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On July 25 2012 02:41 little fancy wrote:
Your jungler may suck. Even your AP carry may suck.
But if your AD carry sucks the game is lost. Doesn't matter if you go 5/0 and have farmed 600 bonus damage on Nasus' Q and have 300/200 resistances. The game is simply over because you're lacking damage and can't tank a fed Vayne.
Unfortunately, every shit noob calls for AD carry now. Even if they almost never play it, they'd rather play AD than support which in their opinion is "a job for the stupid and lesser players" (original quote in 1400ish pregame chat. true story.).
Sometimes I really need to control my violent fantasies or I might have them come true for certain people some day.
imagine how hard my life is as support solo q.
at the end if they end with a good k/d, its like "my back, i carried so hard/ couldnt carry, team too heavy". if its bad, "support fuckin noob". no mention of the numerous times i saved his ass, got him fed, warded or zoned out the enemy adc. if there's an adc who is polite and good, i immediately add them. its like tagging the ear of an endangered animal to keep track of them.
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The worst thing in solo q is when someone picks a shit champ or a champ that is countered by what the other team picks, then says 'trust me'.
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On July 26 2012 08:02 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:41 little fancy wrote:
Your jungler may suck. Even your AP carry may suck.
But if your AD carry sucks the game is lost. Doesn't matter if you go 5/0 and have farmed 600 bonus damage on Nasus' Q and have 300/200 resistances. The game is simply over because you're lacking damage and can't tank a fed Vayne.
Unfortunately, every shit noob calls for AD carry now. Even if they almost never play it, they'd rather play AD than support which in their opinion is "a job for the stupid and lesser players" (original quote in 1400ish pregame chat. true story.).
Sometimes I really need to control my violent fantasies or I might have them come true for certain people some day. imagine how hard my life is as support solo q. at the end if they end with a good k/d, its like "my back, i carried so hard/ couldnt carry, team too heavy". if its bad, "support fuckin noob". no mention of the numerous times i saved his ass, got him fed, warded or zoned out the enemy adc. if there's an adc who is polite and good, i immediately add them. its like tagging the ear of an endangered animal to keep track of them.
when i legit carry a game as janna i always get recognition from my team :D
other supports don't have that luxury, but when a janna carries, you fuckin' notice lol
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On July 26 2012 08:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 08:02 ticklishmusic wrote:On July 25 2012 02:41 little fancy wrote:
Your jungler may suck. Even your AP carry may suck.
But if your AD carry sucks the game is lost. Doesn't matter if you go 5/0 and have farmed 600 bonus damage on Nasus' Q and have 300/200 resistances. The game is simply over because you're lacking damage and can't tank a fed Vayne.
Unfortunately, every shit noob calls for AD carry now. Even if they almost never play it, they'd rather play AD than support which in their opinion is "a job for the stupid and lesser players" (original quote in 1400ish pregame chat. true story.).
Sometimes I really need to control my violent fantasies or I might have them come true for certain people some day. imagine how hard my life is as support solo q. at the end if they end with a good k/d, its like "my back, i carried so hard/ couldnt carry, team too heavy". if its bad, "support fuckin noob". no mention of the numerous times i saved his ass, got him fed, warded or zoned out the enemy adc. if there's an adc who is polite and good, i immediately add them. its like tagging the ear of an endangered animal to keep track of them. when i legit carry a game as janna i always get recognition from my team :D other supports don't have that luxury, but when a janna carries, you fuckin' notice lol
King cow always gets recognition as long as he doesn't save a near dead person with a headbutt.
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If you do that once, you will get flamed for the rest of the game, no matter how many kills you produced, or how hard you saved your ad.
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On July 26 2012 08:13 schmutttt wrote:
The worst thing in solo q is when someone picks a shit champ or a champ that is countered by what the other team picks, then says 'trust me'.
why? i do that all the time.
team comps and counters mean shit lol majority of people don't play around it properly anyways it all comes down to individual skill...
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On July 26 2012 10:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 08:13 schmutttt wrote:
The worst thing in solo q is when someone picks a shit champ or a champ that is countered by what the other team picks, then says 'trust me'. why? i do that all the time. team comps and counters mean shit lol majority of people don't play around it properly anyways it all comes down to individual skill...
Maybe above 1500 it works, but it sure doesn't below from my experience.
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there's no magical elo where people stop having bad games, and there's also no magical elo where games don't come down to individual skill.
you're not playing competitive 5v5 draft tournament game, just let people whatever they want lol...besides people get so hung up on counter-picks or w\e that they forget they still have to play well, which is above all the most important thing...champ select has like zero bearing on solo q tbh lol.
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On July 26 2012 10:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
there's no magical elo where people stop having bad games, and there's also no magical elo where games don't come down to individual skill.
you're not playing competitive 5v5 draft tournament game, just let people whatever they want lol...besides people get so hung up on counter-picks or w\e that they forget they still have to play well, which is above all the most important thing...champ select has like zero bearing on solo q tbh lol.
i think the champs chosen has no bearing, that i agree with
but the time period in which those champs are chosen is like 80% of the game tbh. if you have people going at it in champ select, your team has 0 chance. one of the things that makes people crazy is an ally picking an "underpowered" champ. so while you may be the best karma in the world, picking her is more likely to bring out the rage/troll in your teammates, which is going to artificially handicap you a lot
i'm with you, i pick w/e i want into w/e the enemy has, but there are lots of games where i'm like "i probably would have just won if i picked malphite instead of shyvana top, just so my team wouldn't have gone twitch/tristana/varus tri-lane bot"
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Don't listen to Sheep and his radical ideas. He's QQing right now too.
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so I play lol very rarely but that's not zero because I have some friends who wont switch over to dota.
my queues take a really long time because it takes 3 or 4 games to actually get into game.
every game some kid 3 or 4 slots down calls AD carry before bans. and then, I piss them off when I pick an AD carry (it's the easiest role to play, so of course Im going to play it when Im heavily out of practice) and they leave. I mean, since when do people feel so entitled to play that role? they aren't even asking, they're just saying it as if it's their choice when they are several picks down.
my friend told me you dont lose elo if you queue dodge now, is that true? if so, that's some stupid **** right there. I had a lot of losses where I couldn't play the role I wanted and some idiot took it. and still, I managed to rise well into gold even with a busy school schedule by winning the games where things worked out better for me.
now, these idiots just go and ruin someone's game. I actually played against one of these tools, and it wasn't pretty for him. I mean, you would think people could win a graves vs trist lane, lol.
my QQ tl;dr is this: the highest elo in the game choses their role, period. they chose the bans, they chose what they want to do. kids need to fall in line and try to win instead of wasting my time.
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I have never had that happen. People sometimes call roles, mostly they ask for them. If someone higher then them then says "no, i do that", they are rarely angry. Maybe they say something like "i hope you are good", or so. If someone higher just picks it, they often complain, but usually they accept it once i tell them that they are delusional if they expect to get both mid and top as last and second to last pick. Only very rarely does someone leave over it.
Maybe it is because i am nice to people and try to talk reasonably to them, even if they are obviously stupid. People react way better if they are not called stupid idiots in caps.
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Nothing is worse than jungling in a game where all 3 lanes push, but not to tower, just a perfect amount so the opposing team can freeze right outside tower range.
Its basically rolling the dice trying to countergank.
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I usually give up the role if someone asks me for it after I select.
Otherwise, I just stay silent and read chat.
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I was ganked 3 times in 10 minutes, and died all 3 times. Since I was Graves, my team was basically fucked. Sigh... I wish I wasn't bad.
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On July 26 2012 17:32 plasmidghost wrote:
I was ganked 3 times in 10 minutes, and died all 3 times. Since I was Graves, my team was basically fucked. Sigh... I wish I wasn't bad.
Blame your support for not warding properly or not pinging the minimap to warn you :p
As AD carry you have to focus so much on last hitting, harassing and positioning that it's easy to get carried away by that and miss stuff on the minimap which is why i love good supports that ward well and watch the minimap for me to warn if ganks come in.
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On July 26 2012 11:35 cLutZ wrote:
Nothing is worse than jungling in a game where all 3 lanes push, but not to tower, just a perfect amount so the opposing team can freeze right outside tower range.
Its basically rolling the dice trying to countergank.
AND THEN THEY BITCH AT YOU FOR NOT GANKING AND FEED BECAUSE THEY KEEP FUCKING TYPING SHIT
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I hate those people who have like 6/6/0 stats after 15 min and stay on their lane all the time while their enemy who has the same stats constantly ganks and carry the game . Additionally, they always say that they dont feed because they are feeded aswell and even though the rest of the team died only one or two time they still think they are better players while the other lane are getting tower dived because of the feeded enemy...Especially the ap mid heros are so strong after many early kills combined with cc
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On July 26 2012 17:43 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 17:32 plasmidghost wrote:
I was ganked 3 times in 10 minutes, and died all 3 times. Since I was Graves, my team was basically fucked. Sigh... I wish I wasn't bad. Blame your support for not warding properly or not pinging the minimap to warn you :p As AD carry you have to focus so much on last hitting, harassing and positioning that it's easy to get carried away by that and miss stuff on the minimap which is why i love good supports that ward well and watch the minimap for me to warn if ganks come in.
My support actually never warded at all, so that certainly played a part in it. Even though I tried my best, I just can't escape from a Shyvana unless I have at least a 3 second head-start.
I would do literally anything to be just half as good as Doublelift is with Graves.
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If your support does not ward, and you die to ganks, it's usually his fault. (Except that small window after you were pushed to turret where there was not yet an oppurtunity to move out and ward. Shyvana should only rarely be able to gank botlane without diving if she does not have an oracles. It is basically the supports job to enable you to farm, and only secondarily do anything else like denying enemy farm or producing kills. If a support never wards, he is absolutely at fault when you die to ganks.
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