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On April 22 2013 01:04 obesechicken13 wrote:

I like it.

All his moves are decent in the early game because they have numbers if maxed (damage, or shield) and useful later on since they have utility (hook, grab, push, slow).
As a support he obviously doesn't have much damage.

Now contrast that to shit like Soraka or Janna or Blitz:
Soraka's W only gives armor over 3 seconds, and Q is only a small amount of mpen. E is still a decent silence. Her ult fades in strength until the enemy Karthus is easily doing 2x the damage that Soraka heals.
Janna's Q is still an AoE knockup. Her W is just a weak slow. Her E is a weak shield that when broken no longer provides AD. Her ult is still fine.
Blitz's W is just a movement speed buff. His ult is a short ass AoE silence, good, but nowhere near as good as any other AoE CC move.


When you think of a support you need someone who will be useful without gold. All of Thresh's abilities do well without gold. Because even when you take away all of the numbers on his abilities, you still get a decent kit. You can't say that about many other supports because they've been nerfed to oblivion or weren't designed so that each ability made them better at their role.

I mean if you give an AD carry no abilities that synergize with what an AD needs, eg. Varus, he can still do tons of damage because he has gold. The only way to make a support with a bad kit balanced is to make his numbers really strong early on so that it doesn't matter if he doesn't offer enough utility late game, or to give them only one extremely good ability like Janna's ult or Blitz's Q such that it doesn't matter that their other skills suck.

On April 22 2013 01:04 obesechicken13 wrote:

I like it.

All his moves are decent in the early game because they have numbers if maxed (damage, or shield) and useful later on since they have utility (hook, grab, push, slow).
As a support he obviously doesn't have much damage.

Now contrast that to shit like Soraka or Janna or Blitz:
Soraka's W only gives armor over 3 seconds, and Q is only a small amount of mpen. E is still a decent silence. Her ult fades in strength until the enemy Karthus is easily doing 2x the damage that Soraka heals.
Janna's Q is still an AoE knockup. Her W is just a weak slow. Her E is a weak shield that when broken no longer provides AD. Her ult is still fine.
Blitz's W is just a movement speed buff. His ult is a short ass AoE silence, good, but nowhere near as good as any other AoE CC move.


When you think of a support you need someone who will be useful without gold. All of Thresh's abilities do well without gold. Because even when you take away all of the numbers on his abilities, you still get a decent kit. You can't say that about many other supports because they've been nerfed to oblivion or weren't designed so that each ability made them better at their role.

I mean if you give an AD carry no abilities that synergize with what an AD needs, eg. Varus, he can still do tons of damage because he has gold. The only way to make a support with a bad kit balanced is to make his numbers really strong early on so that it doesn't matter if he doesn't offer enough utility late game, or to give them only one extremely good ability like Janna's ult or Blitz's Q such that it doesn't matter that their other skills suck.