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How to win a game? Tell me, HOW? I was so excited when I saw that the enemy team has a former top 5 guy in their roster... I mean, I'm at gold 2 (recently got demoted from g1) so playing againts a 2500 elo guy is truly an honor - though quite scary. I was playing quite good with seju, nice ganks, nice cs (I had top 3 cs in the entire game for a very long time), and even my team was OK, some were better some were worse. But then we reached mid game, no outer towers, no laning phase, and everyone was just wandering around. "Take objectives!" you would say, well, we were trying to take dragon, but they wanted to contest it, so I engaged on them (I stunned four people) aaaaand we got aced. Our momentum stopped there. No one had the slightest idea what to do. Baron? Impossible, we couldn't win teamfights in small areas, Push a lane? I don't know, I'm not sure if could've dove them, but they had a nice waveclear as well. Wait for lategame? They had Kog, and also, we were ahead, so there was no point to stall the game. So all we did was... nothing. I knew someone eventually gonna break, and oh well, it happened to e me. I thought I can catch their Lux, but that was a terrible ult, so they re-engaged on us, then we lost. I don't mind that I "threw" the game because I had plenty of good ultimates as well (which lead to all of our minor victories), so overall I am satisfied with my performance, I just HATE playing with people who don't know how to win, and I hate the fact that apparently I am one of them. I am pretty sure "wait for a spectacular sejuani ultimate" was not the only way to win that game, because it's not like a Morg binding or a Blitz grab, which you spam every 10 seconds and eventually you get someone, you really can't risk failing it.
True, I was kinda starstruck in that game, but the 10 minutes silence in team-chat is killing me every time. Please, someone make a call, even if it's the worst one in the history. Playing aimlessly while ahead is just sucking the life out of me.
On second thought, why the **** Riot resets 2500 ELO players ratings so they can wreck havoc in low tiers?
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4v5 with a 1v2 bot lane of me(ez) vs cait/thresh.Go equal cs and even kill their jungler and escape after I get ganked.At the end my top laner blames me for the loss because they went constantly mid 1/2 people vs shaco/tf and apparently I wasn't grouping lol.....
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murphy strikes hard in LoL:
1. Everytime the opposing team picks double ap, their ad carry gets fed in lane. 2. Whenever you dominate a lane early on, the opposing jungler ganks you at the weirdest times and suicide kills you regularly. 3. Whenever you are behind in a lane early on, your jungler farms a small camp while you get turret dived and flames you when you call for help. 4. Whenever your team is behind everyone tries to get crumbs of farm in uncontrolled areas while applying 0 pressure and mapcontrol. 5. Whenever your team is ahead the enemy team takes smart risks and sneaks in turrets and/or catches people offguard in the jungle, while defending objectives patiently. 6. In a near to tower postering situation your teammates overextend their position because they try to competitively farm the single lane until one of them gets caught in CC or poked to a critical health amount. 7. In the same situation your opponents let one or two of the carries clear the waves while the other players synchonously use their spells to poke and possibly initiate on an out of position target. 8. Your AD carry is allways farming bot when the enemy team is forcing a fight near baron. 9. That smartass who uses the teamchat to tell ppl what they do wrong all the time is on your team, just had 2 espressos, a line of coke and is sexually frustrated. 10. The same kind of smartass on the other team just came home from running a couple rounds near the lake during a sunny, warm evening. 11. Whenever you make a good call a single player chickens out messing everything up. The same person will flame you for making 'shitty' calls / 'overexteding'. 12. The guy who often spams retreat when you initiate left his lane with 0:3:2 stats. 13. The ridiculously aggressive player who takes extreme risks all the time on the other team, didn't get ganked when he towerdived his opponent with 30% hp left, your karthus also did't have his ult up for another 12s and your dead teammate missed his healing pot hotkey during the dive and didn't notice it until his opponent left with 10hp. You play ashe and the guy tries to suicide kill you in teamfights all so you decide to initiate on him. your teammates flame you for wasting your arrows on bruisers.
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Dear god, Bronze league is full of window lickers. Its impossible to leave it. I do not care what anyone says. You cannot hyper carry when your support steals cs. You cannot get fed enough in 20 minutes to carry hard enough. Riot seriously needs to start banning instantly for leaving games. I have not had a game in weeks without an afk on one of the teams. I played a game today. I was 11-3 jungle xin. Total score we were up by 24 kills at 30 minutes. 24 KILLS AHEAD. How does it play out? Top lane d/c, lulu with 100+ cs and 4/3 score decides to try to solo dragon for no reason and dies, and they push and win now that we are 3v5. Every game. Never win. Every game makes me wish there was another great flood to drown half the population for being so stupid. I need to get out of this league as my patience for these people is running very thin. Seriously any advice is taken. All I can think of right now is paying someone to carry me out or making a new name.
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On February 12 2013 03:52 imanoobcs wrote: Dear god, Bronze league is full of window lickers. Its impossible to leave it. I do not care what anyone says. You cannot hyper carry when your support steals cs. You cannot get fed enough in 20 minutes to carry hard enough. Riot seriously needs to start banning instantly for leaving games. I have not had a game in weeks without an afk on one of the teams. I played a game today. I was 11-3 jungle xin. Total score we were up by 24 kills at 30 minutes. 24 KILLS AHEAD. How does it play out? Top lane d/c, lulu with 100+ cs and 4/3 score decides to try to solo dragon for no reason and dies, and they push and win now that we are 3v5. Every game. Never win. Every game makes me wish there was another great flood to drown half the population for being so stupid. I need to get out of this league as my patience for these people is running very thin. Seriously any advice is taken. All I can think of right now is paying someone to carry me out or making a new name.
You don't need someone to carry you out, if you were good enough for a higher elo, you would be doing that yourself. Of course there will be the occasional game that you cannot carry, but if you are much better, you will easily win. You need to focus on your own mistakes and there are plenty of them if you can't get out of bronze. Also, people leaving, raging and throwing games happens at every elo.
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In my opinion, if you are really better then you are rated, just play jungle hecarim every game. If you don't get Hec, play vi instead. You can carry so hard with it, it is pretty much absurd. If you can't carry most of your games as jungle hec, you might need to consider that you are actually not as good as you think you are, and are indeed roughly where you belong. Like, i am pretty sure i could win about 70-80% of my games in bronze as jungle hec, and i am only barely plat and i usually play support. This is not because Hec is OP or anything, but he is pretty much the champion with whom you can exploit skill differentials the most, and if fed enough you can easily 1v3 the enemy team. Plus you don't give a fuck if your lanes fail, if they do you just farm that lane in addition to the jungle and get even richer.
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On February 12 2013 05:09 Simberto wrote: In my opinion, if you are really better then you are rated, just play jungle hecarim every game. If you don't get Hec, play vi instead. You can carry so hard with it, it is pretty much absurd. If you can't carry most of your games as jungle hec, you might need to consider that you are actually not as good as you think you are, and are indeed roughly where you belong. Like, i am pretty sure i could win about 70-80% of my games in bronze as jungle hec, and i am only barely plat and i usually play support. This is not because Hec is OP or anything, but he is pretty much the champion with whom you can exploit skill differentials the most, and if fed enough you can easily 1v3 the enemy team. Plus you don't give a fuck if your lanes fail, if they do you just farm that lane in addition to the jungle and get even richer.
I gotta agree with this man, league thought my mmr was too low for my league/division (silver III) at the time and I was playing with silver 5s barely earning any points, but holy cow were those games easy. Carried a 4v5 as jungle panth. Wrecked 3 bot lanes as taric and got a 34.0 KDA in 2 games as Hecarim. I think that if you're matched against people who are below you in skill, it will show.
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On February 12 2013 07:28 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 05:09 Simberto wrote: In my opinion, if you are really better then you are rated, just play jungle hecarim every game. If you don't get Hec, play vi instead. You can carry so hard with it, it is pretty much absurd. If you can't carry most of your games as jungle hec, you might need to consider that you are actually not as good as you think you are, and are indeed roughly where you belong. Like, i am pretty sure i could win about 70-80% of my games in bronze as jungle hec, and i am only barely plat and i usually play support. This is not because Hec is OP or anything, but he is pretty much the champion with whom you can exploit skill differentials the most, and if fed enough you can easily 1v3 the enemy team. Plus you don't give a fuck if your lanes fail, if they do you just farm that lane in addition to the jungle and get even richer. I gotta agree with this man, league thought my mmr was too low for my league/division (silver III) at the time and I was playing with silver 5s barely earning any points, but holy cow were those games easy. Carried a 4v5 as jungle panth. Wrecked 3 bot lanes as taric and got a 34.0 KDA in 2 games as Hecarim. I think that if you're matched against people who are below you in skill, it will show.
Last season I was hovering at 1600 playing support exclusively.
Did placements this week, ended up Bronze 3. In my last few games I had: 1. A Cait that wouldn't CS vs a Corki I kept under 3 bars of HP for most of lane phase as Sona, and somehow ended up 0/3 versus a legendary Corki by the end of the game. 2. Someone who instalocks Leona, doesn't ward, keeps blowing her W on the wave and fucking up my CS (I suck at AD already, but I felt like I did the best I could given the circumstances). 3. A team where I ask if they know how Thresh's lantern works and they tell me 'ofc am I stupid', then proceed to never grab it to safety when out of position. 4. An Ezreal who I get legendary in lane, then decides to NEVER be with the team because "he wants to finish his build before fight". We lost two dragons, Baron and the game. 5. A Kat that lost to a Karthus. Karthus had a RoA at approximately 10 minutes. We would kill him, get a couple low and then BOOM, Requiem kills us all. If I hadn't survived with 6 hp one of those times, he would have gotten 2 pentas in the same game. 6. I ask to jungle Fiddle, last pick goes jungle Annie without saying a word. Steals my blue and as much f my shit as she can, then tries to counterjungle and generally fucks up the game.
Man, I can't even carry with fucking Sona.
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We were up ~10 kills, they had an open inhibitor, but because our Lee Sin top derps, they get a free baron. We still have a huge advantage and could easily beat them. No, Janna starts surrender vote, when it goes 1-4, ragequits... WHAT THE FUCK?
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On February 12 2013 07:49 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 07:28 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:On February 12 2013 05:09 Simberto wrote: In my opinion, if you are really better then you are rated, just play jungle hecarim every game. If you don't get Hec, play vi instead. You can carry so hard with it, it is pretty much absurd. If you can't carry most of your games as jungle hec, you might need to consider that you are actually not as good as you think you are, and are indeed roughly where you belong. Like, i am pretty sure i could win about 70-80% of my games in bronze as jungle hec, and i am only barely plat and i usually play support. This is not because Hec is OP or anything, but he is pretty much the champion with whom you can exploit skill differentials the most, and if fed enough you can easily 1v3 the enemy team. Plus you don't give a fuck if your lanes fail, if they do you just farm that lane in addition to the jungle and get even richer. I gotta agree with this man, league thought my mmr was too low for my league/division (silver III) at the time and I was playing with silver 5s barely earning any points, but holy cow were those games easy. Carried a 4v5 as jungle panth. Wrecked 3 bot lanes as taric and got a 34.0 KDA in 2 games as Hecarim. I think that if you're matched against people who are below you in skill, it will show. Last season I was hovering at 1600 playing support exclusively. Did placements this week, ended up Bronze 3. In my last few games I had: 1. A Cait that wouldn't CS vs a Corki I kept under 3 bars of HP for most of lane phase as Sona, and somehow ended up 0/3 versus a legendary Corki by the end of the game. 2. Someone who instalocks Leona, doesn't ward, keeps blowing her W on the wave and fucking up my CS (I suck at AD already, but I felt like I did the best I could given the circumstances). 3. A team where I ask if they know how Thresh's lantern works and they tell me 'ofc am I stupid', then proceed to never grab it to safety when out of position. 4. An Ezreal who I get legendary in lane, then decides to NEVER be with the team because "he wants to finish his build before fight". We lost two dragons, Baron and the game. 5. A Kat that lost to a Karthus. Karthus had a RoA at approximately 10 minutes. We would kill him, get a couple low and then BOOM, Requiem kills us all. If I hadn't survived with 6 hp one of those times, he would have gotten 2 pentas in the same game. 6. I ask to jungle Fiddle, last pick goes jungle Annie without saying a word. Steals my blue and as much f my shit as she can, then tries to counterjungle and generally fucks up the game. Man, I can't even carry with fucking Sona.
I've come to really dislike sona in the current meta. She's too squishy vs the more aggressive long sword + 2 pots / dorans blade openings. In regards to your other games... I don't even know man. Your frustration belongs here.
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3 games in a row I picke Twitch and win my bottom lane. Ranged from dominating lane with 3-4 kills on them by the time teamfights happened or by getting 1-2 kills/assists and winning alot in cs to where they can't fight us.
In all 3 games my team all fed in middle/top and/or jungle to the point where it was uncarryable for me. Last game for example enemy Kass was 18-1 by the time they killed our nexus and our jungle Olaf had no hp items and only Merc for MR and he ended up going 1-10. My support was even worse (but we still won lane) with a score of 1-12 with only like 6 assists.
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On February 12 2013 09:15 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 07:49 ticklishmusic wrote:On February 12 2013 07:28 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:On February 12 2013 05:09 Simberto wrote: In my opinion, if you are really better then you are rated, just play jungle hecarim every game. If you don't get Hec, play vi instead. You can carry so hard with it, it is pretty much absurd. If you can't carry most of your games as jungle hec, you might need to consider that you are actually not as good as you think you are, and are indeed roughly where you belong. Like, i am pretty sure i could win about 70-80% of my games in bronze as jungle hec, and i am only barely plat and i usually play support. This is not because Hec is OP or anything, but he is pretty much the champion with whom you can exploit skill differentials the most, and if fed enough you can easily 1v3 the enemy team. Plus you don't give a fuck if your lanes fail, if they do you just farm that lane in addition to the jungle and get even richer. I gotta agree with this man, league thought my mmr was too low for my league/division (silver III) at the time and I was playing with silver 5s barely earning any points, but holy cow were those games easy. Carried a 4v5 as jungle panth. Wrecked 3 bot lanes as taric and got a 34.0 KDA in 2 games as Hecarim. I think that if you're matched against people who are below you in skill, it will show. Last season I was hovering at 1600 playing support exclusively. Did placements this week, ended up Bronze 3. In my last few games I had: 1. A Cait that wouldn't CS vs a Corki I kept under 3 bars of HP for most of lane phase as Sona, and somehow ended up 0/3 versus a legendary Corki by the end of the game. 2. Someone who instalocks Leona, doesn't ward, keeps blowing her W on the wave and fucking up my CS (I suck at AD already, but I felt like I did the best I could given the circumstances). 3. A team where I ask if they know how Thresh's lantern works and they tell me 'ofc am I stupid', then proceed to never grab it to safety when out of position. 4. An Ezreal who I get legendary in lane, then decides to NEVER be with the team because "he wants to finish his build before fight". We lost two dragons, Baron and the game. 5. A Kat that lost to a Karthus. Karthus had a RoA at approximately 10 minutes. We would kill him, get a couple low and then BOOM, Requiem kills us all. If I hadn't survived with 6 hp one of those times, he would have gotten 2 pentas in the same game. 6. I ask to jungle Fiddle, last pick goes jungle Annie without saying a word. Steals my blue and as much f my shit as she can, then tries to counterjungle and generally fucks up the game. Man, I can't even carry with fucking Sona. I've come to really dislike sona in the current meta. She's too squishy vs the more aggressive long sword + 2 pots / dorans blade openings. In regards to your other games... I don't even know man. Your frustration belongs here.
Sona is fine IMO. The only champ that's a real threat to her is Leona, with Thresh a distant second (I don't even count Blitz cuz he's always banned). Just position well, land the occasional Q, get off as many autos (with passive procs) as you can and pickpocket your way up. Generally you can play pretty aggressive vs no-sustain lanes b/c you also have a heal. I play her because its just so braindead-- you harass the other side down, get kills if they stay too long then be sick aurabot with one of the best ults in the game.
I've pretty much decided that unless I can get a +6 kill advantage bot lane, the game only has a 30% chance of victory. If its +6 kills, it might jump up to like 70%.
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Goddamnit, I am too sick to play but I want to playy
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I hate supporting in solo q. I'm fine doing it in premade 5s, but when you do it in solo q and get a Sivir who tries to fight Draven at lvl 1 and we trade 1 for 2 (Lulu for me and Sivir).
Sivir then decides to fight him twice more.
How can you be this dumb?
:/
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I just played against Steel Legion Lux. I will spare you with the rest of the details.
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On February 12 2013 17:55 Sufficiency wrote: I just played against Steel Legion Lux. I will spare you with the rest of the details. Considering buying that skin and re-learning Lux just to see the rage when I fire my invisible abilities at them or they flash out of my auto-attacks since they think they are Q's.
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How many times can someone overextend farming with no wards and get jumped on by three people and die? I just don't understand. After the 5th time don't you see a pattern developing or something? What is wrong with some people?
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On February 12 2013 18:48 TSBspartacus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 17:55 Sufficiency wrote: I just played against Steel Legion Lux. I will spare you with the rest of the details. Considering buying that skin and re-learning Lux just to see the rage when I fire my invisible abilities at them or they flash out of my auto-attacks since they think they are Q's.
Yet another pay to win skin. God.
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On February 12 2013 19:59 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 18:48 TSBspartacus wrote:On February 12 2013 17:55 Sufficiency wrote: I just played against Steel Legion Lux. I will spare you with the rest of the details. Considering buying that skin and re-learning Lux just to see the rage when I fire my invisible abilities at them or they flash out of my auto-attacks since they think they are Q's. Yet another pay to win skin. God. What other skins would you say were pay-to-win? For uhh, scientific purposes. Blood lord Vladimir is the only one that comes to mind, or perhaps some of the ones with smaller models like Vandal Vladimir, or Underworld Twisted Fate.
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WHY ARE PEOPLE SO RETARDED.
Hi MF, im your leona supp.
I tell you im going to bait, ez jumps wall i Q-R and run off, you leave him at 10% hp to follow and kill me then ask me why i dont ping? Oooook then..
Renek and xin are bot with 5% hp and all you have to do is chase and kill? Ah no, let them live so renek can regen in a brush and fucking own me when i flame you for it 2 minutes later.
Fucking hell i really wish i had the ping to play an FPS competitively instead of this shit
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