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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 03 2012 12:48 GMT
#6001
Just played a game supporting cait as lulu

Cait opens dorans blade vs soraka

Cait does double golems without kiting, losing 2/3 of her health

Cait then backs, missing the entire first creep wave

Cait then teles into lane, because she is of course running tele/flash

needless to say we lost the game
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 03 2012 18:07 GMT
#6002
On November 03 2012 06:04 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
On November 02 2012 20:57 Nikon wrote:
Play Morg mid vs Kat. Boss her around, finish laning phase 4-0. Get extremely fed, shit on enemy fed Draveneveryone, make plays like dodging Malph ult with flash and killing 3/5 enemy team... we win game with my result being 8-1-11 and what do I get?

[+1] Teamwork
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What do I need to do to get fucking honours QQQQQQQQQ


lots of pinging. it brings up da morale bro. direct correlation between ping and honor.

sona/ amumu number one honor farmer. just gotta land an ulti in the ~5 minutes before you win and they remember your badass initiate. works for others, but those two are just really flashy.


I just mute players that ping excessively, they're not showing me anything I can't see on the map already, it just gets annoying tbh.


I don't suppose Bulgaria is close to Romania...
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
November 03 2012 18:30 GMT
#6003
On November 04 2012 03:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 06:04 Nikon wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
On November 02 2012 20:57 Nikon wrote:
Play Morg mid vs Kat. Boss her around, finish laning phase 4-0. Get extremely fed, shit on enemy fed Draveneveryone, make plays like dodging Malph ult with flash and killing 3/5 enemy team... we win game with my result being 8-1-11 and what do I get?

[+1] Teamwork
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
QQQQQQQQQQ
What do I need to do to get fucking honours QQQQQQQQQ


lots of pinging. it brings up da morale bro. direct correlation between ping and honor.

sona/ amumu number one honor farmer. just gotta land an ulti in the ~5 minutes before you win and they remember your badass initiate. works for others, but those two are just really flashy.


I just mute players that ping excessively, they're not showing me anything I can't see on the map already, it just gets annoying tbh.


I don't suppose Bulgaria is close to Romania...


Funny story, the town I was born was a part of Romania for several decades before it got returned to Bulgaria.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
November 03 2012 19:12 GMT
#6004
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 03 2012 22:29 GMT
#6005
I decided to give jungle jayce a serious go.

[image loading]
Part of this was just seriously being unlucky. But I just couldn't win games. I don't mind jayce's ganks. The biggest problem with them is when I E someone the wrong way or when I E a minion which happens quite a lot. If I could keybind tilda and E to just E I'd not fail 1/3 of my failed ganks.

I was maxing W too since I like W's clear speeds. The lack of burst probably hurt though I'm still not sure. Logically sustained damage should catch up to burst damage eventually.

It may have been my build. I tried to build tanky but then in midgame 5v5 fights I'd jump in and die instantly anyways. Jayce really suffers as far as tanky dps go in that he doesn't get enough free tankiness. Like I guarantee if I were rammus with the same build I'd have survived for slightly longer in many fights.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Pathos
Profile Joined April 2003
United States94 Posts
November 04 2012 02:14 GMT
#6006
Actually yes, the reason you're low elo is exactly because you can't carry games while ridiculously fed.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2012 06:53 GMT
#6007
All I want is a team that knows what it means to protect the AD instead of chasing after a support. Like, it's not that hard. Don't let Cho and Malph just walk (not even ult, just walk) right onto my face and sit there. Do anything at all.
It's your boy Guzma!
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 04 2012 09:08 GMT
#6008
WHY CAN'T I GET GOOD TEAMMATES WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 04 2012 18:59 GMT
#6009
On November 04 2012 18:08 IMoperator wrote:
WHY CAN'T I GET GOOD TEAMMATES WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I played 3 jungle games, and fucking dominated the jungle. Every gank I attempted was successful, and moreover, with good warding, I cockblocked most of the enemy jungler's ganks such that he died on most of them.

So you'd expect the team with the jungler 3 levels higher than enemy jungler to have easy win.

But no, we go from 5-0 to 8-10 because every lane decided to derp and die randomly by themselves 2v2 or 1v1 when they had a huge advantage knowing that they weren't under jungle pressure and other lane playing super scared because of my pressure.

Mind boggling.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11954 Posts
November 04 2012 19:00 GMT
#6010
And i guess they also blamed you for it.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 04 2012 19:10 GMT
#6011
On November 05 2012 04:00 Simberto wrote:
And i guess they also blamed you for it.

5/11/8 Pantheon called me useless as 3/3/21 Nunu. I also finished the game with more gold than him. T_______________T
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 23:42:03
November 04 2012 23:41 GMT
#6012
"Let it [the outer mid at 600 hp] go". Olaf doesn't, has to ult. When they catch him again ~20s later, he dies, we lose outer and inner.
"They got no ults, defend it." Olaf with 75% hp and ult prefers to take red then recall, because ultless Amumu, Sona and Rumble (who's at 50%) are too scary for fed TF and Olaf to stall. We kill 2 of them when we respawn but too late to save the inhib.
"Tank the creeps." when we just won a fight and have to save our inhibitor that just respawned. Olaf runs to theirs, stops midway, recalls and arrives too late. Jayce could have helped me (ultless support Nunu, I can tank but I can't kill) by tanking the creeps that didn't aggro me, but he runs past the inhib to kill the super minion-less wave that just arrived and thus would aggro me rather than the inhib. It falls as Cait respawns.

Goddamn idiots, really...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 23:45:46
November 04 2012 23:45 GMT
#6013
On November 05 2012 08:41 Alaric wrote:
"Let it [the outer mid at 600 hp] go". Olaf doesn't, has to ult. When they catch him again ~20s later, he dies, we lose outer and inner.

[...]

Goddamn idiots, really...


Haha, this is so funny, a lot of my friends still do this although they have played more than 2000 games. They are like 'd00ds come help mid they pushin' ma tower' when we are miles away and the tower is 100% gone. They will still die and act like if it's a surprise: 'wow didn't think they could dive me'.

Silly boy, everyone knows that turrets deal 0 damage and if they do, they randomly switch aggro so every diving enemy will leave with very little health. Some people will never learn I guess.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
November 05 2012 03:13 GMT
#6014
First ranked since 3 days... and i remember why i hate them at times.

Mid picked Kennen vs Ahri. Enemy Lee jungler ganked him a few times, our Hecarim Jungler didn't gank for him as often, so Kennen throws a fit and spends the rest of the game flaming the jungler and running around on his own. I mean, the jungler wasn't the best in the world but it's 1200 ELO, people make mistakes and the jungler wasn't really bad either...

If i hadn't played Vayne and carried our team hardcore in the 4v5 he would have lost it for us eventhough it was in our favour when he started flaming. When i commented that we are in the process of winning and it would be nice of him to just calm down and play, he just said "Hecarim doesn't deserve the win".

I hate such people -.-
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 03:28:30
November 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#6015
Playing as TF. I am well on top of Lux mid but for some reason my wifi shits itself and I'm on 500 ping 10 min - 20 min marks. Fucks me up pretty bad on two ganks as I die both times when I should have been fine.

Anyway we are still fairly ahead, ezreal has like 60 more cs and 4 kills on ashe, I'm ahead of lux, pantheon has lost to vlad (wtf?) but its ok because their jungle jax doesn't even have trinity yet and our lee is doing work. Ezreal then proceeds to get caught out really badly and they kill him. Instead of going STRAIGHT for the base race, our team does dragon (WTF?) whilst I start pushing mid up (They had an extra tower to get through but they had 5 to 4. I did have dc/lich bane though so I kill turrets a lot faster than anyone on their team except ashe). Pantheon then does BLUE instead of coming straight for the base, we then lose the base race with their nexus at 300hp.

Why the f*ck would you do dragon when they are all top and either baron or going for an inhib? JUST PUSH DOWN MID AND WIN THE GAME
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 06:23:02
November 05 2012 05:34 GMT
#6016
Got permabanned. I could try to give a shit but I really don't right now. Riot doesn't know dick about how to efficiently run an online game. If they did then all these fucking idiots who troll, or feed, or fucking don't even speak a word of english when they are on NA server would be permabanned too.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 08:49:19
November 05 2012 08:48 GMT
#6017
On November 04 2012 15:53 Requizen wrote:
All I want is a team that knows what it means to protect the AD instead of chasing after a support. Like, it's not that hard. Don't let Cho and Malph just walk (not even ult, just walk) right onto my face and sit there. Do anything at all.

I'm with you... It's the greatest feeling in the world when your entire team just dives past the enemy team and leaves you standing in the middle of four enemies. They kill you and then mop up the rest of your team which was chasing like idiots. Everybody is dead and they have plenty of time to blame you for your "bad" positioning. Never play an ad with low mobility in Solo Q, because you're all alone when the enemy comes.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
November 05 2012 08:55 GMT
#6018
On November 03 2012 11:11 IMoperator wrote:
Why is it that other people always have better teammates than me? I don't understand how people don't believe in the "elo hell" thing, this game depends way too much on teammates not messing up. You can play perfectly, and still lose because one of the lanes feeds and it snowballs out of control.


If you think you're playing perfectly, you're terribly terribly mistaken.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 05 2012 09:02 GMT
#6019
On November 04 2012 07:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I decided to give jungle jayce a serious go.

[image loading]
Part of this was just seriously being unlucky. But I just couldn't win games. I don't mind jayce's ganks. The biggest problem with them is when I E someone the wrong way or when I E a minion which happens quite a lot. If I could keybind tilda and E to just E I'd not fail 1/3 of my failed ganks.

I was maxing W too since I like W's clear speeds. The lack of burst probably hurt though I'm still not sure. Logically sustained damage should catch up to burst damage eventually.

It may have been my build. I tried to build tanky but then in midgame 5v5 fights I'd jump in and die instantly anyways. Jayce really suffers as far as tanky dps go in that he doesn't get enough free tankiness. Like I guarantee if I were rammus with the same build I'd have survived for slightly longer in many fights.


I am pretty sure there is no point to play him in soloQ anymore; his win % is like 45% or something now.
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pikagrue
Profile Joined February 2011
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 10:43:18
November 05 2012 10:40 GMT
#6020
On November 05 2012 17:55 Thermia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:11 IMoperator wrote:
Why is it that other people always have better teammates than me? I don't understand how people don't believe in the "elo hell" thing, this game depends way too much on teammates not messing up. You can play perfectly, and still lose because one of the lanes feeds and it snowballs out of control.


If you think you're playing perfectly, you're terribly terribly mistaken.


On a similar note, if you're never the reason for your loss, and some random troll/terribad determines the loss for either side, you will (eventually) average a 55% winrate over the long run, and escape so called "ELO hell".

Reasoning being that if you're not the problem, then there are 9 slots the so called terribad/troll can fit into. 4 of them are on your side, 5 are the enemies. 4/9 probability of you losing. (This assumes there's one troll/terribad per game, and the side they're on loses, which is pretty in line with the complaints)

I can calculate probabilities of having a <50% winrate using this model given X games played if anyone wants that.
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