The Shikyo Memorial for QQ Therapy - Page 63

On November 09 2011 23:37 gnutz wrote:
How can the people in duo queue being worse than the players in solo while duo SHOULD raise the MM ELO?

On November 09 2011 23:53 byFd wrote:


solo queue is no difference to duo queue besides that one of the douches is your mate :D

On November 10 2011 06:28 Befree wrote:
Summary: Complaining about teammates makes no sense, lower skilled players benefit you, and players, who whine about teammates, show a fundamental lack of intelligence while players who make mistakes only show a lack of knowledge on a specific subject which is not as applicable to other parts of their life (LoL/DotA).

I was really hoping for this thread to be going in a different direction, but sadly it still seems to be stupidity prevailing. I'll try to explain my viewpoint on this subject:

I can't understand complaining about teammates making mistakes. I don't know what causes people to do it and I certainly don't know what it does for them. In such a casual setting like a free-to-play video game, there's no reason to not expect vast amounts of ignorance and mistakes. How could you imagine it any other way? You'd have to be crazy to even expect the possibility of there not being tons of mistakes. So what sense does it make to complain about them when they happen? Do you complain about a coin flip when you predict heads and it is tails? Perhaps those irrational among us do, but any rational person would understand the significant probability of tails to begin with and would realize there is no reason to complain about it when it happens even if it isn't what you wanted.

And even if you have irrational expectations on how large groups of people should be able to play a game, what difference does it make if they don't live up to them? These other low skilled players are not only on your team but they're on the opponents team. In fact, only 4 are on your team and 5 on the opponents team. How is their low skill relevant when they are on both sides? It is actually only relevant in that it gives YOU an advantage.

Let's view players in a game by their probability to be good as opposed to bad. Lets assume you have a 100% chance to be good. Now if half of the other players out there are bad, each player will have a 50% chance to be good. So the match up will be:
100%, 50%, 50%, 50%, 50% vs. 50%, 50%, 50%, 50%, 50%
Clearly your team has a higher probability of winning. And over time, you're going to win more games. That isn't to say that every single game you will win because that would be nonsensical and isn't how probability/the world works. The irrelevance of the skill of a pool of players in a solo matchmaking setting seems obvious enough, but I figured I'd give an explanation anyways.

These are just two of the reasons why it is ridiculous to complain about teammates, but I think they're enough to explain my point.

The irrational, simple-minded players who will so foolishly whine and cry about their teammates like stupid children will always annoy me infinitely more than those players who make mistakes in games. The mistakes of players in the game are not important. Usually they just come down to the player's lack of effort and ignorance on the video game. Not really a problem and it doesn't really say much about them or their intelligence in general.

But the people who will so stupidly and irrationally complain.. Now that says something more about them. Their mistakes of logic and reasoning are much more fundamental mistakes. These kinds of mistakes imply a certain fundamental lack of intelligence and ability to reason. What drives them to irrationally whine will also drive them to other irrational conclusions through life.