated supports to make it work. Especially higher level supports, as I think the other dedicated supports are silver-gold range (and of course myself being bronze). Others can definitely do it, but their skill level decreases moderately when playing support over their other roles (2sang pls).


I wouldn't be surprised if a few plat+ players play support as their 2nd/3rd role, not ideal but it's definitely do-able.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 12 2013 20:54 GMT
#2842
Really? Because I found myself not getting to play support in quite a few of my games. (I main support, though to be honest I probably wasn't properly communicating that fact, like I mentioned I'm bad at communicating) (But yeah, I'm only gold so...)

Poll: What is your main role?

Mid (11)
 
35%

Jungle (8)
 
26%

Top (5)
 
16%

Support (4)
 
13%

ADC (3)
 
10%

31 total votes

Your vote: What is your main role?

(Vote): ADC
(Vote): Mid
(Vote): Top
(Vote): Jungle
(Vote): Support


Poll: What is your second role?

Support (10)
 
33%

Jungle (8)
 
27%

ADC (4)
 
13%

Top (4)
 
13%

Mid (2)
 
7%

Do not have one (2)
 
7%

30 total votes

Your vote: What is your second role?

(Vote): ADC
(Vote): Mid
(Vote): Top
(Vote): Jungle
(Vote): Support
(Vote): Do not have one


3.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 12 2013 21:32 GMT
#2843
On November 13 2013 04:55 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 03:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
On November 12 2013 15:19 Inschato wrote:
I appreciate the point someone made about people being more locked into their specific role. If people agree to one role (perhaps with exceptions for the plat/diamonds), that information can be used to form proper teams for more organized matches. That's not to say permanent teams but rather we can actually pick a team that has one of each role in it instead of the current method of first to join the lobby which often results in people not playing the role they actually play. I don't really have much faith in ability to properly organize something like this though. A few people would have to step and actually dedicate their time and effort to it (since it goes beyond just saying tl1/1 and "lol teams are balanced (jk jk) go go")... I'm certainly not the one to do that since I've only shown up a handful of times, don't really communicate very well, and don't have the time to spare consistently...... some publicly accessible information might be useful, like a google spreadsheet of people's preferred roles and skill level so that anyone can properly balance teams instead of just the few people in the know.

Also not sure how well the channel name for a day thing is really working out, it might be better to go back to specific times and perhaps not every day, to give it more focused time slots. But now that the end of season grind is over, this particular point may be null and void.


This would work all well and good, but there's not enough of us dedicated supports to make it work. Especially higher level supports, as I think the other dedicated supports are silver-gold range (and of course myself being bronze). Others can definitely do it, but their skill level decreases moderately when playing support over their other roles (2sang pls).


I wouldn't be surprised if a few plat+ players play support as their 2nd/3rd role, not ideal but it's definitely do-able.


preliminary results of the poll are proving you correct
TranslatorBaa!
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
November 12 2013 21:49 GMT
#2844
On November 12 2013 06:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 06:37 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Your perception is definitely skewed towards 5s since you have a regular group to play with, the vast majority of people don't. I wouldn't say spamming solo queue games is pointless either but again my perception is probably skewed in that area since I improved the most playing solo queue and never really played arranged 5s.

Also I think it's far easier to move from being "top solo queue player" -> "top team player" rather than the reverse (IE: Faker).


well lets be real here these in houses can help someone go from gold 5 to plat 3 but they're not gonna help anyone go from diamond 3 to challenger promo to lcs recruit

solo q and team play abilities are strongly correlated and there's no magical "good team player but bad at solo q" but thats no reason to completely disregard the team aspect of it, and if we have voice chat, why wouldnt we encourage people to use it...?


I WANT FROM GOLD5 TO DIA3 PROMO THIS SEASON, DONT RAIN ON MY LCS DREAMS.

but in all seriousness I stopped playing in the TL inhouses because I could only rarely get top lane and have little interest in adc/support/mid anymore. If people wanted to start up proper role picking I'd be down for sure. I'd love to learn and expand some picks beyond trynd/nasus/shen/jax.
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
November 12 2013 23:15 GMT
#2845
Games pls.
Stay positive!
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
November 12 2013 23:35 GMT
#2846
Channel pls
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 00:26:24
November 12 2013 23:47 GMT
#2847
On November 13 2013 08:35 Ethelis wrote:
Channel pls


Oh Neo did it.

Channel: FakerTakesAll

Game 1 is up, tl1/1 as usual. +2!
Stay positive!
iqvertigo
Profile Joined November 2013
United States2 Posts
November 13 2013 00:34 GMT
#2848
Registration
- Ingame name
IQVeRtiGo
- Rank and division
Gold V
- If you are a lowbie (Gold or below), include what position you would be interested in working on. (List two)
Mid/Top
- For each role, identify two champions you wish to improve on
Mid: Diana, Twisted Fate
Top: Tryndamere, Lee Sin
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 13 2013 00:37 GMT
#2849
i stream just call me roffles http://www.twitch.tv/carnivoroussheep
TranslatorBaa!
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
November 13 2013 00:42 GMT
#2850
twitch.tv/unkool18 purple team, ^ blue
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 13 2013 00:57 GMT
#2851
Thanks for streaming guys.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 13 2013 03:00 GMT
#2852
stream still going games still going
TranslatorBaa!
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
November 13 2013 05:29 GMT
#2853
Nov. 12 2013:

If anyone has some helpful analysis for any of the games, please write!

UnKool stream VOD (starts @ ~10:00)

[GAME 1]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Blue team struggled early due to generally weak lanes. Blue forced teamfights and pulled out a lengthy comeback. Pretty interesting game, worth a watch.

Purple teamfight execution was messy, but we talked about that in TS.

[GAME 2]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Tryndamere got huge, split push, blah blah blah. tis got yelled at in team select for picking Nami. He picked Janna. Got yelled at even more. Milo 1 kill, big feeder.

[GAME 3]

AFK EATING DINNER ???

[GAME 4]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I actually remember some details about this game. In no particular order: tis got yelled at for picking Vi. Some mumbo jumbo about her "knocking people out of Rumble AoE." tis picks Maokai. Gets yelled at even more. Pls, Maokai is a god.

Nocturne used his ult almost exclusively on top lane in the early-mid game. I'm not sure that this was the lane that should have been focused. Took a lot of HP/time from both Garen and Noc to bring Rumble down, and no real advantage was ever established despite the constant ganks.
Stay positive!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 13 2013 05:35 GMT
#2854
What I learned from inhouses today: Me and Milo lane is cancerous
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 13 2013 06:47 GMT
#2855
On November 13 2013 06:49 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 06:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 12 2013 06:37 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
Your perception is definitely skewed towards 5s since you have a regular group to play with, the vast majority of people don't. I wouldn't say spamming solo queue games is pointless either but again my perception is probably skewed in that area since I improved the most playing solo queue and never really played arranged 5s.

Also I think it's far easier to move from being "top solo queue player" -> "top team player" rather than the reverse (IE: Faker).


well lets be real here these in houses can help someone go from gold 5 to plat 3 but they're not gonna help anyone go from diamond 3 to challenger promo to lcs recruit

solo q and team play abilities are strongly correlated and there's no magical "good team player but bad at solo q" but thats no reason to completely disregard the team aspect of it, and if we have voice chat, why wouldnt we encourage people to use it...?


I WANT FROM GOLD5 TO DIA3 PROMO THIS SEASON, DONT RAIN ON MY LCS DREAMS.

but in all seriousness I stopped playing in the TL inhouses because I could only rarely get top lane and have little interest in adc/support/mid anymore. If people wanted to start up proper role picking I'd be down for sure. I'd love to learn and expand some picks beyond trynd/nasus/shen/jax.


It shouldn't have been difficult at ALL to get top lane simply by requesting it... Especially if you aren't already plat+
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 13 2013 07:01 GMT
#2856
On November 13 2013 14:35 MooMooMugi wrote:
What I learned from inhouses today: Me and Milo lane is cancerous

Pretty sure just you.
God Bless
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
November 13 2013 07:02 GMT
#2857
On November 13 2013 03:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 15:19 Inschato wrote:
I appreciate the point someone made about people being more locked into their specific role. If people agree to one role (perhaps with exceptions for the plat/diamonds), that information can be used to form proper teams for more organized matches. That's not to say permanent teams but rather we can actually pick a team that has one of each role in it instead of the current method of first to join the lobby which often results in people not playing the role they actually play. I don't really have much faith in ability to properly organize something like this though. A few people would have to step and actually dedicate their time and effort to it (since it goes beyond just saying tl1/1 and "lol teams are balanced (jk jk) go go")... I'm certainly not the one to do that since I've only shown up a handful of times, don't really communicate very well, and don't have the time to spare consistently...... some publicly accessible information might be useful, like a google spreadsheet of people's preferred roles and skill level so that anyone can properly balance teams instead of just the few people in the know.

Also not sure how well the channel name for a day thing is really working out, it might be better to go back to specific times and perhaps not every day, to give it more focused time slots. But now that the end of season grind is over, this particular point may be null and void.


This would work all well and good, but there's not enough of us dedicated supports to make it work. Especially higher level supports, as I think the other dedicated supports are silver-gold range (and of course myself being bronze). Others can definitely do it, but their skill level decreases moderately when playing support over their other roles (2sang pls).

I bet i can out support ya Z :D
+ Show Spoiler +
Shots Fired
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 13 2013 07:28 GMT
#2858
On November 13 2013 16:02 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 03:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
On November 12 2013 15:19 Inschato wrote:
I appreciate the point someone made about people being more locked into their specific role. If people agree to one role (perhaps with exceptions for the plat/diamonds), that information can be used to form proper teams for more organized matches. That's not to say permanent teams but rather we can actually pick a team that has one of each role in it instead of the current method of first to join the lobby which often results in people not playing the role they actually play. I don't really have much faith in ability to properly organize something like this though. A few people would have to step and actually dedicate their time and effort to it (since it goes beyond just saying tl1/1 and "lol teams are balanced (jk jk) go go")... I'm certainly not the one to do that since I've only shown up a handful of times, don't really communicate very well, and don't have the time to spare consistently...... some publicly accessible information might be useful, like a google spreadsheet of people's preferred roles and skill level so that anyone can properly balance teams instead of just the few people in the know.

Also not sure how well the channel name for a day thing is really working out, it might be better to go back to specific times and perhaps not every day, to give it more focused time slots. But now that the end of season grind is over, this particular point may be null and void.


This would work all well and good, but there's not enough of us dedicated supports to make it work. Especially higher level supports, as I think the other dedicated supports are silver-gold range (and of course myself being bronze). Others can definitely do it, but their skill level decreases moderately when playing support over their other roles (2sang pls).

I bet i can out support ya Z :D
+ Show Spoiler +
Shots Fired

Doesn't take much tbh.
God Bless
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 13 2013 15:09 GMT
#2859
Nice to see IHs up and running again.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 13 2013 16:39 GMT
#2860
On November 13 2013 16:28 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 16:02 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 13 2013 03:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
On November 12 2013 15:19 Inschato wrote:
I appreciate the point someone made about people being more locked into their specific role. If people agree to one role (perhaps with exceptions for the plat/diamonds), that information can be used to form proper teams for more organized matches. That's not to say permanent teams but rather we can actually pick a team that has one of each role in it instead of the current method of first to join the lobby which often results in people not playing the role they actually play. I don't really have much faith in ability to properly organize something like this though. A few people would have to step and actually dedicate their time and effort to it (since it goes beyond just saying tl1/1 and "lol teams are balanced (jk jk) go go")... I'm certainly not the one to do that since I've only shown up a handful of times, don't really communicate very well, and don't have the time to spare consistently...... some publicly accessible information might be useful, like a google spreadsheet of people's preferred roles and skill level so that anyone can properly balance teams instead of just the few people in the know.

Also not sure how well the channel name for a day thing is really working out, it might be better to go back to specific times and perhaps not every day, to give it more focused time slots. But now that the end of season grind is over, this particular point may be null and void.


This would work all well and good, but there's not enough of us dedicated supports to make it work. Especially higher level supports, as I think the other dedicated supports are silver-gold range (and of course myself being bronze). Others can definitely do it, but their skill level decreases moderately when playing support over their other roles (2sang pls).

I bet i can out support ya Z :D
+ Show Spoiler +
Shots Fired

Doesn't take much tbh.


Amen. I'm the worst support NA, but probably one of the better bronzes. I have a 100% winrate vs Roffles in lane though, something that I have hanging on my wall right next to my middle school diploma.
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