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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 02 2012 13:02 GMT
#4321
Almost lost 100 elo this weekend. Gonna be a long climb back up...
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 02 2012 14:55 GMT
#4322
On July 02 2012 15:45 eagle wrote:
no mr vs karthus your gonna have a bad times


I could 3 hit him and vamp all my health back pretty much instantly, it wasn't a problem as long as he wasn't on top of me. In fact, that isn't even what killed me, it was forcing me to burn my summoners on someone who was already pretty much dead because he had already been caught with a pulverize.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 17:55:15
July 02 2012 15:54 GMT
#4323
Teamfight starts, kill Annie because she's super out of position, kill Cait because she's super fed from terrible bot lane, all of a sudden Olaf dies chasing their Nunu into their jungle.

"GG teemo no focus."
"Uh, I killed both carries?"
"Nunu at low health, no focus, GG"

Sorry Olaf, I didn't know Teemo could press R and run through the entire enemy team inhindered.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 02 2012 16:52 GMT
#4324
That whole focus thing really grinds my gears. Some people repeat "Don't focus the tanks" like it's part of their religion. "I have accepted Jesus as my lord and savior and I will not focus the tanks". You simply can't compromise something as complex as a teamfight with all it's variables (gold difference, champs, item builds, positioniong, cooldowns) into one simple sentiment.

People seem to have no understanding to what a tank and what focus actually is. That is of course, because tank is a pretty flawed concept to apply to League of legends. It would be a bad idea to unload all of your teams damage and cc on that 5 tank item alistar that has just ulted and blown his 2 ccs. But apparently "tanks" includes that only moderately tanky Olaf that runs straight for the AD carry and just kills him every teamfight. How dare anyone attack him.

Having "bad focus" in a teamfight seems like a puny excuse too. Do people who complain about that then want everyone to unload everything on their most dangerous target? When they have a decent frontline, or just Janna, you won't get to the enemy ad carry as Udyr. Some people I play with always complain about "bad focus" after a lost teamfight, but they seem to have no idea what they actually mean with that. It's just a bad excuse if you don't know what actually went wrong.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 17:11:44
July 02 2012 17:06 GMT
#4325
"I've been lagging like crap all day, can't even move or use abilities"

THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU QUEUE FOR RANKED


Also, Janna ult that knocks Hec and Ali away and over walls, and Akali in range of all carries should be an easy kill and won teamfight. Instead, Ashe and Anivia derp and run into the enemy team to try and get a kill on some tanky prick while Akali gets a Quadra.

I don't think I could have set it up better, but what the fuck.
It's your boy Guzma!
SoraLimit
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada747 Posts
July 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#4326
Played a couple of games today, Chair broke in the middle of a match. QQ (Not really problematic, but I liked that chair)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 20:48:41
July 02 2012 20:48 GMT
#4327
On July 02 2012 05:46 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 05:16 Volband wrote:
Happened yesterday:
I'm support leona, our ad is ashe, our top is renekton. By the 13th minute my stat is 0-1-6, ashe has 4 kills and our jungler obtained the other two. Dominated bot, somewhat fed carry, looking good right? Oh wait, let me tell you about our renekton who topped againts Lee Sin. Oh yes, you guessed right, lee Sin is legendary and has 87 cs, while our renekton is 0-6, he has 21 cs and his only item is a mercury shoe. He tells me not to rage cause its just a game.

I've lost more than 100 elo because of human (?) beings like him, or trolls, or afkers, or rage afkers. And I can't catch a break, it's like I'm not allowed to play bad EVER. There's no mercy for me then.

Oh, i just joined another ranked:

iFiVa (last pick of course): me NO SOLO TOP
iFiVa: me jungle
[some guy takes jungle]
iFiVa: 0ibgj]r
iFiVa: hl]qebhr
iFiVa: NOOBS
iFiVa: GO DIE IN HELL

Seriously. Someone help me uninstall this game.


If you are a rager, i really would like to help you uninstall this game... I have NEVER raged at anyone while playing this game... Why would i do that? If they are playing bad it wont help that i rage, and if they are trolling, rage is the response they are looking for... So what does it help? Everyone (even you...) will have bad games, where you feed, thats just how this game works with all the snowballing and stuff.

Please, uninstall, or learn to try and help other players when they are playing bad. Tell them what they are doing wrong, and how they can improve, that at least accomplishes something, telling them they are noobs, and that you want them to go to hell accomplishes nothing... Only makes it more sure that your team will lose...


I got the strong impression that it was not he who is "iFiVa" - he wants to uninstall to AVOID people like this.

I had a game where I lost my lane vs Phreak's Renekton. QQ. (All our other lanes lost, to Corki and Treeskimo and whoever else, but I feel less of a LoL player now.)
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
July 02 2012 21:56 GMT
#4328
I hate supporting a random player when the team makes dem plays and Graves is so full of himself because he gets ALL the doubles and triples and starts trashtalking about how godlike he is and that the enemy should surrender at 20 minutes and the like.

He has 60 CS at 18 minutes, rushes PD and can only keep up in gold because we just snowball out of control (with the help of jungle and mid ganks) while making up for his superbad positioning by cc'ing and peeling like bosses. He really only needs to AA until everything dies.

To top it all off, when they surrender he's "gg easy report team for being noob" - REAL!
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
July 02 2012 22:33 GMT
#4329
[image loading]


Guess I need to post this here. I realize my score isnt good. But I mean wow.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 02 2012 23:34 GMT
#4330
Thats the first time I've been angry enough at someone in solo-queue to straight up troll. TF started getting insta-nuked by Veigar and decided he needed to blame his jungler (me on ali). Spend the rest of the game listening to how noob ali has no cs (usually its never ganked but I spent all game ganking and killing lanes) and deals no damage.

When it became clear we lost sold all my shit for IE and Zeal. God I hate jungling, hadn't done it in ages and forgot the standard mantra of blame the jungler.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 03 2012 05:15 GMT
#4331
Fuck it. I'm going back to SC2. At least there, if I lose, it's because I was outplayed, not because 4 people supposedly on my own team are complete fucktards and failures.
It's your boy Guzma!
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 03 2012 13:49 GMT
#4332
Fuck I hate Malphite. So retardedly strong.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 14:37:59
July 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#4333
I have been duoing with my friend in normals. He has been learning Lee Sin and he was pretty bad at first, but lately he has been quite good. However, every game it feels like we're matched with teammates that keep getting progressively worse.

Last match we had a Maokai support that was stealing a large portion of my farm as Karthus, and he built RoA and Warmogs. This was a minor issue, as we still could have won in spite of that. The real problem was the Nasus who had ignite as one of his summoners. He opened a doran's blade against Mordekaiser and got beserker's greaves second, and then fed like crazy. After he fed like 5 kills, he builds a philospher's stone and heart of gold, so he can "farm more" when the dude can't even farm at his second turret without being under such severe pressure he's about to die. Also insists on building Triforce before any magic resistance. Then when he finally starts building resists it's a Maw instead of a Force of Nature or an Aegis or a negatron and 2-3 null magic's.

Of coure his itemization hardly mattered, because he was in one 5v5 teamfight the entire game where he basically ran like a pansy from Lee Sin and Vayne while doing no damage because he had no armor items 45 minutes into the game. Other derps: died 2v5 with Maokai like 2-3 times when he was near the second enemy turret up top and the enemy team was mid. Was near dragon with the rest of us when he inexplicably went to farm a minion wave when he was literally right on top of us 2 seconds before the teamfight broke out- should have been an easy win, instead we lost 4 for 1 and Nasus dies 1v4 afterward (although he gets a kill)... when he should have just recalled. Then he dies trying to solo dragon about 40 minutes in... gets caught and dies.

Short version: Nasus goes beserker's greaves, doran's blade into GP/10 after getting stomped by Morde, wraps up with Triforce/Maw, never shows up to teamfights.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
July 03 2012 15:18 GMT
#4334
On July 03 2012 06:56 little fancy wrote:
I hate supporting a random player when the team makes dem plays and Graves is so full of himself because he gets ALL the doubles and triples and starts trashtalking about how godlike he is and that the enemy should surrender at 20 minutes and the like.

He has 60 CS at 18 minutes, rushes PD and can only keep up in gold because we just snowball out of control (with the help of jungle and mid ganks) while making up for his superbad positioning by cc'ing and peeling like bosses. He really only needs to AA until everything dies.

To top it all off, when they surrender he's "gg easy report team for being noob" - REAL!

Yea that also annoys me. Like our lane is up 5-0 but our carry is down 30 cs at 20 minutes. How is that even possible? Then he starts talking mad shit. So dumb.
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Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
July 03 2012 16:21 GMT
#4335
Heh, for over 40 minutes we got aced in every TF, but the enemy was dumb, and they refused to finish, we get once ace, get both of their nexus turrets, and their nexus to 200hp before they ace us. For the entire time we were hitting the nexus, our Graves was after their support. Like he had time for 20 autos, and 2 would of been enough, but no. Getting that one kill more important.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
July 03 2012 16:39 GMT
#4336
On July 04 2012 00:18 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 06:56 little fancy wrote:
I hate supporting a random player when the team makes dem plays and Graves is so full of himself because he gets ALL the doubles and triples and starts trashtalking about how godlike he is and that the enemy should surrender at 20 minutes and the like.

He has 60 CS at 18 minutes, rushes PD and can only keep up in gold because we just snowball out of control (with the help of jungle and mid ganks) while making up for his superbad positioning by cc'ing and peeling like bosses. He really only needs to AA until everything dies.

To top it all off, when they surrender he's "gg easy report team for being noob" - REAL!

Yea that also annoys me. Like our lane is up 5-0 but our carry is down 30 cs at 20 minutes. How is that even possible? Then he starts talking mad shit. So dumb.

As someone who mainly plays support in SoloQ, this is probably one of the most frustrating things in the world.

I'll either give my carry mad sustain, win him every trade, or zone the enemy really hard and they do one of two things:

1. Miss a ton of CS and still fall behind
2. Push all the way to their turret with auto attacks and then leave me with no way to zone them.

I played as Leona the other day, with a random Ashe who obviously has no idea what she's doing. Auto-attacking every wave to death, somehow missing at least 80% of the actual last hits. Pushes to tower and gets hooked by the enemy Blitzcrank like 9 times. "GG SURRENDER AT 20 NOOB LEONA DOESNT KNOW HOW TO SUPPORT"
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JeanBob
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada295 Posts
July 03 2012 17:31 GMT
#4337
What's the problem with mid?
I play almost all roles, so most of the time I just take what's left, which is basically almost always support.
But sometimes I feel like playing specific roles and now I feel like playing mid and I've been trying to mid in normal draft picks since yesterday for like 10 games straight and can,t get mid because either someone calls it before me and I'm too nice to steal the role, or I call it first, but I'm lower than someone else who called and he takes it anyway.
How the fuck can you play mid in this game?
"Teach the ones below you something you have learnt and learn from the ones above you." -Sonata Arctica
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 03 2012 17:34 GMT
#4338
"I got ganked"

No, no you fucking didn't. You were alone, in the enemy jungle, while all of them were missing, just walking around like an idiot. Then when 4 people are in their own jungle, which isn't warded at all, you don't use flash or anything, you just stand and try to fight.

You're fucking stupid, and you should feel bad.
It's your boy Guzma!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11405 Posts
July 03 2012 17:41 GMT
#4339
On July 04 2012 02:31 JeanBob wrote:
What's the problem with mid?
I play almost all roles, so most of the time I just take what's left, which is basically almost always support.
But sometimes I feel like playing specific roles and now I feel like playing mid and I've been trying to mid in normal draft picks since yesterday for like 10 games straight and can,t get mid because either someone calls it before me and I'm too nice to steal the role, or I call it first, but I'm lower than someone else who called and he takes it anyway.
How the fuck can you play mid in this game?


Ignore what people call, and play what you want when you are a higher pick then them. If you are nice, you are support. And while being support is nice, if you ever want to play something else, you won't get it when you give everyone what they want, because out of 10 people, 5 want top, 3 want mid, and 1 want ad carry or jungler. In my opinion, it is completely irrelevant what people "call" in draft pick. If they are nice, and ASK for a role, then that is a different story. But the random dude calling "mid" instantly is not someone i really care enough about to put my wishes back.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 17:54:50
July 03 2012 17:52 GMT
#4340
On July 04 2012 02:31 JeanBob wrote:
What's the problem with mid?
I play almost all roles, so most of the time I just take what's left, which is basically almost always support.
But sometimes I feel like playing specific roles and now I feel like playing mid and I've been trying to mid in normal draft picks since yesterday for like 10 games straight and can,t get mid because either someone calls it before me and I'm too nice to steal the role, or I call it first, but I'm lower than someone else who called and he takes it anyway.
How the fuck can you play mid in this game?

For some reason people love playing solo lanes. I guess they want to feel like there's no one to "drag them down" since they're progamers. I used to play top but top and mid get autolocked / called every time I play so I just started jungling and supporting.

The problem with ignoring what people call is that they're typically irrational babies and will throw a fit, causing you to suffer a shitty game for 20 minutes.
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