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On November 05 2012 19:40 pikagrue wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 17:55 Thermia wrote:On November 03 2012 11:11 IMoperator wrote:
Why is it that other people always have better teammates than me? I don't understand how people don't believe in the "elo hell" thing, this game depends way too much on teammates not messing up. You can play perfectly, and still lose because one of the lanes feeds and it snowballs out of control. If you think you're playing perfectly, you're terribly terribly mistaken. On a similar note, if you're never the reason for your loss, and some random troll/terribad determines the loss for either side, you will (eventually) average a 55% winrate over the long run, and escape so called "ELO hell". Reasoning being that if you're not the problem, then there are 9 slots the so called terribad/troll can fit into. 4 of them are on your side, 5 are the enemies. 4/9 probability of you losing. (This assumes there's one troll/terribad per game, and the side they're on loses, which is pretty in line with the complaints) I can calculate probabilities of having a <50% winrate using this model given X games played if anyone wants that.
If you played enough X-Com, you know that 50% chances will fail 100% of the time :p
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On November 05 2012 19:51 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 19:40 pikagrue wrote:On November 05 2012 17:55 Thermia wrote:On November 03 2012 11:11 IMoperator wrote:
Why is it that other people always have better teammates than me? I don't understand how people don't believe in the "elo hell" thing, this game depends way too much on teammates not messing up. You can play perfectly, and still lose because one of the lanes feeds and it snowballs out of control. If you think you're playing perfectly, you're terribly terribly mistaken. On a similar note, if you're never the reason for your loss, and some random troll/terribad determines the loss for either side, you will (eventually) average a 55% winrate over the long run, and escape so called "ELO hell". Reasoning being that if you're not the problem, then there are 9 slots the so called terribad/troll can fit into. 4 of them are on your side, 5 are the enemies. 4/9 probability of you losing. (This assumes there's one troll/terribad per game, and the side they're on loses, which is pretty in line with the complaints) I can calculate probabilities of having a <50% winrate using this model given X games played if anyone wants that. If you played enough X-Com, you know that 50% chances will fail 100% of the time :p
That is true too, someone has to be the unlucky 1/5000 sap...
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Ugh, this is NA fucking server, if you aren't going to speak English or Spanish, play on another server. Asian and European servers exist for a reason.
Can I report these people for refusing to communicate with team?
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Yay. Firstpick takes mid. Second Pick jungle. Our forth pick states "bot". Last pick wants top. a discussion starts how to counter the enemy top, who is a garen. Teemo is the result, and 4th pick now locks in teemo. I sigh, guess he changed his mind and take sivir. 5th pick takes blitzcrank.
Game starts, teemo takes a dorans ring and goes bot. I curse and go top without even argueing. My team rages at me for going tpo, i tell them that teemo wants bot and now they rage at him. At some point, i can't solo garen anymore and therefore can't farm a´nymore despite being 2/0 in lane. We lose.
Next game, first pick wants to switch with support to get mid, picks ezreal. Fourth pick proceeds to afk during champ selcet, getting a random ali. As he is trying to give ali to firstpick, who does not want thatz trade, i ask him whether he wants to trade with my taric, which he declines as well. Last pick takes a mid, we have a team. But ali is horrible at jungling. Everytime we tell him he needs to gank more, he yells that the champion was randomed and it's not his fault he is bad. OH YEAH? SO NOT YOUR FAULT YOU HAD TO GO AFK IN CHAMPSELECT? NOT YOUR FAULT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE THE CHAMP IF YOU KNEW YOU CAN'T JUNGLE??????
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On November 05 2012 19:51 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 19:40 pikagrue wrote:On November 05 2012 17:55 Thermia wrote:On November 03 2012 11:11 IMoperator wrote:
Why is it that other people always have better teammates than me? I don't understand how people don't believe in the "elo hell" thing, this game depends way too much on teammates not messing up. You can play perfectly, and still lose because one of the lanes feeds and it snowballs out of control. If you think you're playing perfectly, you're terribly terribly mistaken. On a similar note, if you're never the reason for your loss, and some random troll/terribad determines the loss for either side, you will (eventually) average a 55% winrate over the long run, and escape so called "ELO hell". Reasoning being that if you're not the problem, then there are 9 slots the so called terribad/troll can fit into. 4 of them are on your side, 5 are the enemies. 4/9 probability of you losing. (This assumes there's one troll/terribad per game, and the side they're on loses, which is pretty in line with the complaints) I can calculate probabilities of having a <50% winrate using this model given X games played if anyone wants that. If you played enough X-Com, you know that 50% chances will fail 100% of the time :p
50/50 is the universe way of screwing with you, because when the odds are equal, you loose.
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You mean the universe is a casino?
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I hate being a regular contributor to this thread, but Orianna if you hit 50% of your ults and cost us the game THAT IS NOT A GOOD STRIKE RATE. THANK YOU PLEASE DON'T PLAY CHAMPS WITH A HIGH SKILL CAP IF YOU HAVE NO SKILL. I DON'T PLAY ORI BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE SKILL NOR THE PING REQUIRED, AND YOU SHOULD BE DOING DO THE SAME THING.
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I remember why I stopped playing AD, it's because of people who don't know how to play supports. The worst part of it is that if the support does stupid stuff, you both die. And even if you survive, now the support gave the enemy AD a kill, and you can't catch up even if you play safe.
This Leona I was playing with did nothing but dive the entire laning phase, causing repeated deaths for herself or both of us. And even when it was obvious we were behind (because enemy Ashe had a BF when I was struggling to afford a couple Dorans), she still decided to towerdive a full health Taric when Noc was 6 and SS.
And of course, I get blamed for not winning lane, even though there was nothing I could do about it. What was I supposed to do? Even farming under tower meant Taric, Noc, and Kass just dove me and instagibbed me with Silence, Fear, Stun, and an Ashe arrow to top it off. I spent more than half the game not in control of my character, which was apparently my fault.
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On November 05 2012 19:51 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 19:40 pikagrue wrote:On November 05 2012 17:55 Thermia wrote:On November 03 2012 11:11 IMoperator wrote:
Why is it that other people always have better teammates than me? I don't understand how people don't believe in the "elo hell" thing, this game depends way too much on teammates not messing up. You can play perfectly, and still lose because one of the lanes feeds and it snowballs out of control. If you think you're playing perfectly, you're terribly terribly mistaken. On a similar note, if you're never the reason for your loss, and some random troll/terribad determines the loss for either side, you will (eventually) average a 55% winrate over the long run, and escape so called "ELO hell". Reasoning being that if you're not the problem, then there are 9 slots the so called terribad/troll can fit into. 4 of them are on your side, 5 are the enemies. 4/9 probability of you losing. (This assumes there's one troll/terribad per game, and the side they're on loses, which is pretty in line with the complaints) I can calculate probabilities of having a <50% winrate using this model given X games played if anyone wants that. If you played enough X-Com, you know that 50% chances will fail 100% of the time :p
And if you play aram from time to time, you know that 50% of your champion pool consist of 1 champion.
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I love this thread. It's like going to the baby section in the zoo 
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I hate laning against Jayce sooooo much.
5 minutes of lane advantage nullified with one accelerated shock blast
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to the jungler:
when your support actually times the opponent's wards, STOP WALKING THROUGH THEM
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you think you have bad teammates then my last game tops anything i had a rengar at 20 mins 2-15 with 0 yes 0 cs i owned a karthus mid he had 16 cs yet hit r with no teamfight and quadra my team think we lost 30-6 at 20 mins i was 3-0-1 just not even worth being upset was just sad.
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RIOT SERVERS FUCK YOU I WAS 3 GAMES AWAY.
3!!!
AND THEN YOU DONT LET ME CONNECT TO THE GAME WHAT IS THIS HORSESHIT
WASTING MY TIME AND MY ELO FOR NOTHING
I'm so sad. No gold for me.
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On November 06 2012 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
RIOT SERVERS FUCK YOU I WAS 3 GAMES AWAY.
3!!!
AND THEN YOU DONT LET ME CONNECT TO THE GAME WHAT IS THIS HORSESHIT
WASTING MY TIME AND MY ELO FOR NOTHING
I'm so sad. No gold for me.
Patch delayed! You still have time
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2767761
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teamscore 0/10 after 7 minutes... how is that even possible?
Wukong instantly dies to Darius eventhough i forced a flash from Darius with my gank
Botlane dies to the first gank eventhough they knew shyvana was nearby.
Mid dies.
I end the game 5/3 as Skarner, trying to save whatever i can save but all lanes lost harder than i ever thought possible.
Their excuse: "Shyvana was camping bot"... Yes, because you were a f****ing easy target.
Then i had 2 more of those premades and a game where after 20 minutes i was the only one with kills and it was 4/15. I was even up against a 1430 ELO Ezreal and won the lane handily eventhough my Blitz support was useless. Now i'm at 1133 ELO. If i drop below 1100, i think i'm going to kill myself earlier than expected...
And down to 1120 after going 6/1 as jungle skarner and total gamescore 10/25... THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A F***ING JUNGLER AND ALL LANES LOST IN <5 MINUTES FFS.
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Man, support Zyra is so broken. She can play like Janna and be defensive in which case you can never get kills on the enemy AD without a gank. Or you can play her aggressive and zone or force bad trades for your opponents. Come mid and late game she has so much team fight presence even without items 'cause of OP snare and OP ult not to mention free mini-wards.
Morello should never be able to design a champion again.
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I win like 10 games in a row as Eve.
I'm 1498 and in champ select.
What happens?
My team bans Eve.
Edit: Sure enough I lose when our jungle Shen goes 0/8.
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On November 06 2012 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
I win like 10 games in a row as Eve.
I'm 1498 and in champ select.
What happens?
My team bans Eve.
Edit: Sure enough I lose when our jungle Shen goes 0/8.
2x Edit: And now enemy doesn't ban rengar, picks Renekton into Ryze. Guess I'm finishing the season at 1498.
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I just had 'that' moment, where you get out of a sticky situation guns blazing and head held high only to die to something silly a few seconds later.
Was graves with my supportleona vs a corki/taric lane bot. We were pretty ahead at around lvl7/8ish, when a wild nidaleespear (their top) came over the trees near bot turret (blue side). A few seconds later we had their mid Ahri behind us aswell and we were trapped. Taric started to tanking the tower but a quick leona Q + my buckshot + 2 towerhits killed him, corki valked in and got killed by leona E + a few of my autos. Nidalee came in from behind with ahri and they got hammered by another buckshot + smokescreen for vision. Ahri flash Qd me for a final hit + ignite but I flashdodged her Q. The ignite ticked off and I was left with 3hp and 3 kills, 1 for leona. Started cheering on TS and started walking back to base when I thought oh well can just base, they are all dead anyway there is no pressure. Just as I was about to press B I stepped on a nidaleetrap that killed me.
Most anticlimactic cool moment I had so far
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