• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:23
CET 10:23
KST 18:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League76Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Hands of Pluto Recent recommended BW games Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Bot on ladder BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8249 users

The Shikyo Memorial for QQ Therapy - Page 494

Forum Index > The Shopkeeper′s Inn
Post a Reply
Prev 1 492 493 494 495 496 687 Next
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 28 2013 21:24 GMT
#9861
My adc started intentional feeding because me, nasus jungle, taxed 2 big waves from him. Fuck you, OK?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 22:59:57
September 28 2013 22:58 GMT
#9862
On September 29 2013 03:58 imanoobcs wrote:
[image loading]

Silver Elo is Worst Elo, nothing you can do and elo hell truly exists.

Nah elo hell doesnt exist. I would you suggest focusing on objectives like Edit:Meant dragon and pushing turrets.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
September 29 2013 08:51 GMT
#9863
On September 29 2013 07:58 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 03:58 imanoobcs wrote:
[image loading]

Silver Elo is Worst Elo, nothing you can do and elo hell truly exists.

Nah elo hell doesnt exist,I would you suggest focusing on objectives like Edit:Meant dragon and pushing turrets.

Let me tell you how I understood that Elo Hell does not really exists, at least in the way people perceive it.
I am also a silver player and for a very long period believed in elo hell, I was complaining about the retards chasing kills or going 0-10 (how the fuck do you even go 0-10? i never had such a score, including with a support, anyway) I thought I am in elo hell coz I was mostly wining my lanes and very rarely I was dying more than 6-7 times in a game, usually around 4-5. The "retards" were "dragging" me down and life was hell until the day I decided to use my friend's bronze 5 account to practice some champs, I preferred to practice on ranked than on normal where people more or less don't give a shit. So I went playing bronze players with new champs and in two weeks time, playing around 2 to 4 games per day the most, I have moved this account on promotions for silver. Then I understood that I am just not good enough to reach gold with my main, yes maybe I have generally better game understanding than my other silver comrades, maybe I never go 0-10 and I never do utterly retarded shit, but I am just not good enough yet to stomp my silver elo and move to gold, maybe my mechanics maybe something else but its just not enough.
So yes, elo hell exist to some extend where you are one idea better than the surroundings and watching the retardness around you is really disheartening, but there is no elo hell where if you improve you skills to the next league level you won't be able to come out of.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 29 2013 11:06 GMT
#9864
Elo hell can make you lose a game you didn't deserve to lose, but obviously if you play consistently you will still win more games than you lose, this has been proven again and again and there's math to back it up.

Though... You see often in sports that when a good team play against a good team, they both play better, and if they play against a bad team, they usually become sloppy. How do you improve when you're playing with/against bronze people?

I just hit plat on my main. I've come to feel like the LoL league system is alot like, say, Megaman. You can't advance past a certain point unless you learn a certain move, like wall-jumping or sliding.

I left silver when I learned to trade in lane whilst still keeping up in farm. I started hovering around gold 1 when I learned to stop dying. To advance into plat, I had to learn to work with my team.

Order matters. To work with your team in bronze when they don't know wtf they're doing is suicide.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
SoraLimit
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada747 Posts
September 29 2013 23:24 GMT
#9865
You know what? I'm never going to trade with someone. I have third pick, first pick picks sona to trade with me, which is fine. The problem is that you don't fucking say anything about what you wanted, and now I get the penalty for leaving...
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
September 30 2013 00:15 GMT
#9866
On September 30 2013 08:24 SoraLimit wrote:
You know what? I'm never going to trade with someone. I have third pick, first pick picks sona to trade with me, which is fine. The problem is that you don't fucking say anything about what you wanted, and now I get the penalty for leaving...

even worse is when they say to first pick a support and then they're like lol i don't want to support sucks to be you
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 02:43:45
September 30 2013 02:38 GMT
#9867
--- Nuked ---
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#9868
A plat Caitlyn built BotRK into Frozen Mallet/Last Whisper. Someone shoot me.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 30 2013 02:59 GMT
#9869
On September 30 2013 11:58 zer0das wrote:
A plat Caitlyn built BotRK into Frozen Mallet/Last Whisper. Someone shoot me.

Well Cait could but I don't think it would do much.
It's your boy Guzma!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 04:23:15
September 30 2013 03:26 GMT
#9870
--- Nuked ---
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 30 2013 05:33 GMT
#9871
Ugh, I've had the worst run of luck.

Last three games have had an AFK on my team each time, and then the game before that I had a Shaco that purposely just towerdove and fed because our last pick told him he couldn't play Shaco top.

Gold 4, I despise you so.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 07:05:41
September 30 2013 05:53 GMT
#9872
--- Nuked ---
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 16:17:16
September 30 2013 15:06 GMT
#9873
How can someone that both allows the enemy to get corki AND who is afk for the first 5 minutes of the game not recognize that he is the problem?

And Ez, if i get you ahead in lane, DONT WASTE THAT AND BUY A FUCKING TEAR. Buy a real item, that helps you snowball. Especially against a silly cait soraka lane that you can easily kill IF YOU DO DAMAGE.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 22:18:36
September 30 2013 22:12 GMT
#9874
--- Nuked ---
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12060 Posts
September 30 2013 22:37 GMT
#9875
Yes, if it is like before, your new MMR gets calculated off the old one, but generally all shoved together. So if we say the average mmr is 1500, then a 1800 might become a 1550, a 2000 a 1600, etc...

Also, it is so horrible if the enemy mid comes bot nonstop, and yours doesn't react in any way. Doesn't take turret, doesn't start warding, doesn't even START moving from mid. There is nothing you can do. You see ahri coming, and you got the choice of either running back to your t2 tower if she is at drake, or dying because you get dived 4v2. And good luck convincing your ad to just give up that turret.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
September 30 2013 22:40 GMT
#9876
Play Zed, imo you can go plat easily just by playing him.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 23:01:18
September 30 2013 23:00 GMT
#9877
--- Nuked ---
eScapegoat100
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada71 Posts
September 30 2013 23:58 GMT
#9878
Just played the silliest game of my life.

We take baron and push their min inhib (tower is down already) but j4 initiates waay too early and we get aced.

They push our mid turrets down - even take down our nexus turrets before we respawn and kill 3 of them.

We push up mid as fast as we can and kill thier nexus towers - take nexus down to 10% before we get aced taking 4 of them with us.

Their Kassadin pushes our nexus alone and takes it down to 30%, Olaf respawns and tries to stop him but enemy Shen ults Kass. We are saved by more people respawning and killing them both. Then we finally end the game.

Not awesome enough for the Loci thread nor QQ enough for Shikyo's just wanted to share lol.
<p align=center><a target=_blank href=http://www.nodiatis.com/personality.htm><img border=0 src=http://www.nodiatis.com/pub/5.jpg></a></p>
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
October 01 2013 00:21 GMT
#9879
On October 01 2013 08:00 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 07:40 Sakray wrote:
Play Zed, imo you can go plat easily just by playing him.


really? I find it so hard to carry with zed. He provides basically no utility to the team and is so squishy in team fights that he can usually only do his job if he does it right (kill 1 person) regardless of how fed. Zed doesn't scale that well into late game imo. Sure you can use him to split I guess but there are so many other carry split pushers like trynd for example.

I'd rather have Fizz/Kassadin since they have similar assassination potential but better escapes than zed (with zhonyas).


It's easy to farm with him, so you're almost 100% sure you'll outfarm them, which is kinda good.
Once you can combokill your lane if you take movility boots you can roam and make plays/give kills/secure objectives everywhere. If their mid follows you, it's up to you to find the good timing so you can trap and kill him 1v1.
With his passive and Z's passive you're guaranted to murder everyone in TF, especially with botrk (huge base AD + botrk pssive + botrk attack speed), you just need to abuse your mobility to stay alive. And don't jump blindly in TF :p

Imo Zed is better at splitpushing than Trynda because when you 1v1 someone, most of the time you'll be able to keep pushing while Trynda has higher chance to end up with almost no hp. I like using my ult + combo on someone, then I keep pushing the lane while the mark is on because I would waste time and hp keeping attacking him. Usually the mark will kill him, if not, a simple AA will do the job.

Anyway, I hate Ahri, broken champ.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 02:09:17
October 01 2013 00:35 GMT
#9880
Graggahrghhhaa clamping

89. +5
94 +3
97 +1
98 -3
95 qualified for series How does that make any sense?

This must be the most infuriating system that you can think of.

Also, can someone explain why the enemy get a team with zed, zac, corki, while i get random shit like talon mid making the team 100% AD? Why would anyone play talon mid, ever? He is like zed, only a lot worse in every respect with 0 upsides.
Prev 1 492 493 494 495 496 687 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 101
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4450
Rain 2388
Horang2 1050
Hyuk 582
Bisu 497
Jaedong 391
BeSt 250
Larva 207
actioN 200
Pusan 75
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 74
Sharp 63
Mind 50
Light 45
Killer 43
Soma 42
ToSsGirL 38
Hyun 26
Shinee 22
Noble 14
ProTech11
Terrorterran 10
Dota 2
ODPixel153
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss757
edward736
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox662
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr83
Other Games
olofmeister638
ceh9533
Sick164
Livibee116
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick616
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH342
• LUISG 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2301
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1h 37m
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
14h 37m
The PondCast
1d
Kung Fu Cup
1d 1h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Yamato Cup
5 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Rogue vs Classic
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.