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New inhouse logistics TBD. In the meantime, feel free to hang out in the league general discord https://discord.gg/0lCEKA3jUEFxERzd ("add lol" in #welcome) and get some ad-hoc games going!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 12 2013 00:29 GMT
#2821
10/10 would hit up 5s
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 12 2013 00:43 GMT
#2822
Are we talking about ranked 5s? Or having a couple of pre-determined teams practice against each other over and over. Because I'd be down for ranked. Mind you, since getting more hours at work I can pretty much only play after midnight EST, but the will is there.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 01:10:42
November 12 2013 01:06 GMT
#2823
On November 12 2013 09:29 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
10/10 would hit up 5s


Should make a poll somewhere.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 12 2013 01:46 GMT
#2824
Poll: 5s or Pickup IHs

Pickup Games (10)
 
53%

5s (9)
 
47%

19 total votes

Your vote: 5s or Pickup IHs

(Vote): 5s
(Vote): Pickup Games

God Bless
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 12 2013 01:48 GMT
#2825
A couple points...

1. Polls are kinda silly, since it's much easier to click "5s" than it is to actually go find 5
2. This frames it as an either/or kinda thing when that's not at all what I'm suggesting =O
TranslatorBaa!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 01:49:56
November 12 2013 01:49 GMT
#2826
On November 12 2013 10:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
A couple points...

1. Polls are kinda silly, since it's much easier to click "5s" than it is to actually go find 5
2. This frames it as an either/or kinda thing when that's not at all what I'm suggesting =O

Gauging interest. Plz stay out of these conversations Kupo Jr.
God Bless
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 12 2013 01:51 GMT
#2827
On November 12 2013 10:49 Roffles wrote:
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On November 12 2013 10:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
A couple points...

1. Polls are kinda silly, since it's much easier to click "5s" than it is to actually go find 5
2. This frames it as an either/or kinda thing when that's not at all what I'm suggesting =O

Gauging interest. Plz stay out of these conversations Kupo Jr.


ok now im actually offended thats going too far
TranslatorBaa!
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 12 2013 01:53 GMT
#2828
Again I ask, are we talking about ranked 5s?
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 12 2013 01:55 GMT
#2829
Either ranked 5s or stable 5s teams over mix and match teams.
God Bless
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 12 2013 01:58 GMT
#2830
Ah so just *a* team of 5 players, regardless of queue method.

Ya, I'm in if scheduling can work out. Especially if Roffles is there to tell me how bad I am and help me get better like last time.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 12 2013 02:02 GMT
#2831
I love you two
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Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 02:24:46
November 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#2832
obviously i can only speak for myself, but i would participate in premade 5s (especially if players of similar skill level are sorted into the same team) and suspect that some other users and lurkers who aren't currently active in pickup IHs would as well

i don't know if expanding the userbase is part of the goal 'to forge a stronger TL LoL community', but i think that inhouse support for setting up 'serious' premade groups is a draw factor that TL is well positioned to lead in

maybe this isn't desirable from the perspective of everyone currently playing in the IHs, but the two setups aren't mutually exclusive and might even benefit from the other's existence

i hadn't been caught up on this thread (specifically page 139) when i first wrote this post, and although i understand why premades aren't feasible at the moment i'll be hopeful for the future
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 12 2013 04:07 GMT
#2833
Legit 5's teams and inhouses don't mix well, TL has tried it before multiple times.

There are multiple reasons, but the one which might be the most important for these inhouses specifically, is that set teams actually accomplish pretty much the exact opposite of bringing a community together. Once the teams are set, it becomes about the teams individually, even if they are using each other for practice for some period of time. I'm not saying there will instantly be crazy rivalries and people getting pissed off and fighting, but it's 100% natural to care more about your team and your team's improvement or enjoyment(or both).

It also minimizes the amount of people you play with, because you are always playing with your team vs 5 other people, simple math, which is only further compounded when you consider that your team out of necessity will be formed out of a subset of the people who play at the same time you do, which is already a factor in scheduling these inhouses(the players cycle at different times of the night, different days of the week).

If you want to breed community with 5s as a cornerstone it almost has to be with small tourneys or mini-leagues which will diversify who everyone plays with so players still feel like they are more connected to the TL group as a whole.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
November 12 2013 04:50 GMT
#2834
I more or less agree with what Red said. Personally I voted for pickup 5's but going back to the format of not necessarily straight balancing but letting the chips fall as they are and having after games discussions after.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 12 2013 05:00 GMT
#2835
I agree with Kissblade, and which is why I also voted pick up games. I didn't have an issues with just balancing teams as well as possible, discussing the game afterwards, and the moving onto the next game.
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Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 12 2013 06:19 GMT
#2836
I appreciate the point someone made about people being more locked into their specific role. If people agree to one role (perhaps with exceptions for the plat/diamonds), that information can be used to form proper teams for more organized matches. That's not to say permanent teams but rather we can actually pick a team that has one of each role in it instead of the current method of first to join the lobby which often results in people not playing the role they actually play. I don't really have much faith in ability to properly organize something like this though. A few people would have to step and actually dedicate their time and effort to it (since it goes beyond just saying tl1/1 and "lol teams are balanced (jk jk) go go")... I'm certainly not the one to do that since I've only shown up a handful of times, don't really communicate very well, and don't have the time to spare consistently...... some publicly accessible information might be useful, like a google spreadsheet of people's preferred roles and skill level so that anyone can properly balance teams instead of just the few people in the know.

Also not sure how well the channel name for a day thing is really working out, it might be better to go back to specific times and perhaps not every day, to give it more focused time slots. But now that the end of season grind is over, this particular point may be null and void.
3.
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
November 12 2013 08:13 GMT
#2837
Success story: I pretty much only jungle Vi and Maokai during inhaus. Finished season 3 with a combined record of 8-2 on them in solo Q. I've also gone from bronze last season to gold this season.

Crowning achievement: Last ranked SR match I played during season 3. I rarely play ranked, and never solo Q, so this was a nice way to end things.

Enemy team was two plat 5s and three gold 1s. I'm gold 5, four teammates were gold 1. Counter ganked top for first blood and red buff onto Renekton, lane over. Converged on enemy blue (he ganked at level 2 wut) and got Morgana a double kill and blue buff (and basically made Lee useless). Did something bot lane and got Varus huge. Felt really good to make plays at the gold/plat level. Not sure what I was doing for the other 14 kills, but I guess it didn't matter.

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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 12 2013 08:15 GMT
#2838
On November 12 2013 17:13 remedium wrote:
Success story: I pretty much only jungle Vi and Maokai during inhaus. Finished season 3 with a combined record of 8-2 on them in solo Q. I've also gone from bronze last season to gold this season.

Crowning achievement: Last ranked SR match I played during season 3. I rarely play ranked, and never solo Q, so this was a nice way to end things.

Enemy team was two plat 5s and three gold 1s. I'm gold 5, four teammates were gold 1. Counter ganked top for first blood and red buff onto Renekton, lane over. Converged on enemy blue (he ganked at level 2 wut) and got Morgana a double kill and blue buff (and basically made Lee useless). Did something bot lane and got Varus huge. Felt really good to make plays at the gold/plat level. Not sure what I was doing for the other 14 kills, but I guess it didn't matter.

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But are you, in fact, the tits?
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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
November 12 2013 08:27 GMT
#2839
Always.
Stay positive!
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 12 2013 18:01 GMT
#2840
On November 12 2013 15:19 Inschato wrote:
I appreciate the point someone made about people being more locked into their specific role. If people agree to one role (perhaps with exceptions for the plat/diamonds), that information can be used to form proper teams for more organized matches. That's not to say permanent teams but rather we can actually pick a team that has one of each role in it instead of the current method of first to join the lobby which often results in people not playing the role they actually play. I don't really have much faith in ability to properly organize something like this though. A few people would have to step and actually dedicate their time and effort to it (since it goes beyond just saying tl1/1 and "lol teams are balanced (jk jk) go go")... I'm certainly not the one to do that since I've only shown up a handful of times, don't really communicate very well, and don't have the time to spare consistently...... some publicly accessible information might be useful, like a google spreadsheet of people's preferred roles and skill level so that anyone can properly balance teams instead of just the few people in the know.

Also not sure how well the channel name for a day thing is really working out, it might be better to go back to specific times and perhaps not every day, to give it more focused time slots. But now that the end of season grind is over, this particular point may be null and void.


This would work all well and good, but there's not enough of us dedicated supports to make it work. Especially higher level supports, as I think the other dedicated supports are silver-gold range (and of course myself being bronze). Others can definitely do it, but their skill level decreases moderately when playing support over their other roles (2sang pls).
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