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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 01 2015 15:36 GMT
#12361
On March 02 2015 00:31 M2 wrote:
Can anyone think of something more useless than ap ezreal, that on paper looks playable, but actually is not?


Elise.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 02 2015 02:32 GMT
#12362
On March 02 2015 00:31 M2 wrote:
Can anyone think of something more useless than ap ezreal, that on paper looks playable, but actually is not?

any champion with a <45% win rate
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 02 2015 04:28 GMT
#12363
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 02 2015 10:29 GMT
#12364
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO ADD AN ANIMATION FOR IF LOADING SCREEN IS WORKING SRSLY I DONT UNDERSTAND
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 02 2015 10:56 GMT
#12365
This weekend I became toxic. I usually don't rage in this game unless someone on my team is being a dick to me, but this weekend I came to understand the dick's point of view. All weekend I went into games as toplane, either winning lane or drawing even, and then when lanephase ends my team is 0-20. Not exaggerating, this was about three out of four games. I started keeping track on Sunday. So, I went from Diamond promos down to plat 2.

The best thing about it was that when the 1/4 games came along that weren't autoloss I lost them anyway because I was so angry going into it and I made retarded plays. What goes around comes around I guess.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 02 2015 17:29 GMT
#12366
On March 02 2015 19:56 Osmoses wrote:
This weekend I became toxic. I usually don't rage in this game unless someone on my team is being a dick to me, but this weekend I came to understand the dick's point of view. All weekend I went into games as toplane, either winning lane or drawing even, and then when lanephase ends my team is 0-20. Not exaggerating, this was about three out of four games. I started keeping track on Sunday. So, I went from Diamond promos down to plat 2.

The best thing about it was that when the 1/4 games came along that weren't autoloss I lost them anyway because I was so angry going into it and I made retarded plays. What goes around comes around I guess.

I'm relatively toxic myself but I limit it mostly to champion select. I'll do stuff like threaten to afk if I don't get a role or stuff like "it's ok, we can 3man bot np." I also afk in response to other players being toxic (ie if someone decides to feed from level 1, I just leave the game since that shit isn't worth my time, why play a video game if there's no fun to be had). If I've left a game relatively recently, to avoid getting flagged as a leaver I just kill jungle creeps for xp while alt-tabbing. Normally, I think i end up leaving 1/50 games or so, and I feel like I win more than a lot of other players simply because I don't tryhard/rage at the game. Just for the record, I've never been banned for anything outside of elo boosting.

I know for a fact plat 1 is the most toxic of all elos. It's the least fun elo to play/boost through since:
1. You have all the plat 1 tryhards trying to get into diamond and as a result these people are extremely toxic if you don't go with the meta or if you mess up. These people also think they are as good as faker despite the fact they're still platinum
2. You have the fresh diamond 5s who either bought their elo/account or don't give a shit cuz they are diamond and there's almost no risk of getting demoted. Bonus points when people go "Oh, plat 1 promos to diamond? Aw jeez, I'm starting to lag out of nowhere." It is less of a problem when boosting/smurfing since you'll be playing with mid-diamonds in your promos due to higher mmr, but you still run into this cesspool in plat 3 or so. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with people giving 0 fucks (see: every masters/challenger game that isn't a promo) since they are fun games, but if you're in it to get promoted, having that top mundo might be suboptimal.

The best bet to getting out of plat is to have a high elo friend with a gold account and duo for promos. Back when I boosted with a couple of high elo friends, we had these accounts we called "elo jetpacks" that were bronze/silver accounts that we were also boosting. Basically, you'd use these jetpacks to make plat 1 promos to diamond a complete joke since you were playing against low plats instead of the super toxic elo since the jetpack accounts were literally terrible mmr. It was killing two birds with one stone: the plat account would get to diamond very easily, and the elo jetpack gain mmr extremely quickly since the "bronze" players were now able to consistently win vs plat opponents. You can't do this with bronze accounts anymore due to the duo restriction, but it can still be done with a player with a gold smurf (most high elo players should have one)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 18:50:52
March 02 2015 18:28 GMT
#12367
On March 02 2015 19:29 nafta wrote:
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO ADD AN ANIMATION FOR IF LOADING SCREEN IS WORKING SRSLY I DONT UNDERSTAND


When everyone's on 100% for like a minute and you're sat wondering if you crashed or it's just slow. Riot don't want you to feel certain.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 02 2015 20:41 GMT
#12368
i usually flash up youtube or something and see if my ping changes
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
March 02 2015 21:12 GMT
#12369
On March 03 2015 02:29 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 19:56 Osmoses wrote:
This weekend I became toxic. I usually don't rage in this game unless someone on my team is being a dick to me, but this weekend I came to understand the dick's point of view. All weekend I went into games as toplane, either winning lane or drawing even, and then when lanephase ends my team is 0-20. Not exaggerating, this was about three out of four games. I started keeping track on Sunday. So, I went from Diamond promos down to plat 2.

The best thing about it was that when the 1/4 games came along that weren't autoloss I lost them anyway because I was so angry going into it and I made retarded plays. What goes around comes around I guess.

I'm relatively toxic myself but I limit it mostly to champion select. I'll do stuff like threaten to afk if I don't get a role or stuff like "it's ok, we can 3man bot np." I also afk in response to other players being toxic (ie if someone decides to feed from level 1, I just leave the game since that shit isn't worth my time, why play a video game if there's no fun to be had). If I've left a game relatively recently, to avoid getting flagged as a leaver I just kill jungle creeps for xp while alt-tabbing. Normally, I think i end up leaving 1/50 games or so, and I feel like I win more than a lot of other players simply because I don't tryhard/rage at the game. Just for the record, I've never been banned for anything outside of elo boosting.

I know for a fact plat 1 is the most toxic of all elos. It's the least fun elo to play/boost through since:
1. You have all the plat 1 tryhards trying to get into diamond and as a result these people are extremely toxic if you don't go with the meta or if you mess up. These people also think they are as good as faker despite the fact they're still platinum
2. You have the fresh diamond 5s who either bought their elo/account or don't give a shit cuz they are diamond and there's almost no risk of getting demoted. Bonus points when people go "Oh, plat 1 promos to diamond? Aw jeez, I'm starting to lag out of nowhere." It is less of a problem when boosting/smurfing since you'll be playing with mid-diamonds in your promos due to higher mmr, but you still run into this cesspool in plat 3 or so. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with people giving 0 fucks (see: every masters/challenger game that isn't a promo) since they are fun games, but if you're in it to get promoted, having that top mundo might be suboptimal.

The best bet to getting out of plat is to have a high elo friend with a gold account and duo for promos. Back when I boosted with a couple of high elo friends, we had these accounts we called "elo jetpacks" that were bronze/silver accounts that we were also boosting. Basically, you'd use these jetpacks to make plat 1 promos to diamond a complete joke since you were playing against low plats instead of the super toxic elo since the jetpack accounts were literally terrible mmr. It was killing two birds with one stone: the plat account would get to diamond very easily, and the elo jetpack gain mmr extremely quickly since the "bronze" players were now able to consistently win vs plat opponents. You can't do this with bronze accounts anymore due to the duo restriction, but it can still be done with a player with a gold smurf (most high elo players should have one)


wut? dude you are toxic
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 03 2015 03:44 GMT
#12370
4 years later, Shaco is still my most hated champion in the game.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 09:34:12
March 03 2015 09:31 GMT
#12371
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 03 2015 15:08 GMT
#12372
On March 03 2015 12:44 Amui wrote:
4 years later, Shaco is still my most hated champion in the game.


My favourite thing is when I'm jungling and I see an enemy Shaco with ignite and smite. I wonder what's going to happen at my buffs this game, oh look you're invading me.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 17:01:32
March 03 2015 17:00 GMT
#12373
Guys, do you win games where you are not 15/2, 12/1, 20/4 etc. is it theoretically possible to win a game where you are something disgraceful like 6/6/1, 6/5/10, 8/5/12 ? I've read somewhere that this was supposed to be a team game where every player has a set of specific responsibilities and its not mandatory for you to participate in every dragon, turret, kill or non trinket ward placed on the map. Some of those things can be done by other team members. Can anyone confirm?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 03 2015 17:45 GMT
#12374
On March 04 2015 02:00 M2 wrote:
Guys, do you win games where you are not 15/2, 12/1, 20/4 etc. is it theoretically possible to win a game where you are something disgraceful like 6/6/1, 6/5/10, 8/5/12 ? I've read somewhere that this was supposed to be a team game where every player has a set of specific responsibilities and its not mandatory for you to participate in every dragon, turret, kill or non trinket ward placed on the map. Some of those things can be done by other team members. Can anyone confirm?

The trick is to not be the team bitch

Michael Jordan put it best: "There is no 'i' in team, but there is in 'win'"
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 03 2015 18:09 GMT
#12375
On March 02 2015 00:36 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 00:31 M2 wrote:
Can anyone think of something more useless than ap ezreal, that on paper looks playable, but actually is not?


Elise.

? Elise pretty decent still in 5.4.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 04 2015 05:14 GMT
#12376
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scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 04:24:21
March 05 2015 04:20 GMT
#12377
dear cait,

1) you have poke that can work through minions, an escape,and the longest fucking AA range in laning phase. you have zero excuse for eating 5 morg binds during lane while not all-inning, resulting in you going 0/4
2) if you cannot avoid morg bind, you are not allowed to blame the support who ate a grand total of 1 bind during lane despite being melee with relic shield or the jungler who "didn't gank bot enough"
3) if you really are 0/4 during lane, 30ish CS behind, and one tower down, you do not farm in the middle of lane by yourself against a 4/0 ADC. that is how you became 0/7
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 06 2015 02:47 GMT
#12378
Jax, you should know by P1 that chasing a blitz+syndra under a turret is a bad plan. Taking a flash is already enough. You also shouldn't facecheck a bush after you've just seen 5 people in that area, especially alone.

How to lose lane from 0/0 even CS to getting crushed because the other guy gets 2 completely free kills.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Faladran
Profile Joined January 2015
United States18 Posts
March 06 2015 06:03 GMT
#12379
On March 04 2015 02:00 M2 wrote:
Guys, do you win games where you are not 15/2, 12/1, 20/4 etc. is it theoretically possible to win a game where you are something disgraceful like 6/6/1, 6/5/10, 8/5/12 ? I've read somewhere that this was supposed to be a team game where every player has a set of specific responsibilities and its not mandatory for you to participate in every dragon, turret, kill or non trinket ward placed on the map. Some of those things can be done by other team members. Can anyone confirm?

Yeah, I win games with terrible scores all the time. KDA is pretty overrated; while good players will generally have good stats, your score isn't necessarily a good indicator of your contribution.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 06 2015 08:20 GMT
#12380
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