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dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
June 28 2012 11:39 GMT
#4281
I dropped from 1300 to 1073, so sad. :-(
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 28 2012 11:54 GMT
#4282
dont worry youll always reach those exact elo numbers where that you cant overcome for quite awhile and and drop elo again.

After winning my first 6 ranked games in a row I thught ezpz np next month 2k elo but then the infamous elohell ( personally I dont believe in elo hell) grabbed me and i fell down to 1075 ish and was stuck for quite awhile but after improving my game and attitude I managed to get to 1530 and although I made a terrbiel decision playing drunk after a party losing 10 games in a row thus losing ~150elo in one night I managed to climb back to 1550 relatively quickly.

Like many others Im quite convinced that after playing a certain number of games youll eventually get to your true elo so just keep improving your game.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#4283
On June 28 2012 20:03 Rixxe wrote:
Whats the deal with people blaming you, when they clearly cannot play?

I pick Karma mid (Fine, underplayed champion. So what?) I get like 40 CS more farm than the Annie im facing, are something like 2/2/0 (which isn't bad considering i got NO jungler help at all even when annie is basically at my tower on half hp).
Anyway, team fights start, get some pretty decent results, keeps going back and forth and eventually we lose the game..

End game chat: "OMG Karma so bad, so troll".
So finishing the game with more CS than everyone with 8/4 is trolling? Our ashe didnt even have IE at 35 minutes.. WTF.


If you pick something unconventional and something goes poorly for your team, all blame automatically falls on you regardless of what actually happened. It happened every game to me before I made people realize Viktor is good, and it happens most games I play Heimer.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
June 28 2012 13:26 GMT
#4284
On June 28 2012 22:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 20:03 Rixxe wrote:
Whats the deal with people blaming you, when they clearly cannot play?

I pick Karma mid (Fine, underplayed champion. So what?) I get like 40 CS more farm than the Annie im facing, are something like 2/2/0 (which isn't bad considering i got NO jungler help at all even when annie is basically at my tower on half hp).
Anyway, team fights start, get some pretty decent results, keeps going back and forth and eventually we lose the game..

End game chat: "OMG Karma so bad, so troll".
So finishing the game with more CS than everyone with 8/4 is trolling? Our ashe didnt even have IE at 35 minutes.. WTF.


If you pick something unconventional and something goes poorly for your team, all blame automatically falls on you regardless of what actually happened. It happened every game to me before I made people realize Viktor is good, and it happens most games I play Heimer.


100% Agree.

But in some cases it doesn't even have to be 'playing an underplayed champion' to get blamed for everything that goes wrong over the course of a game.

Small things can sometimes be the 'reason' why you lose your team the game, too:

Didn't gank a completely warded bot lane? "your fault vayne gets 10 kills you dont gank shit fucknoob''
Corki giving away FB at lvl 1 because he goes all in vs Taric + Graves? "omg noob soraka your fault i die heal me fucker"
Anywhere on the map someone dies to lvl 2 Alistar gank? "omg Ali gg our jungler never gank 9x report *yourname*"

Anything that goes wrong in the first few minutes of a game can be the reason why the whole game was lost. Prepare to be reported!
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
June 28 2012 13:46 GMT
#4285
This isn't world of warcraft, I am not a holy paladin, just because you got caught and 100-0'd immediately does not mean I could just heal you to full with Ali E.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11549 Posts
June 28 2012 16:39 GMT
#4286
It's quite simple. People are convinced that they are good at this game, and of course better then all the elo hell scrubs in their team. Thus, if they lose, or something goes wrong, it can't be their fault. Thus, it is someone elses fault. Now, if they are in a sololane, usually the only person they can blame for their failure is the jungler. If someone from another lane is involved, you can of course also blame the person that one lanes against, and if it is botlane, you can blame your lanepartner. Still, usually this leads to blaming the jungler, because he can be blamed for anything that happens anywhere on the map.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 28 2012 16:46 GMT
#4287
On June 29 2012 01:39 Simberto wrote:
It's quite simple. People are convinced that they are good at this game, and of course better then all the elo hell scrubs in their team. Thus, if they lose, or something goes wrong, it can't be their fault. Thus, it is someone elses fault. Now, if they are in a sololane, usually the only person they can blame for their failure is the jungler. If someone from another lane is involved, you can of course also blame the person that one lanes against, and if it is botlane, you can blame your lanepartner. Still, usually this leads to blaming the jungler, because he can be blamed for anything that happens anywhere on the map.


The 2 rules of LoL blame:
#1 It's always the junglers fault
#2 If you are the jungler yourself, all the lanes are idiots that are playing horribly bad.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 29 2012 00:44 GMT
#4288
On June 29 2012 01:46 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 01:39 Simberto wrote:
It's quite simple. People are convinced that they are good at this game, and of course better then all the elo hell scrubs in their team. Thus, if they lose, or something goes wrong, it can't be their fault. Thus, it is someone elses fault. Now, if they are in a sololane, usually the only person they can blame for their failure is the jungler. If someone from another lane is involved, you can of course also blame the person that one lanes against, and if it is botlane, you can blame your lanepartner. Still, usually this leads to blaming the jungler, because he can be blamed for anything that happens anywhere on the map.


The 2 rules of LoL blame:
#1 It's always the junglers fault
#2 If you are the jungler yourself, all the lanes are idiots that are playing horribly bad.

Most of the ragers actually don't jungle. They don't get enough farm or burst there to last hit champions. You'll notice mid is most sought after, followed by top since it's the other solo lane, and AD bot since it's still solo farm and some AD's have good kill potential. This followed by jungler, and then support. Sometimes you don't get a support. Other times you get two tops so the other top has to go jungle.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
June 29 2012 01:26 GMT
#4289
So you did good in lane? congrats! you get caught out of position over and over again and get instantly blown up, so we lose teamfight after teamfight? "this team" "can't carry"... of course you can't. you are bad at this game holy shit.

also i should start banning blitzcrank. it's one of those random champs (at my elo) that are totally hit or miss. They either grab amumu into your team and lose you the game on their own or one of the carries get grabbed and instantly win.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11549 Posts
June 29 2012 01:32 GMT
#4290
And they always get the good grabs when they are on the enemy team, and the bad grabs or no grabs in the whole game when they are in your team.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 29 2012 02:18 GMT
#4291
so many bads tonight
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 03:22:45
June 29 2012 02:47 GMT
#4292
Well, Darius and Nautilus roam and kill our jungle Shy. Shen never ults before it's way to late, usually costing us 2-3 deaths in teamfights in what should be easy aces. Ryze never follows Fizz or says MIA in time. Ashe plays like a complete pansy after whining about there not being enough ward coverage because she stayed for like 3-4 too many creeps in mid when we knew they were at dragon and the way from dragon to Ashe had ward coverage that spotted their exact movement. She was also warned to back off two-three times. Let's each minion wave come to our tower while standing like a mile away when she has a support Janna and her entire team sitting there as a barrier.

Soooo stupid.

Also forgot, support Janna flipped out at Ashe after hearing such a dumb argument and spent the rest of the game yelling at Ashe. Been a loooong time since I've chewed someone out in a game. I really don't care that much anymore but then you have the bloody gall to get caught in the dumbest of situations when you had like 5 outs and your support has probably put down 40-50 wards in the game... nggh.
Bevan
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada90 Posts
June 29 2012 03:11 GMT
#4293
Well, that's a new complaint. "You used too many abilities. I didn't want you to kill their Yorick, just push him out of lane."

3-1-18 jungle Alistar game. Apparently I ganked too effectively, however that works.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
June 29 2012 15:57 GMT
#4294
On June 29 2012 09:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 01:46 Morfildur wrote:
On June 29 2012 01:39 Simberto wrote:
It's quite simple. People are convinced that they are good at this game, and of course better then all the elo hell scrubs in their team. Thus, if they lose, or something goes wrong, it can't be their fault. Thus, it is someone elses fault. Now, if they are in a sololane, usually the only person they can blame for their failure is the jungler. If someone from another lane is involved, you can of course also blame the person that one lanes against, and if it is botlane, you can blame your lanepartner. Still, usually this leads to blaming the jungler, because he can be blamed for anything that happens anywhere on the map.


The 2 rules of LoL blame:
#1 It's always the junglers fault
#2 If you are the jungler yourself, all the lanes are idiots that are playing horribly bad.

Most of the ragers actually don't jungle. They don't get enough farm or burst there to last hit champions. You'll notice mid is most sought after, followed by top since it's the other solo lane, and AD bot since it's still solo farm and some AD's have good kill potential. This followed by jungler, and then support. Sometimes you don't get a support. Other times you get two tops so the other top has to go jungle.

I've been jungling quite a bit lately and it's really annoying when people don't understand that you can't get from top to bottom in 15 seconds. My standard line is "Sorry I don't have teleport" when people start spamming absurd pings and then raging when I'm on the other side of the map.
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
June 29 2012 16:02 GMT
#4295
On June 30 2012 00:57 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 09:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 29 2012 01:46 Morfildur wrote:
On June 29 2012 01:39 Simberto wrote:
It's quite simple. People are convinced that they are good at this game, and of course better then all the elo hell scrubs in their team. Thus, if they lose, or something goes wrong, it can't be their fault. Thus, it is someone elses fault. Now, if they are in a sololane, usually the only person they can blame for their failure is the jungler. If someone from another lane is involved, you can of course also blame the person that one lanes against, and if it is botlane, you can blame your lanepartner. Still, usually this leads to blaming the jungler, because he can be blamed for anything that happens anywhere on the map.


The 2 rules of LoL blame:
#1 It's always the junglers fault
#2 If you are the jungler yourself, all the lanes are idiots that are playing horribly bad.

Most of the ragers actually don't jungle. They don't get enough farm or burst there to last hit champions. You'll notice mid is most sought after, followed by top since it's the other solo lane, and AD bot since it's still solo farm and some AD's have good kill potential. This followed by jungler, and then support. Sometimes you don't get a support. Other times you get two tops so the other top has to go jungle.

I've been jungling quite a bit lately and it's really annoying when people don't understand that you can't get from top to bottom in 15 seconds. My standard line is "Sorry I don't have teleport" when people start spamming absurd pings and then raging when I'm on the other side of the map.


I'm still wondering if I really don't like junge or if my mind just tells me I don't like jungle so I don't have to deal with that shit. Or I really don't like jungle but not because of the gameplay but the constant blame.
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
June 29 2012 16:11 GMT
#4296
First time ever i almost got mad in this game, i mean IRL mad... 3 guys wishing me cancer and hoping to uninstall, in a game where they are the ones fucking up at least as much as i did... I know i played some parts of that game so wrong, but still... Guys giving up free kills left and right, me trying to clean up the mess as Noct, and i just kept getting deeper and deeper into shit what they caused. When your top malphite stays in lane after a gank that forces a flash and a B, and has no mana and no HP, and the enemy top lane comes back and destroys Malph, who's fault is it? Mine of course... Fuck that game was so awful...Listening to all 3 lanes losing by themselves, and blaming me on it, made me wanna hit my head through the wall... Prolly the last game of my summer too, because of vacation stuff, so at least it ends on a good game. :|

Fuck, i better go buy some booze, Maybe calms my nerves a bit. :p
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
June 29 2012 17:02 GMT
#4297
So I'm draven bot and at lvl 1 my q does 100dmg. My support is blitz vs kog and soraka. Should be kill Lane of the century right? Wrong!!! Blitz does 0 grabs! Doesn't even do it just pushes the lane constantly! ARGH WE COULD OF GOTTEN SO MANY KILLS!!!
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 17:11:23
June 29 2012 17:11 GMT
#4298
The other day I played one of the most retarded games ever, due to enemy team comp:

mundo, going full tank
volibear, going full tank
alistar, mostly tank
vladimir, mostly tank
fizz with RoA, banshees, guardian angel

what.

This was normal blind, so when I saw the enemy team, I knew I was screwed since I picked leblanc.

76:00 minute lost game.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
June 29 2012 17:23 GMT
#4299
The solo-queue mindset: I refuse to play support because every one is bad except me and I have to carry myself out of Elo Hell.

Fuck this.
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Ejohrik
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden219 Posts
June 29 2012 23:32 GMT
#4300
I just reached lvl. 30 on EU Nordic&East, and I am getting very tired of the horrible attitude people have. In 3/4 games my team gets at least one person who actually verbaly abuses his team members more than he plays. It's really killing the joy of the game for me, when I get called a feeder and noob 10+ times because my stats are something like 4/6, and I get the blame for not helping when someone rushes in 1v4 and dies.
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